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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusRose View Post

    Even within the same quadra, some may appear more "serious" compared to others. The Ni doms, for instance, compared to others within the Beta and Gamma quadra.
    I think it depends on other factors for Ni base. Some I find to appear serious while others seem very timid and fearful. It's likely certain core fears and motivations derived from enneagram influence their behaviour. For example, at average health levels, 9s and 6s look relatively unconfident and fearful; their emotions are more outwardly noticeable. There seems to be a huge variety of enneatypes for Ni bases, so I couldn't tell you which would be serious and which not. I'd need more information.

    I find ExIs appear serious due to Fe ignoring and Ti role. Pe impulsivity can reveal their inner feelings, though. LxIs can come across as serious but Fi role means that they're trying to be polite and, once again, Pe ego means that they may be seen as impulsive.

    I'm going to try to guess the types in those images. (From left to right in each category of depth).

    Gamma: back: LIE, ESI; front: ILI, SEE
    Alpha: back: SEI, LII, ESE; front: ILE
    Delta: back: LSE, EII, IEE; front: SLI
    Beta: back: SLE, LSI; middle: IEI; front: EIE

    Pretty certain about delta and beta. Slightly less certain about gamma. Slightly less certain about alpha.
    Honestly, these images do a pretty good job at representing the quadras. Were they drawn for socionics in particular?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FarDraft View Post
    I think it depends on other factors for Ni base. Some I find to appear serious while others seem very timid and fearful. It's likely certain core fears and motivations derived from enneagram influence their behaviour. For example, at average health levels, 9s and 6s look relatively unconfident and fearful; their emotions are more outwardly noticeable. There seems to be a huge variety of enneatypes for Ni bases, so I couldn't tell you which would be serious and which not. I'd need more information.
    Yes, but I think 'classically' they may be represented as more...morose (Ni doms, that is), in socionics. Not that I agree or disagree, just an observation.

    I find ExIs appear serious due to Fe ignoring and Ti role. Pe impulsivity can reveal their inner feelings, though. LxIs can come across as serious but Fi role means that they're trying to be polite and, once again, Pe ego means that they may be seen as impulsive.
    I'm going to try to guess the types in those images. (From left to right in each category of depth).

    Gamma: back: LIE, ESI; front: ILI, SEE
    I think introverted functions often have their own creative way of seeing things.
    Anyways, I am guessing they may have meant it this way (L to R without regard to depth): ESI, LIE, SEE, ILI. Fits more what V/A is described as...though perhaps I could be wrong. Other Gammas can pitch in...

    Alpha: back: SEI, LII, ESE; front: ILE
    Delta: back: LSE, EII, IEE; front: SLI
    I see those two similarly.

    Beta: back: SLE, LSI; middle: IEI; front: EIE
    I was myself confused about Beta, honestly, so I don't know what to say.

    Pretty certain about delta and beta. Slightly less certain about gamma. Slightly less certain about alpha.
    Honestly, these images do a pretty good job at representing the quadras. Were they drawn for socionics in particular?
    They might have been. I got them from here...
    https://activeapperception.wordpress.../gamma-quadra/

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    Wait what is going on here?

    This whole thing seems to be a huge misunderstanding.

    The only reason I commented on the interaction between Cody and Sol was because I thought Cody had intentionally revealed elements of Sol's test as a form of sabotage. Appearantly, that wasn't the case, I had misunderstood.

    Also, Cody, I did not send you any PM recently, so I don't know what that's about. I have PM'ed you before but that was like months ago and it was about my type. I did not PM you in recent times or having anything to do with Sol's test. Yes, I did talk about Sol and how he often commented on my type that one time I PM'ed you, I basicaly said that I felt more comfortable PMing you, since Sol often made comments on my type back then. You even thanked me and said you understood.

    I am not taking sides or being partisan, yes, Sol can be annoying and I'll be the first to admit that, but that doesn't mean he is worthy of all the blame in the world. I defended him because I thought he was being wronged in this case, again like I said, a misunderstanding if that counts for anything. I do not have a "you're with us or against us" mentality so I don't see anything contradictory about finding Sol annoying and defedning him if I feel he's being wronged. Things aeren't black or white to me. There are nuances in life.

    Yes, I can be reactive, I'll admit to that, but I am not manipulative or any of those things you paint me out to be. I'm a fairly starightforward guy, I don't play games and I don't understand people that do.

    If there is any way this got started it is through misunderstanding. That's it.

    That's all.

    I don't wanna get sucked into forum drama, and I don't know why Plumes is being sucked into it, either.
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    Also, I did not "use" Plumes to defend me. You take that back, Cody.

    Yes, Plumes supported me and backed me up when I got into some drama before, but he did so without attacking others, and did so, I suppose, in order to mediate the drama, not to attack anyone or take sides. I would not ask him to "take sides" anyways and never have.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pano Lou View Post
    @Venus Rose EIIness is obvious. If he's sooo convinced that he's your conflictor, he should rethink his type. I kinda get what @Sol is saying but seriously, assuming people's intentions isn't a good thing to do :/
    You kind of get what he is trying to say?

    At now she seems tries the suicide approach. Just to stop seeing my Holy Truth. *sigh* Poor Cody.VenusRose should to seek another her victim already [as Cody may leave us soon, in case her adequacy will not return] for her covert manipulations to protect her mistypings and other emotionally motivated illusions by any means, including forum's sabotage and harming life of other people near her. Including, as we see, of the ones who trusted to her and had friendly relation to her. Ah.. betish bloody Rose.
    I just realized what he said here, as I was quite overwhelmed and triggered yesterday. I had not processed this. He is accusing me of threatening suicide in order to manipulate. Are you completely shameless Sol, in what you are willing to come up with?

    So no, Panu Lou, there is not "kind of" getting what he is saying. There is nothing to get. I have barely talked to Cody.

    I wish I didn't have to come in and correct every time he publicly tarnishes me like this, manipulates people and his general crazy-making nonsense. He was already crossing the line to begin with, but this is...too much. He is capable of quite literally anything.

    I have reported his post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusRose View Post
    You kind of get what he is trying to say?

    ...

    So no, Panu Lou, there is not "kind of" getting what he is saying. There is nothing to get. I have barely talked to Cody.

    Why did you assume it was a slight against you? I didn't catch the suicide implication, which if I had, I wouldn't have been nice about it.

    As for the "kind of get" part, I meant as in, seeing someone who disagrees with you as an enemy, as I myself am guilty of it in the past. Which is why I specifically said not to assume people's intentions.

    I have not mentioned anything about Cody either...?
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    @Pano Lou ok, was just making sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ave View Post
    Also, I did not "use" Plumes to defend me. You take that back, Cody.

    Yes, Plumes supported me and backed me up when I got into some drama before, but he did so without attacking others, and did so, I suppose, in order to mediate the drama, not to attack anyone or take sides. I would not ask him to "take sides" anyways and never have.
    When you come to someone to cry over how unfairly you are being treated by X forum members (which was actually not even the case from my part) to someone, in this case Plumes, its obvious that they are likely to take sides and try to make others feel bad about it, which is something you should be doing for yourself in first place since its your issue.

    Manipulation is not always about directly asking someone to do something. Is subtle and exploits natural people predispositions for personal gratification.


    Victim playing (also known as playing the victim, victim card or self-victimization) is the fabrication of victimhood for a variety of reasons such as to justify abuse of others, to manipulate others, a coping strategy or attention seeking.

    Manipulators often play the victim role ("poor me") by portraying themselves as victims of circumstances or someone else's behavior in order to gain pity or sympathy or to evoke compassion and thereby get something from someone. Caring and conscientious people cannot stand to see anyone suffering, and the manipulator often finds it easy and rewarding to play on sympathy to get cooperation.[3]

    While portraying oneself as a victim can be highly successful in obtaining goals over the short-term, this method tends to be less successful over time:

    Victims’ talent for high drama draws people to them like moths to a flame. Their permanent dire state brings out the altruistic motives in others. It is hard to ignore constant cries for help. In most instances, however, the help given is of short duration. And like moths in a flame, helpers quickly get burned; nothing seems to work to alleviate the victims’ miserable situation; there is no movement for the better. Any efforts rescuers make are ignored, belittled, or met with hostility. No wonder that the rescuers become increasingly frustrated — and walk away.[4]

    x

    If you want to play fool about it, that's different, but I'm not going to take anything back, since manipulation seems to be a pattern for you, like you tried to do the same stuff with me before, talking to me in pm about how Sol was mean and how you felt about it, instead of going personally to talk with him or mods to solve the issue. Which is manipulation. If you want to consider what you do as good, that's up to you. I find bizarre that because of your intromissions, Sol went after Venus and myself again (as if he needs your help), just before you crying over leaving the forum with Plumes because you were being mistreated (by sbbds and me (for one single comment) and sol and I don't know who else). I'd take all of this on Plumes if it not were because you already tried to do the same with me in the past. So you obviously have no credibility for me. So I know perfectly what manipulation is and how it operates, you wanting to accept or take this into account or not. For the rest, I said to him that you should not speak to me again in any way or form since its obvious to me you don't do stuff for good. Still, you tried to engage me in conversation two times afterwards. Then you came to support Sol in how I was supposedly spoiling his test (which was not even true) and to reprimand venus for supposedly trying to do the same which escalated over he asking for my ban and throwing shit ton of accusations.

    Finally, as I said to Feathers, I don't care about your stuff, as its obvious that you were trying to mess around with me for then playing as victim, as you are unable to engage in normal conversations in forums since you take everything as personal attack. So, as long as you don't change or fix your attitude, just avoid talking to me from now on.
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    god dammit when CAN I BE TYPED BY SOL???

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    make a video and post it or send it to him for nonverbals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    make a video and post it or send it to him for nonverbals
    Remember to follow his guidelines but you can potentially still fail at it and get the dreaded F type.
    Measuring you right now

    Winning is for losers

     

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    I do not feel like justifying myself further, Cody, as you frankly don't know me and thus cannot judge me with some diagnosis like you were my psychiatrist.

    I will clarify that your facts are wrong, as I don't recall ever saying I was being treated unfairly by anyone.

    Beyond that, people can believe what they want, of course.

    I don't understand where all this drama comes from, what the problem is, nor what issue you think you are trying to solve.


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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    I think she's going one by one until she has the whole forum on ignore for some perceived slight or injustice against her. Idk. But welcome to the club lol.
    Who?
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    type me bitchesss

    Quote Originally Posted by ruined View Post
    god dammit when CAN I BE TYPED BY SOL???
    this. Sol, quit bullying all the heretics and start typing the people who care about you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue View Post
    I haven't witnessed that much of @Sol, being fairly new here, but he strikes me as an intuitive and thinking type, and he's far too serious to be Alpha, so that only leaves Gamma NTs.
    I have some immunity to suppose gamma NT by my interest to good recipes. I also like to find new food and check how good it is due to creative Si.
    My interests here are closer to N, but generally I'm not good in imagination regions. In one of school testing I've got zero on the abstraction scale.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mio Q View Post
    Sol, quit bullying all the heretics and start typing the people who care about you
    I care about all here. As all here are for the truth.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarDraft View Post
    The serious/merry dichotomy is frequently misunderstood IMO. It doesn't mean that people in "serious" quadras are actually always serious.
    True, but you could say there is a bit of un-seriousness to Alphas as opposed to Gammas, which is why I would say based on my proposition that Sol is a NT, he'd be Gamma before Alpha.

    In fact, LIEs (especially the intuitive subtype) are known for their constant joking around and sexual humour. The dichotomy is better used to understand how one is with respect to new people and truth. Serious types see meeting others as almost a ritual that they need to surpass before "getting to know them", whereas merry types are more fluid in this sense. Moreover, serious types perceive most truths as objective whereas merry types treat most truths as subjective.
    That's exactly why I would say @Sol is a serious type, and therefore not LSI. He seems Te-valuing to me. Also, just to reiterate this from the link posted by @Venus Rose:


    Serious
    Bad at noticing emotional background and do not separate the emotional aspect (particularly 'fun') from the activity.

    Acquaintance with others is established by ritual (e.g., introduction), and they prefer if the context of interaction is externally set (eg, by a mediator (think 'arranged marriages') or situation) so that they can skip the first phases and begin closer interaction.

    They approach others through stages defined by 'rules' and 'rituals', which may be created by themselves and/or already existing; thus, they are very aware of the stages of the process of acquaintance – e.g., when a person is no longer a stranger. The title, name, and any other information about the other person are considered important, and for this reason formal introduction is important

    Inclined to believe there are 'objective truths' – the truth is not always relative. Therefore, they believe that there are two types of actions/perspectives: those which are subjective (connected with personal preferences and motivations) and those which are objective (only one 'correct' or 'best' way of doing something). Whether something is correct or not is judged by comparing it with what they see as 'objectively correct'. In disagreement, they first attempt to make sure that the other person understands the concepts and terms 'correctly'.

    They are inclined to offer (or impose) what they see as the 'best' or 'correct' way of doing something ('it should be done like this'). If they think something is done incorrectly, they ask WHO did it that way. When speaking of optimums, they are inclined to do so objectively (the 'absolute' optimum)
    Is that not Sol?

    I personally think Sol is LSI. He seems to have developed his own system of truth in socionics (his IR test) that he places as the absolute standard for determining type (Ti valuing).
    Why isn't this Te and objectivist? I didn't think Ti would care about setting an absolute standard.

    Besides that test and his "intuitive" VI impressions, though, he seems to ignore all other evidence, which leads me to think Te ignoring.
    Possibly, or could be Ne-Ignoring too.

    He also doesn't value seeing things from other perspectives like an Ne valuer would.
    Yes, again consistent with Ne-Ignoring, or unvalued Ne.

    He's far more stubborn than the average LII, which is possible if he's Ti subtype, but I think it's more likely that he's LSI, especially since he confronts people about their type quite a bit, indicating fairly strong Se.
    Ni-valuing for stubbornness, but other types can be stubborn too. Perhaps you're confusing Te with Se. Idk. I like how my way of thinking lines up with Merry quadra description here, unintentionally.

    They are inclined to propose (or impose) another conception of the situation ('look at it this way'). If they think something is done incorrectly, they will ask WHY it was done that way. When talking about optimums, they are inclined to do it subjectively ('optimum compared to what?')
    At the same time, though, he's been here for so long that he may feel he has some sort of authority or power, which could give the illusion of strong Se. However, I don't think an LII would be so confrontational regardless.
    I agree, LII wouldn't be that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pano Lou View Post
    @Cody I see through your blatant typeism. In this regard, you are no better than Sol. Cease this childishness now.
    I feel there is a certain prejudice towards Betas around these parts, where if you don't like a person, or don't agree with their views on things, they must be from a different quadra. It seems a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy, if you ask me. I believe myself to not like a certain group of people and their IEs, therefore any person I dislike or have a disagreement with must be from a different quadra. At least, that's what it looks like from the outside. It's in line with quadras who are aristocratic and think in that way, if anything.

    By the way, was going to say you seem like you are Fe. I felt a recognition of similarity in your statements. Just to give you more on current typing displayed.

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    there is a certain "prejudice" around everyone. In quotes because people may just dislike certain behaviors but prejudice to me means actually treating someone badly. People talk 'badly' about Delta, Gammas, Alphas, or whoever...but as long as they are not harming someone...

    And I don't really wish to be dragged into that either, Blue. As I had made it clear attacks feel really overwhelming for me. Even slight aggression feels like an attack.

    Also, it's in the LSI description, somewhere, comparing them to another type, that Ti types are more tolerant that there are different ways of looking at things. Healthy Ti would be better at it. Anyways I will leave that conversation about Te and Ti up to you and FarDraft since I am not strong on those functions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    I think she's going one by one until she has the whole forum on ignore for some perceived slight or injustice against her. Idk. But welcome to the club lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    Cody.


    Obviously I'm not going to let myself be manipulated and disrespected by people like you, as the abusive and immature person you are, you couldn't avoid to take advantage of the situation to speak against me, neither to keep on agreements or follow the rules.

    Its funny to see how you think of yourself as a righteous good person. Keep on with your show.

    For my part, @Myst, sorry for the first time I get exasperated over you and for the second time that Squark used my issue with you (since I was a new member) to attack you personally. I now see that actually Niffer and you were right about her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    The only agreement that you and I had was that you asked me not to talk to you and I said, "Sure, I can do that." And unless it's happened by accident when you changed your name and I didn't know I was talking to you, I've kept to that. I'm talking to you now because you're addressing me. The only time that this would have anything to do with following any forum rules is if there is a mutual ignore order put in place by the admin. Telling people not to talk to you doesn't mean anything. They don't have to comply, and the ignore order is last ditch effort to resolve a conflict if nothing else seems to be working. You don't have any of these in place with anyone, you just whine if anyone looks at you funny and you start demanding they ignore you lol.



    Um, what? I was only talking about you, and not about anyone else. . . BUT it actually was me trying to defend you that started the issues between me and other forum members. Issues that as far as I know we've settled. So. . . not sure why you're mentioning anything. Except, well, you're really good at escalating conflict and pitting people against each other while pretending to be innocent. You've already done this multiple times this thread and everywhere else on the forum. And trying to keep you out of the conflict LOL boy was I mistaken about that. . . you ARE the conflict.
    Well lady, pitting people against each other while pretending to be innocent is exactly what YOU and Ave have done.
    Keep on your cheap excuses, you are not fooling anyone, its obvious you were resented before to Myst as you just took opportunity against her since I was a new member. Then, as I never spoke at you, you went after me as now since I never give a damn about you or whatever garbage you have to say. But you do over me, don't you?

    No, here's the agreement as goes with forum rules:

    3.7. Mutual Antagonism: There are some situations where mutual antagonism leads to conflict which disrupt the forum. In these situations involved users should use the ignore function and attempt to not escalate situations. Failure to do this will result in the issuing of a Ignore Order, to the antagonistic parties.

    The order shall be:

    1. Ignore each other using the ignore function in the forum and chatbox

    2. Do not respond to each other in any way.

    3. Do not post in non-socionics threads started by the other user(s).

    3. Do not make personal posts in socionics threads started by the other user(s).

    4. Do not in any way attempt to speak/engage/notify the other user(s).

    5. Failure to comply with the above directives may result in a 1 day temporary ban and/or a ban from chatbox and/or a thread ban.

    6. Failure to comply with the above directives 3 times may result in a 1 month temporary ban.


    You didn't keep that as you didnt keep that with Myst either. I never spoke at you but you were often after me quoting me and saying bs, when I asked you to clarify your points you started to insult me and disrespect me. I asked you to not speak to me again and you couldn't keep on with forum rules either. It's obvious who's wrong here, as you are the one taking advantage again to stir shit as the sick person you are. Just because I'm more honest than you or Ave doesn't mean I'm the conflict. Now go and fuck yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusRose View Post
    there is a certain "prejudice" around everyone. In quotes because people may just dislike certain behaviors but prejudice to me means actually treating someone badly. People talk 'badly' about Delta, Gammas, Alphas, or whoever...but as long as they are not harming someone...
    That's more discrimination. Prejudice is just holding the belief, regardless of whatever action one takes.

    And I don't really wish to be dragged into that either, Blue. As I had made it clear attacks feel really overwhelming for me. Even slight aggression feels like an attack.
    Ok, but maybe it's something one should be made more aware of, even if they don't intentionally mean to be hurtful by doing so. I was just voicing my opinion on the situation and how it looks to me. People take typing way too seriously here, but that's just me. I don't feel like this is what Jung intended when he was thinking of types lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue View Post
    I feel there is a certain prejudice towards Betas around these parts, where if you don't like a person, or don't agree with their views on things, they must be from a different quadra. It seems a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy, if you ask me. I believe myself to not like a certain group of people and their IEs, therefore any person I dislike or have a disagreement with must be from a different quadra.
    I agree; it's a little obnoxious seeing opposing quadras just flinging shit at each other cause of that "us vs them" mentality. This sort of state of mind is what annoys me, and I really think people would benefit if they could see the strengths of the "other" rather than focusing on generalizations and weaknesses. There's a reason a good deal of opposite-quadra relationships are described with an initial (and sometimes enduring) mutual respect; the other partner is inherently good at something you're not, and even if the best bet in that situation is to hold them at arms' length, there's still ought to be that acknowledgement and recognition of what the other values and excels at.

    It's like mbti all over again where "anyone I don't like/share opinions with is a sensor and all my friends are perfect infjs" and that sort of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue View Post
    That's more discrimination. Prejudice is just holding the belief, regardless of whatever action one takes.



    Ok, but maybe it's something one should be made more aware of, even if they don't intentionally mean to be hurtful by doing so. I was just voicing my opinion on the situation and how it looks to me. People take typing way too seriously here, but that's just me. I don't feel like this is what Jung intended when he was thinking of types lol.
    Ok, I don't want to be attacked, nor have my boundaries violated by constantly being attacked over my type, you and sol constantly 'discussing' my type when I have made it clear to him that those are my boundaries. He is manipulative and what he is doing takes a huge toll on my health. I don't think anyone is entitled to overthrow someone's boundaries.
    Nor do I wish to be constantly mentioned in your...anything...regarding Sol, as you have a few times now on this thread.

    That's all.

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    People like to h8 on betas for enjoying and getting into drama, but look, it’s fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    Yes, I know what the order is, and what the rules are. However, you and I do NOT have an ignore order in effect. Do you not understand this? Do you not understand that this is something that is put in place by the admin after prolonged conflict that hasn't been able to be resolved any other way? This isn't something that you just decide one day to say exists to prevent people from talking to you. I get that you don't have the easiest time with English, but hopefully this clears things up.
    lol, do you love to play the fool, don't you? If I asked you to not speak to me again is because I was asking you to put me on ignore. Now, hurry up and put me on ignore so you won't have to read what I write anymore and won't feel tempted to engage me or speak to me or about me in any way or form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusRose View Post
    Ok, I don't want to be attacked, nor have my boundaries violated by constantly being attacked over my type, you and sol constantly 'discussing' my type when I have made it clear to him that those are my boundaries.
    I'm not sure why you think my last post just now was an attack. I don't "constantly" discuss your type with He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named (aka Soldemort ). One time I agreed with him, and then when you made yourself clear that you didn't want to talk about it, I backed off because I felt bad, and I believe I haven't brought up anything about your type since, as far as I can remember. If this still reads like an attack, it isn't meant to be.

    He is manipulative and what he is doing takes a huge toll on my health. I don't think anyone is entitled to overthrow someone's boundaries.
    Nor do I wish to be constantly mentioned in your...anything...regarding Sol, as you have a few times now on this thread.

    That's all.
    Ok, I won't mention you again. I only did in the first mention because I thought he was contradicting himself by asking me for a video (and so trying to get out of having to post one myself, yet still get his input) and being ironic with the word "courtesy", and then the second one was just to give you credit because you posted the link about Merry/Serious and Far Draft and I were discussing Sol's potential type and that information was helpful. The first was a bit cheeky, but the second one was meant to be harmless. I'm fine walking away from this too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    Lol. Nope. I actually never had you on ignore at all lol. When you asked me not to talk to you, that's exactly what I did. I stopped talking to you. If you don't wish for me to talk to you now, then don't say anything. And what I said now, in this thread to Ave is the first thing I think I've even mentioned about you because I see you doing the whole ridiculous thing all over again and again. Being a little bitch and then demanding to be ignored lol. Play your little games if you wish. But, no, not a single person HAS to put you on ignore, and nobody has to refrain from talking to you or about you, you have no power over any of this. If I see you crying about everyone else's drama when you're the one stirring it up, I'll say something. So, don't do that if you don't want me to say anything.
    YOU ARE ON IGNORE AND PUT ME ON IGNORE, IF YOU BREAK THE RULES AGAIN, TALKING TO ME AND ENGAGING ME IN ANY WAY OR FORM I'M GOING TO REPORT YOU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    YOU ARE ON IGNORE AND PUT ME ON IGNORE, IF YOU BREAK THE RULES AGAIN, TALKING TO ME AND ENGAGING ME IN ANY WAY OR FORM I'M GOING TO REPORT YOU
    Are you dense? Nevermind, the answer is yes. No rules are being broken. Nobody is required to put anyone else on ignore unless there is an ignore order issued by the admin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue View Post
    (aka Soldemort ).
    This is good lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    Are you dense? Nevermind, the answer is yes. No rules are being broken. Nobody is required to put anyone else on ignore unless there is an ignore order issued by the admin.
    what a good way to embarrass yourself.
    3.7. Mutual Antagonism: There are some situations where mutual antagonism leads to conflict which disrupt the forum. In these situations involved users should use the ignore function and attempt to not escalate situations. Failure to do this will result in the issuing of a Ignore Order, to the antagonistic parties.
    The ignore order is AFTER if you fail to comply with ignoring me, is that what you want right? Then I'll report you so you'll get the order you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    You're not understanding. At all. I told you already that I won't talk to you if you're not talking to me. It's not like I'm following you around harassing you or something. Don't speak to me, and I won't speak to you. No problem right? However, if I see that YOU are escalating situations and causing problems, there's a pretty decent chance I'll say something. So, like I said, just don't do that lol. It's not like I want to be in some sort of drawn-out whatever this crap is.
    How can you expect to say something without being drawn in lol

    You’re totes (/Bertrand voice) into this

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    @Bertrand If you ever read this, I just thought of an insult towards you even though you’re now long gone unfortunately: “Rapunzel”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue View Post
    I'm not sure why you think my last post just now was an attack. I don't "constantly" discuss your type with He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named (aka Soldemort ). One time I agreed with him, and then when you made yourself clear that you didn't want to talk about it, I backed off because I felt bad, and I believe I haven't brought up anything about your type since, as far as I can remember. If this still reads like an attack, it isn't meant to be.



    Ok, I won't mention you again. I only did in the first mention because I thought he was contradicting himself by asking me for a video (and so trying to get out of having to post one myself, yet still get his input) and being ironic with the word "courtesy", and then the second one was just to give you credit because you posted the link about Merry/Serious and Far Draft and I were discussing Sol's potential type and that information was helpful. The first was a bit cheeky, but the second one was meant to be harmless. I'm fine walking away from this too.
    Ok well, I was already in a very vulnerable place to begin with so I am not blaming this on someone else entirely, due to being horribly abused constantly and not knowing I was, which has put me in what looks like trauma mode, made me behave like someone I have never before in order to deal with the abuse because I couldn't understand it, and destroyed my sense of self...which Sol is more or less exploiting even if unintentionally and manipulating me even worse, attacking me, invalidating me, not respecting my boundaries at all, etc., and molding me into what he wants me to be, which puts me more in trauma mode and affects my sense of self. I know my type but the more time I spent on here the worse my psychological health became, maybe that's my fault. And I feel confused, upset, scared etc., and have a hard time dealing with it. My friend who knows about the abuse she said..well I won't say it here. That she couldn't have even handled it, it was really horrible, naturally it's going to impact me or how people who do not know me, perceive me.

    Not your fault, I am not saying that, but just clearing it up since you said you "agreed with him."

    Anyways, yeah, this is overwhelming for me, so walking away is fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    You're not understanding. At all. I told you already that I won't talk to you if you're not talking to me. It's not like I'm following you around harassing you or something. Don't speak to me, and I won't speak to you. No problem right? However, if I see that YOU are escalating situations and causing problems, there's a pretty decent chance I'll say something. So, like I said, just don't do that lol. It's not like I want to be in some sort of drawn-out whatever this crap is.

    You are the one who's not understanding. I'm not causing any problems. You do. You seem to have a problem for respecting boundaries. I don't know who you think you are, but you have no right for going after me (or anyone else for that matter, such as that other girl) over any single thing I do or say over any kind of issue that's not related to you. I don't care how much you want to play as the cop or the paladin. I'm not going to go any further into this. Go to seek for someone who agreeds in playing sick aggressor/victim games with you.

    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    I expect to say something and then everyone is just like, "Yeah, you're SO right, we'll immediately see things your way!" haha. Ok, not really, but idk, I just say things sometimes without much thinking about what I'm doing and next thing I know I'm in a week-long argument.
    Maybe your low self esteem is the one who's driving you to seek desperately for my attention, right? Since I was offering you to mutual ignore each other and you can't manage yourself to comply with it.
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    At least this drama is very informative from a typing perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    At least this drama is very informative from a typing perspective.
    This seems to be SLI vs LSI, or LSI vs SLI. Not spy vs spy, but close.

    My LSI ex-GF once met my SLI ex-wife. It was by accident, I certainly didn't plan it. They both came over to see me and met each other in the front yard while I was out. I don't think they knew at first who the other person was. When I arrived, they were both talking away about the weather and then me, I guess, with neither of them aware that they were quasi-identicals. I arrived and introduced them and then they each realized who the woman they had been talking to was.

    Each of them later told me (I like to stay friends with the people I've been close to) that the other woman was a bad person. A problematic human being. Lol. I like them both, and really, they are both terrific in their own ways (but neither is an ESI). They were just quasi's to each other.

    Smilingeyes said that each quasi always seems to feel that they have less to lose in a fight than the other quasi. This makes for some unresolvable arguments.

    I will confess that my own quasi-identicals are usually perfectly decent human beings, but I also sometimes want to strangle them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    At least this drama is very informative from a typing perspective.
    I like observing how different types have different methods of shit-stirring and handling people. It’s way easier concretized over text than in irl.

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    So, according the genius Squark, I'm able to go and start talking shit about her, as she was just doing with me, and she has no right to talk to me back unless I quote her. What an immature mentality and degraded self esteem someone needs to have for finding some pleasure and entertainment in such unproductive primitive task. Pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    So, according the genius Squark, I'm able to go and start talking shit about her, as she was just doing with me, and she has no right to talk to me back unless I quote her. What a immature mentality and degraded self esteem mentality someone needs to have for finding some pleasure and entertainment in such unproductive primitive task. Pass.
    It’s okay to be completely retarded, so long as it doesn’t go against any RuLeZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    It’s okay to be completely retarded, so long as it doesn’t go against any RuLeZ.
    I agree, tho, she's against the rules for not accepting to mutual ignore each other as should be done and giving place to degrading games with ppl who's not interested in play along with her.

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    This is reminiscent of Sol’s form of harassment.

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