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    Quote Originally Posted by A Moderator View Post
    What do you think he is?
    IDK, he has changed of type and quadra many types. Intuitive is my guess, but I doubt IEE. He seems to have a predilection for sensors, especially females.

    I've been thinking in two possibilities…

    One is that he could be an intuitive logical type who's bored and trolling while trying to prove himself that he can defend almost any cause and successfully convince an audience (he's studying laws), and for that matter he's using this forum as practice field, in which case I think his provocative attitude to get emotive reactions from outside could fit in the Oldham style disorder for ENTP.

    My second guess (if he's not trolling neither acting that way on purpose but being his true self), is NF mb beta.
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    Bert is hard one. Anyways, his style is overflowing more than crystallizing and therefore ego is very unlikely. Although HP cog style LII and SLE might produce similar word salad if they wanted it really badly.

    Not even severely schizophrenic CD cog thinker could pull it out. ILE's and LSI's are very quite terse people when it comes to language. Condensation is usually taken extreme level where it is flowing logic and all the "facts" are stripped out. ILE's might make it lively with little bit of drama (as interactive snippets that takes place in text and not describing it).
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    I think Im a EIE in model G. Aki is right, female sensors are hot (this is almost true by definition for a straight male intuitive, so hopefully its not viewed as weird or crass). in real life im a little different but I try to be honest on the forums, its just a slightly distorted view because of the medium, and its just not just me and the medium, the entire environment is subject to this, so like every other poster feeds into it too. think how strange it is historically to have this virtual forum for interaction where people can say whatever almost without consequence and the central topic is some arcane corner of psychology. im not saying this to make an excuse for any bad behavior of mine, Im saying this to hopefully point out what could be considered bizarre behavior is not that weird if you just look at the context. it may be weird compared to some of the lizard men who frequent this place but then you gotta also compare me to all the banned psychos too. in that light I may be off to one side but its not as extreme as it may seem
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freya View Post
    Why is Bertrand considered to be ethical type? I have seen him being quite rude and impolate around the forum showing lack of emotional intelligence
    cause the logical intelligence he lacks some more

    also his F is not so bad in my Te perception

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    I think Im a EIE in model G. Aki is right, female sensors are hot (this is almost true by definition for a straight male intuitive, so hopefully its not viewed as weird or crass). in real life im a little different but I try to be honest on the forums, its just a slightly distorted view because of the medium, and its just not just me and the medium, the entire environment is subject to this, so like every other poster feeds into it too. think how strange it is historically to have this virtual forum for interaction where people can say whatever almost without consequence and the central topic is some arcane corner of psychology. im not saying this to make an excuse for any bad behavior of mine, Im saying this to hopefully point out what could be considered bizarre behavior is not that weird if you just look at the context. it may be weird compared to some of the lizard men who frequent this place but then you gotta also compare me to all the banned psychos too. in that light I may be off to one side but its not as extreme as it may seem
    I'm not convinced yet, upload a video.

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    you misunderstand, I thought I was helping by giving my 2 cents, but Im not trying to convince anyone, since in any case most people don't subscribe to model G or understand it anyway. I don't expect mass approval from the group and honestly making a video to get their approval feels beneath me and a waste of my time. my counter proposal is people should just learn model G and forget discussing my type in the meanwhile

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    I do think you are EIE, Bertrand. You seem kind of scatterbrained, but also sure of your convictions. Yet you are not entirely unreasonable.

    I actually like reading your posts, but I don't always agree with your conclusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    you misunderstand, I thought I was helping by giving my 2 cents, but Im not trying to convince anyone, since in any case most people don't subscribe to model G or understand it anyway. I don't expect mass approval from the group and honestly making a video to get their approval feels beneath me and a waste of my time. my counter proposal is people should just learn model G and forget discussing my type in the meanwhile

    I don't care.

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    model G is for winners anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freya View Post
    Why is Bertrand considered to be ethical type? I have seen him being quite rude and impolate around the forum showing lack of emotional intelligence rather than its strength. But maybe that's just my limited experience with him and he has actually showed the softer side of his persona. I'd type him SLI to be honest.
    Being rude doesn't mean someone isn't ethical, or SLI, especially if they are doing it intentionally to get a reaction. SLIs are more so neglectful of emotional impact but they do try to be unobtrusive and not deliberately mess with people as Bertrand does.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aki View Post
    IDK, he has changed of type and quadra many types. Intuitive is my guess, but I doubt IEE. He seems to have a predilection for sensors, especially females.

    I've been thinking in two possibilities…

    One is that he could be an intuitive logical type who's bored and trolling while trying to prove himself that he can defend almost any cause and successfully convince an audience (he's studying laws), and for that matter he's using this forum as practice field, in which case I think his provocative attitude to get emotive reactions from outside could fit in the Oldham style disorder for ENTP.

    My second guess (if he's not trolling neither acting that way on purpose but being his true self), is NF mb beta.
    This is one of the more accurate posts I've seen regarding Bertrand's personality...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Being rude doesn't mean someone isn't ethical, or SLI, especially if they are doing it intentionally to get a reaction. SLIs are more so neglectful of emotional impact but they do try to be unobtrusive and not deliberately mess with people as Bertrand does.



    This is one of the more accurate posts I've seen regarding Bertrand's personality...
    Tbh I've never seen @Bertrand as trying to mess with people deliberately. He seems like he just states what he thinks. If people have a problem with that, that doesn't mean he's trolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avebury View Post
    It was my self-typing for some time.

    I now think it's wrong, however.

    Why do you suggest it?
    Avebury, you seem like a clear Te/Fi quadra imo.

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    I think I'm EII-Ne. Creative subtype. Or maybe not. Idk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    model G is for winners anyway
    I think secondary ego model [mirage sift] seems more reasonable in terms of social roles but G's energy attributes might be reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    Tbh I've never seen @Bertrand as trying to mess with people deliberately. He seems like he just states what he thinks. If people have a problem with that, that doesn't mean he's trolling.
    So he messes with people un-deliberately?

    Maybe he really is just crazy and narcissistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singu View Post
    So he messes with people un-deliberately?

    Maybe he really is just crazy and narcissistic.
    Doesn't seem like it at all to me. How do you come up with these judgments of him?

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    this is the problem with rejecting socionics its like one can't escape the bubble and is trapped assuming everyone should behave according to this or that overly simplistic norm. you can call that bubble science but it doesn't make the problem go away

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    Doesn't seem like it at all to me. How do you come up with these judgments of him?
    If he un-deliberately messes with people, then that's pretty crazy.

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    what can I say I've got an aura and it turns undead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    what can I say I've got an aura and it turns undead
    Lol! Also, "bubble science"

    RA Wilson called them reality tunnels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    you misunderstand, I thought I was helping by giving my 2 cents, but Im not trying to convince anyone, since in any case most people don't subscribe to model G or understand it anyway. I don't expect mass approval from the group and honestly making a video to get their approval feels beneath me and a waste of my time. my counter proposal is people should just learn model G and forget discussing my type in the meanwhile
    You have a three part style of construction (ethical judgement -> ethical elaboration -> introduce factual information/jargon, or the reverse order). You don't move directly from one premise to the next to the next, but tend to prolong each and have a central theme you return to.

    Compare that to the structure in my response to you, which suggests a binary, if...then style.

    Premise -> reasoning. Premise -> reasoning. Juxtaposition -> reasoning. etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by hag 2 View Post
    the stupidity expressed by people opining on bert's type hurts me. but bert seems to be having fun, so continue
    it seems like hag2 evolved in bert2

    Last edited by Hope; 10-04-2018 at 03:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aki View Post
    it seems like hag2 evolved in bert2
    Lol. Appropriate here:

    "It is entirely possible to make a claim that is false yet argue with logical coherency for that claim, just as it is possible to make a claim that is true and justify it with various fallacies and poor arguments."



    I always bear the above in mind when engaged in politics...or Socionics.

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    What type does Bertrand think he is? With that many posts, it's probably right by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coeruleum View Post
    What type does Bertrand think he is? With that many posts, it's probably right by now.
    Doesn't really work like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by coeruleum View Post
    What type does Bertrand think he is? With that many posts, it's probably right by now.
    Ironically self typing attempts often follow the opposite rule: the more information you are exposed to, the less certain you will become, because a lot of what you read will contradict itself.

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    I think bertie is SEE 3w4

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    I don’t know much about model G, and Bertrand has some of the qualities I expect with EIE, and lacks some I associate specifically with Fe, but I appreciate the method he’s opted for, which I take to be “choose a particular approach, type yourself within it.”

    But the real issue is, can model G make me a T type? If not, what use it it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    I think bertie is SEE 3w4
    Everyone's an SEE 3w4 until proven otherwise.


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    Or ESI.

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    @golden why do you want to be a T type?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Doesn't really work like that
    Though...I should say that EIE is one of the only two reasonable typings for Bertrand. I am a bit surprised he is raising it as an option now after coming up with the absurd typings of the past, albeit "in Model G".

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Moderator View Post
    @golden why do you want to be a T type?
    I’m usually trying to improve my knowledge and understanding, but when a T person of reasonable IQ comes along, they can simplify my tangled thoughts. I’d like to be able to do that for myself. It hasn’t happened yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by golden View Post
    I’m usually trying to improve my knowledge and understanding, but when a T person of reasonable IQ comes along, they can simplify my tangled thoughts. I’d like to be able to do that for myself. It hasn’t happened yet.
    Is it -dual seeking, golden?

    ...and yeah, the T is more desireable from the F side, or something like that, as F is more desireable from the T side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    Is it -dual seeking, golden?

    ...and yeah, the T is more desireable from the F side, or something like that, as F is more desireable from the T side.
    It might be, though I like T so much that I am okay with Te also.

    What about F looks desirable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Though...I should say that EIE is one of the only two reasonable typings for Bertrand. I am a bit surprised he is raising it as an option now after coming up with the absurd typings of the past, albeit "in Model G".
    Could you explain why you see it this way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by golden View Post
    I’m usually trying to improve my knowledge and understanding, but when a T person of reasonable IQ comes along, they can simplify my tangled thoughts. I’d like to be able to do that for myself. It hasn’t happened yet.
    Thinking with either Te or Ti can become pretty complex and resource consuming to express.

    Also, Ts often have a habit of repressing their emotions, which can lead to skewed thinking because no matter who you are, the irrational factors of being human guide the intellect.

    So, I'd say, since you're more likely to be honest with yourself about your emotions and biases, you have the hardware necessary to detangle your thoughts (or, at the very least, a certain edge).

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden View Post
    It might be, though I like T so much that I am okay with Te also.

    What about F looks desirable?
    That's funny. I like F so much I'm OK with Fe, too.

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