talkin out cha azz whole
Hej @Tallmo, would you mind volunteering your expertise, please? What do you think I am in the DCNH system?
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
@Tallmo
Harmonizing subtype for me? Do you agree or disagree or you can't tell?
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
I posted a few pictures more of myself there:
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...=1#post1255640
Last edited by WinnieW; 06-04-2019 at 07:32 PM.
Only an EII-Fi would start a Family Photos thread:
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-Family-Photos
You silly boy, you typed Subteigh ESE even though he was one of the first to make a family photo thread. Not very observant are you. Thing about making absolute statements like you did above is that they often come back to bite you on the ass. Not to worry, most of your typings are a bundle of contradictions divorced from reality anyway so mistakes like this are not uncommon for you.Originally Posted by Kill4Me
P.S. @those I owe a pm, I am not actually back yet but when I am I will respond. I am just passing through. Welcome back @mfckrzOriginally Posted by Kill4Me
ESE-Fe: Chipsnunderwear, Suz, Inumbra, Subteigh, Kalinoche, FlutteringShyx, Mrrrmaid, Fardraft
ESE-Si: Mu4, Wacey, Xerx, Esaman, KrigtheViking, Hacim, Little Timmy,
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
@Kill4Me On top of an obviously diminished ability to draw abstract connections beyond your limited ass sense perception, you're also a bumbling idiot. Interesting how you cherry pick posts that you think may portray (heaven forbid you actually articulated a fucking thought strung together by something called words to ARGUE and PROVE your assertions like a moderately intelligent person) a certain type, while neglecting the vast majority of my posting history.
The first post involved a violation of my Fi value system. The second post, I honestly don't know what the fuck you're getting at there that would speak to my being an ethical type, especially seeing as how I'm actually addressing someone's persistent usage of logical fallacies.
If you are too lazy to give an actual analysis, then keep your myopic, cogntively rigid, low rent, half-assed opinions to yourself. The only thing you're doing is making your typing method look more shoddy than what it already is.
EIE-Fe is the right call for Alonzo. So, the only two viable options for it are EIE-Fe or ESI-Se. First, subtract out its E6 adversarial features (pugnaciousness, accusation, projection, defensiveness, victimized entitlement, us versus them). What’s left? A ciphon-like cognition attempting to passionately translate and express the feelings/hopes/fears/anxieties/moods of communities/movements/groups....the orientation towards communities/movements/groups comes from so/sx but the cognition itself is FeNi clear as day (Ni-creative fuels the expression with imaginative framing and heightened mental drift).
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@Alonzo
"you're also a bumbling idiot"
ESIs. LIE are not as rude as Alonzo. He's not LIE. They are rude alike me.
I hope this makes you feel better about your duals.
Says who? You can't type for shit.
Says who? You can't type for shit.
lol Fuck you. I don’t adhere to your pissy enneagram profiles or your flawed and flimsy typing method, which by the way, you yourself completely contradict. You are the biggest coward on this board when it comes to self-assertion, dominance or confrontation, on any matter. You like to be aggressive with those who don’t push back on you. But you’ve never gotten rowdy with me, most probably because you know I’d turn your ass every which way but loose. You are no 8, motherfucker. I’ve never lived my life based on fear or cowardice. My chief motivator is ANGER and my vice, a gluttonous lust for it, which is why you feeble minded, disingenuous simpletons insist on labeling me an ethical type. But name one “emotion” I broadcast around here besides anger. I’ll wait.
Cute. But no.
1.) Everyone is capable of everything. Lemme repeat> Everyone is capable of everything. Once more for the cheap seats in the back> Everyone is capable of everything. The differentiating factor is that our usage of the functions vary in scope and strength. Point out where I utilize 4D Fe and 3D Fi. I’ll wait.
2.) To an ant, raindrops crash like massive, inescapable tidal waves; but to an average sized adult, rain drops aren't remotely as overwhelming, awe inspiring, and noteworthy. You, motherfucker, emotionally speaking, are an ant. And Fe raindrops will therefore appear larger and more threatening to you than to others; I'm more like a scrappy kitten (avoids getting wet when possible but won't die from the occasional sprinkling), whereas an actual Fe dominant, would be the human being with a more nuanced, sophisticated relationship with emotional downpours and flooding. Just because I’m a higher evolved species than you are, does not mean that I’m an ethical type. There needs to be a moratorium on those with utterly deficient ethical skills typing anyone who’s somewhat better than them at it as “clear as day” ethical types. Ridiculous.
3.) Any human without significant developmental disabilities, be they a logical or ethical type, should be able to sufficiently “express the feelings/hopes/fears/anxieties/moods of communities/movements/groups” if at the very least, they know how to read, watch, and listen, which is what I do. I know what’s going on with people because I. READ. FUCKING. BOOKS. I also watch television (documentaries, the News, interviews, film) and more than that, I observe, engage and interact with people on the regular and listen to what they have to say...like a normal fucking person. Both Te and Fe are beholden to the tribe and what’s going on with the tribe; it’s just they engage the tribe along different parameters. I'm far more competent at providing Te services than Fe ones. But I shouldn’t have to point that out to an alleged “typing expert."
4.) This bit right here seems the most challenging for certain sensors to understand. Basing your judgments purely off of what can only be immediately beheld with the senses is A LIMITED way to perceive the world. It’s certainly a valid, vital perspective but only ONE, which does not tell the complete story. There are a plethora of "behind the scene" variables and factors that matter when typing someone. Moreover, to a certain extent, you must allow other people to speak to their experience, an experience that exists beyond what you see yourself, and that has to count for something. When I’ve said time and time again that I am not an empath (which one would have to be to varying extents in order to be an ethical type), and damn sure not one that experiences affective empathy (by way of contagion), which all types that value Fe experience to some degree, you must take my word for it. There has to be some level of trust that I know myself well enough to make such a declaration. It’s impossible for you to know the full inner workings of my mind and body. PERIOD.
5.) Oh and I also VI as a LIE based on Filatova’s portraits, which are exceedingly more reliable and empirically based than any of your disastrous VI templates. But again, you'll just have to take my word for it. Unless you want to trade pics.
6.) You also acknowledge subtypes, but then seemingly refuse to acknowledge that a LIE-Ni would have strengthened intuition and ethics and so accentuated Fi and Fe would be par for the course > like some ersatz NF. DERP.
7.) You get no awards for your paltry, insufficient, ill conceived and poorly reasoned “observations.”
More idiocy. Are you feeling dizzy and lightheaded today? Did you not receive your daily rations or whatever stale, crusty ass bread they feed you people these days?
1.) Any type can be “rude” or “nice”; those things are not type related. Furthermore, I am a complex human being with agency and can use this platform in whichever way I choose–perhaps I use it to blow off steam. You do not know me or see me in my day to day life. This persona is only a fraction of who I am. A true logical type would be able to understand that distinction. Even still, if one were to actually go through my posting history, they’d see that in totality, I’m clearly Te > Fe. Only the dumb, willfully obtuse or flat out trolls say otherwise.
2.) I can manifest a particularly mean, nasty, sadistic streak when I want to, which if one were to THINK about it, makes sense for someone with submerged ethics. I rarely if ever feel bad for the shit I say because I’m not emotionally attached to any of it. They are just words to me. Most of the time, I don't say things to make people feel bad. I just give my raw, unbridled thoughts, which is what Te types are known for.
3.) A while back you said that I have strong intuition (which I do), but now all of a sudden I'm a sensor? lol How logical, consistent and coherent of you.
4.) And if logical types can't be rude, then logical types also shouldn't believe in random, illogical, superstitious ass tarot cards and bitch and moan and cry in the Random Thought Thread about all the evidently intelligent women that don't want him.
you have Fe type. mb SEI
and there are no clear methods to understand which functions are accentuated at you. especially without normal data about nonverbal
as you like to ask a lot of senseless questions, then mb your Fe is accentuated above average
I really wish you would spend more time critiquing (and improving) your English and less time focusing on other peoples' types. Then perhaps it would be easier to discern if you are actually saying/contributing anything of value. Any base Te user worth their salt values competency, accuracy and effectiveness; your broken pigeon English, in part, prohibits you from manifesting those objectives. At the very least, there are myriads and myriads of decent, easily accessible English language resources on the internet and so there would seem to be little to no excuse for you...or is there?
@Delilah
there is my IR test in the signature. the last SEI which do it got at top ILE and other types fiting to SEI not badly
you'd need to understand correctly your type before asking anything here. then you'd had lesser misunderstandings of the basics to ask nonsenses
Okay so you are Te.
I agree, one thing that bothers me about ST sensor thinkers, si, te, is that they make many many wrong assumptions about things going on in the work place. They see the end result of stuff, and make these huge logical leaps and wrong assumptions about how you got there. I actually find this to be the most frustrating part about working with them. Only knowing what you can see isn't actually the greatest. I find myself saying> okay thanks for your help, now go away.
Hold up--took a quick scan through your post history and wacey is your other account on here? You're one of my faves. You gotta be ESI-Se or something approximate, right? Reading your posts has a very soothing and calming affect on me--I'm very suggestible to your brand of Fi; your judgments have often felt correct to me and somewhat remind of a close cousin and one of my best friends who are also ESI-Se and with whom I no longer readily have the benefit of nudging me towards "higher ground." lol Cheers to you.
^ @wacey, you’ve been busted.
even an obtuse troll would see that being so emotionally triggered 70% of the time is F > T.
I thought the nick was obvious
Is waiting for getting typed as F.
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@atlascog
When in doubt, type IEI.
@ooo
Within several posts on that now closed thread, I used Socionics (seeing as how we are actually on a Socionics site) to illustrate precisely what my problem with you is (Te, by the way, and peons like you and Sol claim I solely use emotions to make my arguments) and why my reactions to you, in particular, have been so intense. But being the irrational, over imaginative (but bearing little substantial fruits) person that you are, you'd like to believe something else, as if you are actually somebody worth lying to. Fine. But I just need to correct a few things that don't necessarily fall out of sync within this type me thread.
Untrue. We can stay within this thread to find examples where someone contradicted my self typing and I "withstood" it remarkably well.
For one, I'm not using ad hominem when I say that I legit believe that you are not too bright. And so your "observations" tend to strike me as daft, which full disclosure, irritates the fuck out of me. That in addition to your sly condescending digs about my nature only compounded my disdain for you. You keep making sweeping generalizations that I uniformly act in a hostile or combative way to those that "contradict" me and that is false. I simply don't like you, in particular, for previously articulated reasons. Other people I spar with on here, even when it gets nasty, at the end of the day, I don't give a fuck or hold onto shit. In another thread, in another context, I may be quite civil or even gracious to them. But because you're so self-focused, you can't see beyond your echo chamber of inanity and conspiracy theorizing. To reiterate, I simply don't like you, in particular, which makes sense within the confines of unpleasant relations of benefit.
I'll repeat the same thing I said then in that thread >
Nope, by that point, I had already begun to think that you were patronizing and I did not care for you.
This is the lack of rigor that often leads me to be believe that you are "limited" and/or intellectually dishonest. You perfectly illustrate Low D Te's struggle to utilize nuance, clarity and accuracy. In previous comments I posted from that type me thread and ones below, I explicitly and implicitly acknowledge that "feeling bad for someone we don't know doesn't fall in any particular type of high empathy," including all Fe valuers, and therefore, SLEs >
And so, no, dear, you did not point out a logical fallacy. I had already taken in account your observation. Clearly, your inability to properly differentiate information is the problem here. Tsk.
Lastly, it's interesting that people who type me as a Fe dominant and want to quote posts of me "showing emotion" never quote posts of mine similar to the ones above that show my more frequent usage of Te. Funny.
thx mods, and this last one ^
did someone already make an "in soviet russia, iei types you" joke?
it was relevant to the topic that was deleted. btw, you're just confirming on and on what I've already said. your quoting of past conversations doesn't change the way you react to people you don't like. it doesn't excuse you, either.
the last paragraphs you quoted are your umpteenth attempt to "crawl on mirrors" as we say in here, basically, you're just quoting non-sequiturs to the points you've made, and non sequiturs to what I called you out for.
The paragraphs show that you are prone to intellectual dishonesty and that by no means do you point out my "logical fallacies." You're painfully ill equipped for the job. But it takes me no time at all to successfully point out yours. Te base > Te mobilizing. I'm sorry if that's an inconvenient truth for you.
yeah right, so what about Megatrop, Sol, Muddy, Carolus, Raver, me... who else? I'm sure I'm forgetting someone. if you don't like someone that doesn't excuse your offensive behavior when they express their opinions. internet hate is voiced like this.
the logical fallacy was made clear when you admitted that all Fe types are empathetic somehow (everyone is), yet what he did was showing of ego Fe (in facts it's just stated in the SLE profile). obviously that was not the only one...
What counts as "offensive" is relative. Don't speak for people who aren't speaking up for themselves. You're the only one in here complaining, which makes sense seeing as out of everyone you listed, you're the only one I actively dislike.
And, as usual, I can count on you to disingenuously conflate related but different things. The thread I made about "online hate" was concerned with a specific brand of organizational bigotry and prejudice largely targeting racial/ethnic/religious minorities. Having arguments with random individuals on the net where there are barbs traded is something different. Nice job trivializing a form of hate that results in the murder of innocents.
lol Ti PoLR in action. Herregud.
What my comment showed was that, within the particular context of discussing Fe valuers/those who experience affective empathy by way of contagion, there are degrees and extents of empathy and that, therefore, the types experience/react to them somewhat differently (which is true for all of humanity); and that the way he claimed to use empathy seemed more in line with an Fe ego type--that was my reading of the situation/end conclusion based on what he had articulated along with other factors. That involved no fucking fallacy because my argument was logically consistent with itself. Every time you try to articulate some form of logic, it literally feels like I'm talking to a 6 year old. Ridiculously frustrating. Just...stop.
you two should just fuck already. this mating ritual is taking far too long.
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