Your typing of forum members

[Alive]

@Alive , what about doing a video questionnaire ?

How about no

[UnPocoLoco]

How about no

Even though you said before that you're open to the idea, it's completely an expected response from someone who has no evidence that he's a logical type except that he doesn't care about people.

[Alive]

Oh I care about some people. I just don't have the motivation to talk about trivialities of my life. The whole concept of sitting alone in a room talking about myself seems bizarre to me. I was mostly convinced that only ethical types do that sort of stuff

[nifl]

@Alive , what about doing a video questionnaire ?

there is one of him interviewing AWellArmedCat in a video typing thread of his
he's quite good at it, asks good questions

[pasleine]

@pasleine - IEI

i would say the 1 thing about you typing IEI is that i dont see exactly why
do you have a good example of EII that i could perhaps compare myself to?
after all IEI and EII have the same strength in functions, just different preferences

[Alive]

i would say the 1 thing about you typing IEI is that i dont see exactly why
do you have a good example of EII that i could perhaps compare myself to?
after all IEI and EII have the same strength in functions, just different preferences

sadly I don't have that many EII examples. I think it's one of the types that's least likely to become a public figure. I think Mr.Rogers is an EII with a dominant subtype, and Eric Rosen an EII with a normalizing subtype. Eric Rosen is a chess player that uploads videos on youtube but doesn't really share anything about his life. I have a couple of german examples but their response to interviews is pretty much I have nothing to say with a friendly smile

[Lady Lunacy]

i would say the 1 thing about you typing IEI is that i dont see exactly why
do you have a good example of EII that i could perhaps compare myself to?
after all IEI and EII have the same strength in functions, just different preferences

Hi, welcome to the forum. I see you've already met the forum meme. Since you're new here, I'm just going to inform you that he types literally everybody on the forum as IEI. He's like those bad contestants on shows like X Factor and Britain's Got Talent that show up to their first audition, brag about how well they sing/perform, then humiliate themselves. Except, when everyone else tells them they're not very good at what they're doing, they just deny it and say everybody else is too stupid to see their super awesome special talent. The real reason he doesn't know of EIIs is because he just types all of them as IEI, not because there aren't many EII public figures. I might sound like I'm being a dick, but that is only because he treats people that disagree (which is literally everyone) like shit. You'd learn all of this on your own without my help eventually, but I figured I'd spare you from wasting any of your time on asking him for resources or input.

[Alive]

How is pasleine new when he has joined 2021? I mostly just research stuff and voice my opinion in a very direct and for some people harsh way. Some people don't like that, but they usually self-type as sensing types so pasleine should be good

[pasleine]

i'm not sure, i don't tend to evaluate people based on objective qualities like that so i kind of doubt thats true, true that i joined a yr ago but to be fair i kind of forgot i signed up until i started posting again. so while i might have some knowledge of socionics, i don't have near enough information to make qualified assessments. so i am more or less "new" in the real sense
people here seem to have subtly different opinions on everything here. i do think the way you assess things has to do with your type
& i don't think i'll be recognized as my own self, Alive, & i dont have the drive to be, so i can imagine myself in that invisible quadra. its just that right now i am trying to find my people and understand everything, since lately i haven't found myself good at doing so. i don't value Fe though

[Beautiful sky]

Sky is not EIE. Rather than focusing on her stubborn manner of interacting with certain people, I suggest considering instead her lack of persuasiveness—no offense, Sky. She doesn’t tailor her message to her audience. She persistently says the same things pretty much the same way and has been doing so for years, regardless of the feedback received. Any change in how she communicates is slow, incremental, and apparently related to her internal processes and not to external demands. She doesn’t step back for a larger picture, instead picking at granular details.

This is actually incredibly similar to how Sol communicates, by the way. Both of them think they have the right system, with very little give-and-take. They just don’t have the same system, so they are at odds here.

They are also almost never entertaining.

It’s an Fe desert.

I have to use this

[nifl]

it is possible that @Elmira is logical, as she self-reports behaviour not so likely for an ethical type (rarely sincerely laughs, smile is as if she is fighting it, does not feel compelled to influence the mood of an interaction). has a more formal, colder, less personable style of communication. somewhat more reminiscent of mine, Miss Messy's and Clarke's than the usual ethicist here.


with a typing thread + video she would get more and more qualified opinions - if her type is close to ESI, LSI for example, then this might not be an attractive prospect for her, because abundance of data for a more objective evaluation (Te) and outside perceptions of her personality and motivations (Ne) have less interest for this type

[UnPocoLoco]

@seeking it

If you're sure of being Beta ST and just stuck between LSI-Se and SLE-Ti , find the function you use Fi or Ne

SLE-Ti use Ne very much , LSI-Se suppresses Ne's information and strongly reject it

LSI-Se uses Fi very much, SLE-Ti suppresses Fi's information and strongly reject it

[nifl]

@seeking it

If you're sure of being Beta ST and just stuck between LSI-Se and SLE-Ti , find the function you use Fi or Ne

SLE-Ti use Ne very much , LSI-Se suppresses Ne's information and strongly reject it

LSI-Se uses Fi very much, SLE-Ti suppresses Fi's information and strongly reject it

seeking it is most likely ethical

suppression and rejection of information relating to both superego functions is not unusual, not just one. using a superego function ''very much'' is highly unlikely. a SLE who uses Ne very much, for example, is most probably an ILE

[UnPocoLoco]

seeking it is most likely ethical

I said " if "
final verdict is hers , she knows best what she really is

suppression and rejection of information relating to both superego functions is not unusual, not just one. using a superego function ''very much'' is highly unlikely. a SLE who uses Ne very much, for example, is most probably an ILE

I know, but PoLR is more rejected especially in the case of Creative Subtype

Creative Subtype uses Role more than Leading Subtype

Not more likely, because Subtypes don't cancel dimensions , SLE-Ti is still 4D Se and 2D Ne , but uses Ne more than Se Subtype , while ILE has 4D Ne

[Alive]

The subtype gibberish here is sometimes really hard to read.

[lavos]

Producing subtypes have better control of the role function, they also have its full element (example in the case of SLE, SLE-Se will only have -Ne, while SLE-Ti will have the full -Ne/+Ni). They might use it more or less, depending on various factors, which include: the enneagram type, the DCNH type, type health, and experience. For example, a C-SLE-Se that is an enneagram 7, will probably use much more -Ne than an N-SLE-Ti that is 6w5. But the SLE-Ti will have the full element (-Ne/+Ni), and better control of it.

Hope it is understandable. If not fully, ask, I can explain further.

[maresnest]

Producing subtypes have better control of the role function, they also have its full element (example in the case of SLE, SLE-Se will only have -Ne, while SLE-Ti will have the full -Ne/+Ni). They might use it more or less, depending on various factors, which include: the enneagram type, the DCNH type, type health, and experience. For example, a C-SLE-Se that is an enneagram 7, will probably use much more -Ne than an N-SLE-Ti that is 6w5. But the SLE-Ti will have the full element (-Ne/+Ni), and better control of it.

Hope it is understandable. If not fully, ask, I can explain further.

i’ve heard of the inert/contact subtype but not the accepting/producing (“accepting/creative” as it says on the survey?) subtype. is there any meaningful difference between them?

[lavos]

i’ve heard of the inert/contact subtype but not the accepting/producing (“accepting/creative” as it says on the survey?) subtype. is there any meaningful difference between them?

Just another name to call them.

Inert - accepting - base - eg. SEE-Se
Contact - producing - creative (can be confused with DCNH) - eg. SEE-Fi

[seeking it]

it is possible that @Elmira is logical, as she self-reports behaviour not so likely for an ethical type (rarely sincerely laughs, smile is as if she is fighting it, does not feel compelled to influence the mood of an interaction). has a more formal, colder, less personable style of communication. somewhat more reminiscent of mine, Miss Messy's and Clarke's than the usual ethicist here.


with a typing thread + video she would get more and more qualified opinions - if her type is close to ESI, LSI for example, then this might not be an attractive prospect for her, because abundance of data for a more objective evaluation (Te) and outside perceptions of her personality and motivations (Ne) have less interest for this type

@Elmira seems ESI alright to me. Se subtype

[seeking it]

@seeking it

If you're sure of being Beta ST and just stuck between LSI-Se and SLE-Ti , find the function you use Fi or Ne

SLE-Ti use Ne very much , LSI-Se suppresses Ne's information and strongly reject it

LSI-Se uses Fi very much, SLE-Ti suppresses Fi's information and strongly reject it

I really am not sure, I do not look at myself in that way or if I try I cannot decide between these two (Ne and Fi).

I did find that I use Ne more readily in arguments etc. with LSI-Ti friend. He takes things personally faster than I do, too. He pulls up a wall sooner i.e. he said his opinions, he has nothing more to say. EDIT: Also he does not reject Ne aggressively though like I often do it. He just plain pays no attention to Ne, he has these very neatly sorted out opinions and that's all, I am not like that, I'm opinionated but ready to argue unlike him

As far as Fi I am very private and closed off, I try to see everything in an incredibly impersonal way, and I have incredibly delayed emotional reactions to some things. But I also have my social limits so I do not go too far with jokes and whatever because I can sense it could be "too much". I am not sure if I sense it via Fi limits/boundaries or Ti limits/boundaries

seeking it is most likely ethical

Lol alright thanks for the input. I could be anything but Ethical though. Sigh

suppression and rejection of information relating to both superego functions is not unusual, not just one.

That's exactly me, I reject both pretty hard. I get aggressive about Ne and I get really detached about Fi feelings

[Alive]

PussyInASarcophagus - IEI

[Poptart]

PussyInASarcophagus - IEI

Now you’re just trolling

[maresnest]

Just another name to call them.

Inert - accepting - base - eg. SEE-Se
Contact - producing - creative (can be confused with DCNH) - eg. SEE-Fi

thanks, that’s what i assumed but the questionnaire made me think otherwise because they were both separately on there, and i was like, “did i miss something?”
i wonder why the questionnaire has both “inert/contact” and “accepting/producing” subtypes on there since it’s redundant

[youfloweryourfeast]

a lot of LSIs have that type of nose and small face

[youfloweryourfeast]

my father is LSE and once he came over and saw me writing about something to do with personalilty types when i first got into it. (idk what is was exactly since it was a long time ago), but he said "people have too many layers to fit into something like that"
once before i was obsessed with some weird conspiracy things and it was something to do with princess diana. he got really mad saying "that is not real why are you believing in these fake conspiracy things"
i dont even think he was dualized before because he used to be very cold and close minded, now he is more warm still he would probably never look too deply into socionics. i can speak to my eie mother about anything to do with socionics and how it applies to different people in our life. my dad is intellectual though and likes reading but more about real life things like nature or history.

[inumbra]

I wonder if @Alive is EII. Noticing the image focus of visitors here and the Ni-ish lean while actually being secretly critical of it in an Fi way?

/hides/

I think it's quite common for male EII to mistype LII.

(Disclaimer: socionics is a model, not a clear depiction of reality.)

But! It just seems odd to me that a 4d Ti would think most people here are the same type. So little differentiation and categorization, and my 2d Ti smells a rat, a disavower of the Ti, who scoffs upon it, a rat with a head cold!

Usually the LII is annoying due to their excessive categorization and ability to tell this from that from this from that. It's precious when they say everything is the same, bc gosh, in that case it really might be. But that is not the case here, so... What is left?

[nifl]

@inumbra
IEI is more likely
his communication style is more like a Fe person - Fi types when they are annoyed are more passive-aggressive than openly scornful or ridiculing of their opponents. same with Lady Lunacy, who thinks she's a Fi base (probably ESE or EIE)
much categorisation into one category is just as much Ti as more varied categorisations. Ti = ''subjective'' logic: lines of reasoning, creation of logical categories, hierarchies etc.
problems with logical consistency is just more common for ethical types in general.

[Alive]

I wish there were more types on this website, I really do. I also wish I had a more diverse gallery. I'm not here to appeal to others. I geniunly think almost everyone here has the same type. I don't get any benefits from claiming everyone here has the same type, on the contrary. imagine if Gulenko or Jack would type everyone that sends them a video as the same type. their business model would vanish, but I'm not influenced by monetary gain. I just make neutral observations. it is what it is.

[Beautiful sky]

@Subteigh EII AND I owe you a personal apology

[trick]

Can someone tell me what my type is?

[Alive]

Can someone tell me what my type is?

You seem Ni base from your introduction. Nice Lain pics. Videos could help but not everyone is open to doing that. I'm leaning towards IEI for you

[nifl]

Can someone tell me what my type is?

make a typing video

[trick]

What's a typing video? Is that a video in which I show myself? I won't do that - so unfortunately that's not an option.

[Beautiful sky]

What's a typing video? Is that a video in which I show myself? I won't do that - so unfortunately that's not an option.

You don’t have to do a video to get your type. You do have to start viewing my videos and trying to understand the functions and what they mean

[Beautiful sky]

What's a typing video? Is that a video in which I show myself? I won't do that - so unfortunately that's not an option.

So far I’ve only made Ne-Ni
Fe-Fi

https://youtu.be/TEGUpHDd3FQ

https://youtu.be/kR1WvXgqfGU

Understand which one you use constantly ask people around you which ones show up and ask many people including your parents

[Megatrop]

I just came here to say that @Tallmo is INTj
He's always classifying information and correcting people's incorrect logic, has a directive TJ approach to people, high focus on Ni, clearly introverted, clearly thinker, intuition is more prominent but always subjected to his judging, always getting to logical conclusions not necessarily fully supported by sensory and intuitive background, relies too much on theory, because it's the most valued aspect of interpretation of data.

You're welcome

[Beautiful sky]

I just came here to say that @Tallmo is INTj
He's always classifying information and correcting people's incorrect logic, has a directive TJ approach to people, high focus on Ni, clearly introverted, clearly thinker, intuition is more prominent but always subjected to his judging, always getting to logical conclusions not necessarily fully supported by sensory and intuitive background, relies too much on theory, because it's the most valued aspect of interpretation of data.

You're welcome

Ok so now why wouldn’t you consider how Ti in Tallmo would work as an ISFp

[Beautiful sky]

You seem Ni base from your introduction. Nice Lain pics. Videos could help but not everyone is open to doing that. I'm leaning towards IEI for you

Alive is definitely LII
Quick to make that Judgement lol

[Megatrop]

Ok so now why wouldn’t you consider how Ti in Tallmo would work as an ISFp

I've tried that in the past, but the pieces didn't fit together, I knew there was something wrong. Now I know

[Megatrop]

Alive is definitely LII
Quick to make that Judgement lol

Alive is definitely Ti lead and seems Ne valuing even though he narrows everything down to one single possibility lol