@Sol What in the Edgar Allen fuck is this?
lol This is why K4M types you as EII. In all seriousness, why is it acceptable for you, in post after hard to comprehend post, to speak about your feelings and wax poetic and still be considered "base T" when others are not afforded that luxury? I've called you out several times concerning this inconsistency and double standard, and yet you never address it. I actually like to see these kinds of posts from you, but according to Solcionics, this is not the behavior of a "base T" type and so I need you to help me understand why you are the only exception to this rule.
And then you go on to say things like this...
So here you acknowledge that, even in person/face to face, which you continuously argue is the best way to type someone, it's possible to mistype due to non type related factors, and yet online, where people can literally only present (largely one dimensional) aspects of their personality, you believe it's reasonable to accurately type someone? Like you have, let's say, me? lol To the degree that you go around acting like some malfunctioning robot model stuck on a corrupted data loop, repeating the same stale shit over and over again, seemingly incapable of taking in and processing new data streams that are evidently too complicated for your obsolete core processor? To be an alleged logical type, this is a lot of intellectual dishonesty. Explain yourself.
sol EII? no way
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
lol According to K4M, he is. Outside of the Bizzaro World, right here on Earth 1, Sol is indeed a LSE. I'm just confused as to why he gets to make "Fe" jokes, freely talk about his emotions concerning life and his many paramours, give Tarot readings (that are the antithesis of logic), and do free form poetry all over the Random Thought thread and still be considered "base T."
When one judges another person more critically than they judge themselves, that is called intellectual dishonesty, because they are applying standards of allegedly rational evaluation in a disingenuous, self-serving way. If I show emotion (only anger, btw), I'm clearly a Fe base in his estimation, but he can do the same, all over the fucking place, in a very sweet and melodramatic way, and yet still be a Te lead. That doesn't make sense.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Then he's an even bigger asshole than I originally thought. It's ironic that a self-ascribed Socionics "expert" and logical, base T type doesn't realize a fundamental Jungian and Socionics based premise that that suggestive function drives the activity of the leading function. His own immature and under developed F impulses contributes to how he applies his cherry picked logic.
They probably live inside their own little bubble where they're the "smartest, most logical, etc." unaware that they're actually losing touch and judging other irrationally, constantly creating new standards to judge others by only to soon break these standards when it comes to themselves.
More confirmation for their lack of awareness and contradictory statements.
The bolded bit is really shitty though, if true.
Maybe people don't like me because I wear sandals and a tunic on weekdays, and a blouse and beret at weekends.
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I do not like what relates to your EIE issues, general things alike your misleading people about your type, rude talking, incompetent nonsense you write about types, etc.
So you have negative presumptions about Russains. Paranoid and close to mad today antirussian USA propaganda.
Russians have nothing against Armenia. They were part of Russia for 2 centuries until very recent time (and hence are our people in Russian's perception still). Armenia is still among the most friendly states. For example, this is seen in its existence in Customs Union.
To have irrational attitudes to some nations alike you have to Russians, being inspired to hate them due to USA medias propaganda and to rationalize this hate by mad ideas. It's the trait more common for Ni valued types. To be naive to propaganda is also common for EIE and is expected from you. Also simplistically to devide people on our (good in anything) and alien (bad in anything) is more common for beta.
P.S. you are "American" (USAian), but not Armenian. as you are not citizen of Armenia
That is a total lie and you know it.
I don’t say anything contrary to “INFJ “ as stated in both classical literature of the type per Jung and other Socionics literature. You however not liking me for whatever reason you have seek to justify your hate with EIE when you have failed time and again to find evidence of your hate and mistyping of me even going so far as to avoid EVERY rational person who types me EII and who has presented the argument for my type in a rational manner when you have failed to present that argument for EIE.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
@Beautiful sky
****** had your EIE type and says alot about your inclinations. Fascism has an egocentric paranoia in its base.
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
♪ Why does it always rain on me? Is it because I lied when I was seventeen? ♪
Improving your happiness and changing your personality for the better
Jungian theory is not grounded in empirical data (pdf file)
The case against type dynamics (pdf file)
Cautionary comments regarding the MBTI (pdf file)
Reinterpreting the MBTI via the five-factor model (pdf file)
Do the Big Five personality traits interact to predict life outcomes? (pdf file)
The Big Five personality test outperformed the Jungian and Enneagram test in predicting life outcomes
Evidence of correlations between human partners based on systematic reviews and meta-analyses of traits
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Honest question, do you actually believe you're typing this person objectively?
Because my honest impression from your posts right here is that bias/hate is raining down from your every word. Essentially reducing your posts(which you're probably serious about) to mere satire.
@Troll Nr 007
"Location Logical supermacy torturing So(u)ls"
the degree he's annoyed by my disagreements with him to be T type points on his possible Fe, - nonvalued weak Te - my base. also the style of his opposing is rather emotional, - not by logical arguments. mb he's my subrevisie or conflictor for which ones is hard to oppose adequately to my opinion
Positive subject ethics Fi (+). My attitude to people. Necessity to express my attitude, opinion, feelings of love. Pleasant/unpleasant. My evaluation of a thing, an object, a person.
“I figure he HATES.....”
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
-expressing all of those things is Fe, Fi doesn't express easily.
-self entitlement, authority, developed sense of self and boasting, pressure: Se.
-evaluation through "objective (physical) criteria": Se/Ti
(-attention mainly placed in the world of experience: S)
He’s like more evolved or something
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
dont say that aloud :/
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Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
Sky is not EIE. Rather than focusing on her stubborn manner of interacting with certain people, I suggest considering instead her lack of persuasiveness—no offense, Sky. She doesn’t tailor her message to her audience. She persistently says the same things pretty much the same way and has been doing so for years, regardless of the feedback received. Any change in how she communicates is slow, incremental, and apparently related to her internal processes and not to external demands. She doesn’t step back for a larger picture, instead picking at granular details.
This is actually incredibly similar to how Sol communicates, by the way. Both of them think they have the right system, with very little give-and-take. They just don’t have the same system, so they are at odds here.
They are also almost never entertaining.
It’s an Fe desert.
LSI: “I still can’t figure out Pinterest.”
Me: “It’s just, like, idea boards.”
LSI: “I don’t have ideas.”
Is @khcs LII?
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I'd say nothing of this is type related, except that the fixation to some particulars vs efficiency and bigger vision is Ti, not Te, nor Ne.
yeah.. exactly like someone else here. (I told you what I think of such behaviors in the abortion thread, lol)
btw I'm not saying she's an EIE but that's not far..
Last edited by ooo; 05-24-2019 at 09:41 PM.
A sudden thought after I read the messages about usage.
Can upbringing improve or worsen the quality of cognitive functions?
A few times here at this board people stated that my is better than usual for a LII. I can't judge myself how well developed my is. Can it be that my is better because both my parents are valuing types?
****** is not Beautiful Sky, IMO.
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The case against type dynamics (pdf file)
Cautionary comments regarding the MBTI (pdf file)
Reinterpreting the MBTI via the five-factor model (pdf file)
Do the Big Five personality traits interact to predict life outcomes? (pdf file)
The Big Five personality test outperformed the Jungian and Enneagram test in predicting life outcomes
Evidence of correlations between human partners based on systematic reviews and meta-analyses of traits
Godwin's Law Alert!
That's when you argue why being compared to ****** is a good thing rather than a bad thing.
"Yes, I am very passionate about what I do, thank you for noticing!"
Environmental/upbringing factors play an important role in the formation of an individuals personality, it's not far-fetched to assume that having two Fe valuing parents would influence better usage of the function, at the very least it would make one more tolerant/better at handling Fe issues than they would otherwise be without positive influence from one or two Fe-valuing parental figures during early child development.
Sol and Sky are actually the same person.
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