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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebula View Post
    I do think you raise many good points here. Personally, I spent perhaps the first 20+ years of my life being rather impractical, living more in fantasy than reality through play, video games, art, movies, etc. Then I took this interest in being more practical and started denying myself the only things I were ever naturally good at. I tried to get my head out of the clouds and books and live more for the moment, and all that crap. Then it dawned on me that the very people I was trying to be more like couldn't do the things I could do. Why was I trying to do the things they are naturally good at? I shouldn't really be focusing my time with such things, unless I was actually interested.

    I do see where the line is blurred for many people. I actually advocate that most people don't really have a type because they are kind of in the middle of the dichotomies. It is the ones that are solidly within each dichotomous camp that form the basis for our overgeneralizations. I think my own thinking and feeling are close to one another, while my N and S aren't very close. I still S when I S, but the overall tendency is to not S. Many people use both relatively equally, but I wouldn't say they are sensors or intuitives. Maybe they are sentuitives? Or Intuensors?

    So here you have Socionics. The theory says people both can and can't master weaker functions, depending on the opinion. You need a dual to do certain things for you, but heaven forbid be told you can't do something!
    Yes heaven forbid people are tired of stupid, inaccurate stereotypes that don’t represent them at all and falsely limit them and their image while they’re trying to find themselves and discuss personality and personal development with others on the internet where it’s hard enough to communicate and get your full persona across in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebula View Post
    I do think you raise many good points here. Personally, I spent perhaps the first 20+ years of my life being rather impractical, living more in fantasy than reality through play, video games, art, movies, etc. Then I took this interest in being more practical and started denying myself the only things I were ever naturally good at. I tried to get my head out of the clouds and books and live more for the moment, and all that crap. Then it dawned on me that the very people I was trying to be more like couldn't do the things I could do. Why was I trying to do the things they are naturally good at? I shouldn't really be focusing my time with such things, unless I was actually interested.

    I do see where the line is blurred for many people. I actually advocate that most people don't really have a type because they are kind of in the middle of the dichotomies. It is the ones that are solidly within each dichotomous camp that form the basis for our overgeneralizations. I think my own thinking and feeling are close to one another, while my N and S aren't very close. I still S when I S, but the overall tendency is to not S. Many people use both relatively equally, but I wouldn't say they are sensors or intuitives. Maybe they are sentuitives? Or Intuensors?

    So here you have Socionics. The theory says people both can and can't master weaker functions, depending on the opinion. You need a dual to do certain things for you, but heaven forbid be told you can't do something!
    I personally see that whole type business as "people who do focus on this and this is likely to care about this/be more blinded by that/might need help with those" type of shortcuts, if that makes sense. Sort of like stereotypes, but my main way of going is, if I pick up something about someone who reminds me anything related to any typology, I check it in with them directly or phrase it in more "daily lingo" way if I think that they likely wouldn't be interested in personality theories. If they confirm that that's the case, great, one more real life observation noted down, as well as I know yet another detail about that person to know how to approach them/how they might differ at their way of thinking to find middle ground easier if any trouble happens, than as rigid and 100% dogmatic knowledge.

    I would agree that real people are rarely as type profile level neurotic for most typologies than just Socionics, as well as the culture where the typologist(?) lives in inevitably leads to bias on certain mannerisms they might not realize that is more related to socially learned/adopted behaviour than something as intrinsic for the person, or it is intrinsic but in one case is fully allowed and encouraged to develop while in another devalued by the culture and makes one question worth of their own talents as you mentioned above.

    So basically, to me, typology is a tool to see and share patterns in human behaviour and thinking, that is discussed, showed personal anecdotes for from others or refuted by others of supposedly same category that is talked about, trying to connect how and why some things fit and why some doesn't, for the sake of understanding my way of thinking and being better as well as get a better picture of other side too, to get the discussion going on about different points of views so I can both personally grow further and become a more tolerant person.

    If one suggestion is wrong or it doesn't apply for that specific case, that's fine. Things can be always refined and at some point I realized that there really is no "completely objective" level of "The Collective Truth TM" a human can reach, and being an organic being myself, as much as I would like to think myself as someone acting rationally and "according to what makes sense", at the end of the day, I am still just as swayed by my emotions and experiences as any other, so no need for a piss race over who is "better" at being "objectively logical" as it is in our current time, something that seems to be socially valued in most countries, a trait of "superiority" though in all honesty most people are just fed up with ones boasting that while being hypocritically unaware of their own subjectivity.

    So I would say your point on your thinking and feeling being closer, might be just self awareness over how subjective at the end of the day really is- Introtim/Introverted Thinking, Subjective Thinking, by definition. And yeah, most people who achieve some level of self awareness probably are more well rounded in general, but I see type as something they are used to picking as their way of dealing with the world as their main method, using that mainframe of narrative they stick with throughout their lives, which can change/get altered by experiences, but usually as they get older, with their neuroplasticity settling in to being set/less flexible, it is probably things that actually physically affect their brain or some rather extreme experience that would shake their entire world view based on all their past experiences and thinking patterns they developed until then, so at the end, typology is useful for general purposes if you use it to pick up certain patterns in people rather than expecting them to act like extreme/caricaturized examples that are in most type profiles, is my view of typology stuff in general, if that makes sense?

    And I would say that people can get better at things, but again, as they get older it often gets harder to change their thinking patterns/to develop new connections so compared to someone who was honing on that pathway longer, also for some things added with perhaps genetic tendencies, they are unlikely to get as good as such people/get better than them in general, which applies for type weakspots as well. So they can develop, but it is not something they are as likely to marvel at/do as naturally unless they pull themselves through some extreme change in personality/perception/even perhaps personal history they have- everything would need to be reframed and retrained, and that's some massive load with often little to no map even telling you how to do them, so I find type changing sort of things unlikely, but do believe that people can learn circumvent around their weak points/to get at least some competence at them via trial and error to the point of where they can survive, if they need to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebula View Post
    I do think you raise many good points here. Personally, I spent perhaps the first 20+ years of my life being rather impractical, living more in fantasy than reality through play, video games, art, movies, etc. Then I took this interest in being more practical and started denying myself the only things I were ever naturally good at. I tried to get my head out of the clouds and books and live more for the moment, and all that crap. Then it dawned on me that the very people I was trying to be more like couldn't do the things I could do. Why was I trying to do the things they are naturally good at? I shouldn't really be focusing my time with such things, unless I was actually interested.

    I do see where the line is blurred for many people. I actually advocate that most people don't really have a type because they are kind of in the middle of the dichotomies. It is the ones that are solidly within each dichotomous camp that form the basis for our overgeneralizations. I think my own thinking and feeling are close to one another, while my N and S aren't very close. I still S when I S, but the overall tendency is to not S. Many people use both relatively equally, but I wouldn't say they are sensors or intuitives. Maybe they are sentuitives? Or Intuensors?

    So here you have Socionics. The theory says people both can and can't master weaker functions, depending on the opinion. You need a dual to do certain things for you, but heaven forbid be told you can't do something!
    I see the blurred lines too, so much - people end up like huge random messes of functional nonsense.

    The truth is life asks all functions out of everyone depending on circumstances. One cannot just "ego function" their whole life, dual or not, and even with a dual, the duo is not stitched together, there will be time where both will have to use their weak functions while stranded out in the world. Having a dual around is a way to learn by witnessing, imo, and there is no need to fuck them to learn from them.
    Anyhoo, I think that a person has function preferences at least, and that by being very often in situation that calls for their weak functions can make them pretty decent at emulating said weak functions, though they will not grow from it, more likely fall into despair.
    I have found that there is a sense of "right" in learning to put oneself in more situation that require one's prefered functions, doesn't mean one suddenly cannot "weak function" anymore, though it seem preferable to leave that to other people who actually are better at it than one, and focus on what one is better at.

    Everyone has feelings, has a logic, a need for imagination and possibilities, can enjoy endulging in the senses... it's human.

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    By a photo and a behavior mb EIE.
    Types himself as LIE, what is close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    My logic definitely has its bounds, I have noted. I get very nice ideas how to think about things but then I also end up noticing that I might need someone with bit more precision if it gets purely formalized. That is to say that my logic is foremost approximate and selective with good precision.
    Nice way of saying im not LII then going to say ur LII anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Nice way of saying im not LII then going to say ur LII anyway
    You should meet Type Police yourself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    You should meet Type Police yourself.


    wtf is this shit

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    For the record

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    wtf is this shit
    Something similar what should happen to you. Just check up your diapers and you'll find Se ego poop there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    Something similar what should happen to you. Just check up your diapers and you'll find Se ego poop there.
    But if im Se ego i wont have diapers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    But if im Se ego i wont have diapers?
    Just because you have Se ego does not exclude you not having numerous medical problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    Just because you have Se ego does not exclude you not having numerous medical problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    @Karatos LSE-Te
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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    wtf is this shit
    mb your contrary (SEI)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Fe valued he is



    mb your contrary (SEI)



    Holy Inquisition will save you all


    Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
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    Im ESI now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Im ESI now?
    SEE. The contrary to SEI is SEE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    SEE. The contrary to SEI is SEE.
    but he typed me ILE man

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    the reply on the touchy pm

    @Viktor
    your mind and soul are black
    the reason you fool yourself and others about your type
    and behave inadequately, in general

    but there is always a hope that you'll accept the light of the truth and become some lighter inside

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    the reply on the touchy pm

    @Viktor
    your mind and soul are black
    the reason you fool yourself and others about your type
    and behave inadequately, in general

    but there is always a hope that you'll accept the light of the truth and become some lighter inside

    wbr
    Ok man, fucking show me the ight,, I don't care what type I am. What type am I? What is the trusth?

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    @Viktor
    there is nothing bad to be not SLE. you'll adopt to this idea. or you have higher risk for inappropriate use of Socionics

    you seem too emotional and having the lack of reason to be T. the SLE I know IRL are more serious people than you
    you behave like a teenager. it's how I often perceive F types, having base T
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    @Viktor
    there is nothing bad to be not SLE. you'll adopt to this idea. or you have higher risk for inappropriate use of Socionics

    you seem too emotional and having the lack of reason to be T. the SLE I know IRL are more serious people than you
    you behave like a teenager. it's how I often perceive F types, having base T
    Ok thanks for your feedback

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    I find Sol's criteria interestingly biased. For example being emotional [if it even serves the criteria for type determination as anyone can have their emotions out of whack and same goes for being argumentative]. I can say that people have said that they have no clue about my emotional life as it seems to exists somewhere else which is very far away from any sort of direct contact with other mortals.
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    @eko
    You seems communicated with Viktor IRL. You may add about the possibility of he to have F type.
    I see his behavior on the forum as significantly differing from what T types are. But, generally, I prefer to have also nonverbal to be sure, what needs a video for better results.
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    I can confirm that when I talked with Viktor he was writing poems, love letters and wanted to hug via audio. He also consumed entire box of tissues while he was reviewing his love life. He also mentioned that 1+1=3 or 4 if he feels so. He also said that if Sol had ovaries (which could be the case) he would have huge crush on that person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    I can confirm that when I talked with Viktor he was writing poems, love letters and wanted to hug via audio. He also consumed entire box of tissues while he was reviewing his love life. He also mentioned that 1+1=3 or 4 if he feels so. He also said that if Sol had ovaries (which could be the case) he would have huge crush on that person.

    ...

    or maybe not
    These SLE's...... So sentimental.

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    I want Viktor to sing me a ballad while playing Dark Souls now.
    "Time is my horse that stays always my own,
    A helmet’s mask-visor – the grate on a hole,
    The walls are my armor that’s made of the stone,
    My permanent shield is the door’s iron fold.

    Time! I desire to speed your hooves’ rattle!
    My stony armor is heavy to rise on!
    Death, when we’ve come, will help me by the saddle;
    I will dismount and rise up my visor."
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    This is funny.


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    Viktor seems Fi PoLR and not ILE, so... SLE

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    My thread lol
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    My thread lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Hi Maritsa! Best thread ever!
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Te-egos are all soft and cute. Just an observation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mio Q View Post
    Te-egos are all soft and cute. Just an observation.
    ? lol they are?
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    ? lol they are?
    Deep down inside, we are.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ave View Post
    Deep down inside, we are.
    Yes deep down past a lot of things haha
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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