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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    I type to concrete types mostly by videos. Not many people put them to be typed. Introverts do it lesser. Among introverts EII are only 1/8. Also mb EII need lesser the help in typing, as Socionics is mostly about Fi and Ne - their ego functions. This reduces the chances I could typed someone to EII.

    Aki may put her video. Mb I'll type to EII her. Mb she's just very strange EII because of nontypes factors.
    ok, well maybe that means you shouldnt type people as much as you do before youve seen the people in action
    im not protecting this person i dont know anything about them but it just looks funny when you immedietly discard te people typed EII here because they act slightly rude, or whatever it is you pick up on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Life is tough for LSE's.
    it's reciprocal

    > If you spend the slightest amount of time looking for Fi-doms, you can find these types and anything in between.

    I noticed ESI in quantity in public places in recent time. Possible EII saw too. One of them yesterday on a street, for example. Young, but tired, not so pretty and without good dress to pay her more attention. EII have lesser of that open sexual appeal to attract the attention of men, seems they afraid to be provoking. Also EII are lesser likely to be where I may see them clearly. For example, among sellers EII are among the least common. If I'd had near me for longer time EII woman of a close age to tune on her, then I'd easier noticed them in public places.
    On youtube I found many EII and ESI among bloggers, among actors.

    > I felt that I was pretty far outside of my comfort zone when around Fi-doms and therefore kept them at a distance.

    I feel good dealing with base Fi women as they look friendly and decent. While your type I'd check by a video. I noticed some your differences from me relating to T/F region.

    > What helped me a lot with dating ESI's was to take very small steps forward.

    Not all ESI are such. Enneagram sx leading mb other.
    But for most or in the comparision with other types this mb correct. For stable and more significant relations you need to be liked as the friend, at 1st. This needs time. ESI are harder to trust people - they smile, friendly on the surface, but meanwhile analyse who you are to allow you to become closer and to value the relations seriously. Even if you'll become closer, like get a sex, - they still think who you are. They'll may break relations with people they do not understand good still, - they need more time for this than other types. LSE/LIE are infantile in relations, for example, - if she smiles you, you got a sex and no evident conflicts for a couple of monthes - they may quickly think "it's the love of my life" and this in their heads means the higher level of relations, while ESI in those situation may still suspect the shit in you and value such relations much lower. I'd say it takes a year of your "checking" so they'd assigned you a status "my man" - you may notice this change as ESI accidentally begins to approach you with the new strenght and offer a lot more for good and long relations.

    > I enjoyed duality's benefits (mental comfort, shared values, etc.)

    my main benefit is emotional. base Fi inspire me to feel the life as lesser shitty. also they show the example that there are good normal people which do not wish to compete or have other irritating or wrong behavior - you feel they follow the rules of good behavior, besides are pleasant. near *II I also feel calmer. the positive in more degree relates to women

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    Here are some Filatova pictures
    you trust too high to Filatova's typing accuracy and to impressions gotten just from a single photo
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by eko View Post
    ok, well maybe that means you shouldnt type people as much as you do before youve seen the people in action
    The said gave the answer on your question about why there are no EII women I'd noticed on the forum. They just may more rarely place videos by the possible reasons I described.
    While in the example of Aki it's known enough to understand the good possibility she's not EII. As it's easier than to say the concrete type. For the last year I've checked and rejected with assurance several ones wannabe-EIIs based on their talking, photos/videos. In two cases those were typed as ESI, what is very close. With other doubtful types in profiles I argued too. Some people have agreed with me to change it there on more possible by my opinion.

    > but it just looks funny when you immedietly discard te people typed EII here because they act slightly rude

    because they act significantly closer for common behavior of other types, what allows to make assured assumption about other type
    it was not a single episode of being "slightly rude" and was not about being rude only. I saw her behavior befor and the general situation points to good possibility of other type
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post

    Aki may put her video. Mb I'll type to EII her. Mb she's just very strange EII because of nontypes factors.
    Sorry Sol, I'm married. Ours would be impossible <\3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aki View Post
    Sorry Sol, I'm married.
    Sorry, if I made the wrong impression about my intentions to marry you what have leaded you to offer the inclusion in the friends list. As you saw, I have there several wives already.

    I hope to get your video for the memory of our never started romance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crAck View Post
    Seemingly equating LSE and ESE's response here, I'm not so sure.

    The premise is basically there is a kindredness between S-T, and N-F. So the LSE may be more prone to hit back with their S, while the ESE their N.
    I don't see any way the model allows for that kind of asymmetry. Part of my point here is that looking at the dichotomies is very misleading if you don't tie it back to the IM elements.

    *btw hotel, are you D DCNH?
    I don't really buy into DCNH. When I looked at it several years ago, C made the most sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by crAck View Post
    I agree, when taking golden's quote out of the context of this being about Sol, what you said: Agree.

    However, when we consider it's Sol, and definitionally Te Base has 'Limiting Ti', Sol marking his line in the sand and being firm with it perfectly fits LSE. That is: Sol claims to be a typing master, so because he has Limiting Ti, he's just not open to critical analysis.
    This is a misconception of how Ti ignoring works.

    The ignoring function is "ignored", so to speak, because it conflicts with the leading function. For Ti ignoring this exactly means that Te leads reject the kind of filtering attitude towards new facts that Ti has - Te prefers instead to receive all facts in a "neutral" manner. This filtering, when coupled with Ne vulnerable manifests as rigidity.

    This doesn't get into how Te is definitionally "external order" aka "right - or wrong - Logical way to do things", which is Sol's Behavior 101.
    I don't recall ever in my life seeing that definition of Te in socionics sources. Are you sure you aren't using MBTI or Jungian sources? Socionics Te is traditionally called logic of pragmatism or something similar. It has nothing to do with "order" as a concept. Order is Ti.

    Quote Originally Posted by golden View Post
    I can see what you’re saying, but I’m not sure why the LSE would respond with Ne when faced with Ni, versus respond with something else or just ... not respond. Could you explain why? I do think that people can compensate in general for their polr with the HA, just based on observation, but I’m not sure how this works in the specific instance where they are confronted with the polr IE.
    You mean specifically for LSEs? If someone presents a skeptical attitude towards new possibilities or ideas the LSE is likely to respond with "naive" positivity or reasons why "everything will work out just fine" - the polar opposite of LSIs who are prone to find doom and gloom in the unknown.

    We respond with the conflicting element because it applies to the same domain. Of course, if you don't feel the need to defend your actions / understanding to someone else then you don't have to respond to them. But people often do, and the mobilizing function can be particularly headstrong, so to speak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    I don't see any way the model allows for that kind of asymmetry. Part of my point here is that looking at the dichotomies is very misleading if you don't tie it back to the IM elements.



    I don't really buy into DCNH. When I looked at it several years ago, C made the most sense.



    This is a misconception of how Ti ignoring works.

    The ignoring function is "ignored", so to speak, because it conflicts with the leading function. For Ti ignoring this exactly means that Te leads reject the kind of filtering attitude towards new facts that Ti has - Te prefers instead to receive all facts in a "neutral" manner. This filtering, when coupled with Ne vulnerable manifests as rigidity.



    I don't recall ever in my life seeing that definition of Te in socionics sources. Te is traditionally called logic of pragmatism or something similar. It has nothing to do with "order" as a concept. Order is Ti.



    You mean specifically for LSEs? If someone presents a skeptical attitude towards new possibilities or ideas the LSE is likely to respond with "naive" positivity or reasons why "everything will work out just fine" - the polar opposite of LSIs who are prone to find doom and gloom in the unknown.

    We respond with the conflicting element because it applies to the same domain. Of course, if you don't feel the need to defend your goals / actions / understanding to someone else then you don't have to respond to them. But people often do, and the mobilizing function can be particularly headstrong, so to speak.
    actually Te does filter new information by trying to find out the credibility of the source, while Ti ignores the source

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    if you think of LSEs as "naively positive" thats more a function of a very specific perspective and not the perspective of socionics at large. thats the problem with people like bush who makes their own models, the temptation to reify your own bias through "socionics" is incredibly strong. presumably he doesn't realize he's doing it and just assumes this is reality. to him LSEs are exactly that, naively positive. for anyone with their head not up their own ass though that is not quite right. its like in support of one's own error one pulls out a chart and demonstrates the error in action. there's always a weird form of passive aggression coming off of LIIs when they defend themselves in this way, and God help you if they actually get some semblance of real power to back up their asinine circuit with. *adjusts glasses* "you see its all been figured out already--heads I win, tails you lose. its perfectly logical. refer to the chart if confused." *smug look*-- the solution is really for SLE to come in and give them a swirly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    actually Te does filter new information by trying to find out the credibility of the source, while Ti ignores the source
    That's Fi that does the filtering there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    That's Fi that does the filtering there.
    Fi doesnt do logical filtering idiot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Fi doesnt do logical filtering idiot
    Filtering by credibility needn't be logical, idiot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    Filtering by credibility needn't be logical, idiot
    Yes it does, credibility is a Te thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Yes it does, credibility is a Te thing
    Good luck proving that credibility is a Te thing.

    Filtering is still an introverted way of dealing with information.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    Good luck proving that credibility is a Te thing.

    Filtering is still an introverted way of dealing with information.....
    Te likes to get facts from outside sources. Hmmm outside sources... credibility... you put the link with ur ne polr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Te likes to get facts from outside sources. Hmmm outside sources... credibility... you put the link with ur ne polr
    Self types as ENTP. Yet:

    Does not bother to use the correct punctuation and syntax in a secondary language as this would take too long and why bother to observe anal-retentive rules that restrict personal expression anyway. Makes simplistic binary assumption about the nature of information gathering, assuming that all Ti knowledge is internally derived without any reference to external connections (which would be like living in a cave without any light).

    Weak Ti indicated. Most likely a Victim of some sort due to his stated attraction for MILFs. This is typical of the low Sensing F types, who wish to be sexually dominated by older, more experienced partners

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spermatozoa View Post
    Self types as ENTP. Yet:

    Does not bother to use the correct punctuation and syntax in a secondary language as this would take too long and why bother to observe anal-retentive rules that restrict personal expression anyway. Makes simplistic binary assumption about the nature of information gathering, assuming that all Ti knowledge is internally derived without any reference to external connections (which would be like living in a cave without any light).

    Weak Ti indicated. Most likely a Victim of some sort due to his stated attraction for MILFs. This is typical of the low Sensing F types, who wish to be sexually dominated by older, more experienced partners
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spermatozoa View Post
    Self types as ENTP. Yet:

    Does not bother to use the correct punctuation and syntax in a secondary language as this would take too long and why bother to observe anal-retentive rules that restrict personal expression anyway. Makes simplistic binary assumption about the nature of information gathering, assuming that all Ti knowledge is internally derived without any reference to external connections (which would be like living in a cave without any light).

    Weak Ti indicated. Most likely a Victim of some sort due to his stated attraction for MILFs. This is typical of the low Sensing F types, who wish to be sexually dominated by older, more experienced partners
    At least i lost my virginity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    Isn't that what you want
    You are too predictable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spermatozoa View Post
    You are too predictable.
    You too

    I knew you'd respond to my comment right away haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    At least i lost my virginity
    ^

    Observe this power play by n9, an appeal to popularity and status. He claims his opponent is a virgin to increase his standing in the eyes of others. This is a classic tactic of Beta NFs, who are too poor in Logic (Ti) to recognise that this claim is unprovable and hence unwise to make, but who nonetheless feel compelled to compete with others for power, especially if male. Olimpia attempts a similar tactic in a more subtle manner, and accuses Spermatozoa of projection for proposing a concept that clashes with preconceived notions of who is high or low in the Beta hierarchy...this is her "shit test", or attempt to assess whether she should alter her position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    You too

    I knew you'd respond to my comment right away haha
    So you knew when I would respond, but not what I'd say when I did.

    Whereas I knew what you would say, but not when you would say it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spermatozoa View Post
    ^

    Observe this power play by n9, an appeal to popularity and status. He claims his opponent is a virgin to increase his standing in the eyes of others. This is a classic tactic of Beta NFs, who are too poor in Logic (Ti) to recognise that this claim is unprovable and hence unwise to make, but who nonetheless feel compelled to compete with others for power, especially if male. Olimpia attempts a similar tactic in a more subtle manner, and accuses Spermatozoa of projection for proposing a concept that clashes with preconceived notions of who is high or low in the Beta hierarchy...this is her "shit test", or attempt to assess whether she should alter her position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    Good luck proving that credibility is a Te thing.

    Filtering is still an introverted way of dealing with information.....
    Fi leads being Te seeking are gonna filter for credibility, or at least literally... seek it out.

    Surely they are Ji lead, but that doesn't mean that what they are looking for isn't Te-related.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    Dat Ti Role is outta control
    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spermatozoa View Post
    ^

    Observe this power play by n9, an appeal to popularity and status. He claims his opponent is a virgin to increase his standing in the eyes of others. This is a classic tactic of Beta NFs, who are too poor in Logic (Ti) to recognise that this claim is unprovable and hence unwise to make, but who nonetheless feel compelled to compete with others for power, especially if male. Olimpia attempts a similar tactic in a more subtle manner, and accuses Spermatozoa of projection for proposing a concept that clashes with preconceived notions of who is high or low in the Beta hierarchy...this is her "shit test", or attempt to assess whether she should alter her position.
    Look at me i talk in third person

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    Fi leads being Te seeking are gonna filter for credibility, or at least literally... seek it out.
    Sure but Myst's point is that both Ti and Fi filter. Both functions could come to the same conclusion; the difference between them is in how they came to it.

    Ti filters the idea or object according to its invented categories and rules. A good example would be that in music, in the tonal system the position of a note may be rejected as disharmonious/incorrect (in other words, rejected) if it leads to consecutive dissonances. The intervals defined as "dissonant" are made clear in the rules of the system, but which intervals are defined as such is still a subjective decision, albeit one created by Ti to give structure to the Ne ideas, ordering them in space. You could use a different system which might allow this but impose different restrictions in other areas.

    So a distinction to make would be that the system itself is not correct or incorrect (it is after all subject to revision), but the individual axioms that comprise it are either correct or incorrect, much like a set of mathematical formulae.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spermatozoa View Post
    ^

    Observe this power play by n9, an appeal to popularity and status. He claims his opponent is a virgin to increase his standing in the eyes of others. This is a classic tactic of Beta NFs, who are too poor in Logic (Ti) to recognise that this claim is unprovable and hence unwise to make, but who nonetheless feel compelled to compete with others for power, especially if male. Olimpia attempts a similar tactic in a more subtle manner, and accuses Spermatozoa of projection for proposing a concept that clashes with preconceived notions of who is high or low in the Beta hierarchy...this is her "shit test", or attempt to assess whether she should alter her position.
    I mean sure, it's one way to look at it, and I'm not saying this is entirely without a logical structure, but maybe some people just had enough of the constant sexual topics about dominance, male power plays and this weird sexual darwinistic thing, bodily fluids, slutty IEIs and whatnots, etc. that come up many times due to projection and constantly being horny. (Here I'd like to point out that no, sexual topics don't bother me, but I feel like I'm looking at a whole theatre of someone's struggles, someone who never seems to ever address any issues himself).

    Besides that, I'm not saying in some of your post there is no truth (at least from my point of view, I understood in a few of these good points you made), or that nothing ever makes sense. But to be honest, sometimes I think you are trolling with the constantly sexually oversaturated thematics which leaves me baffled a bit, and it started to become incredibly awkward. I don't know about the conflicts of you two, but "Olimpia ate horse cock" was really one of the lowest demonstration of this, and passive-agressive AF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Te likes to get facts from outside sources. Hmmm outside sources... credibility... you put the link with ur ne polr
    Exactly, Te gets facts from outside sources, determining credibility for the reason of selectivity requires an introverted filter. There is the link you've been missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spermatozoa View Post
    Self types as ENTP. Yet:

    Does not bother to use the correct punctuation and syntax in a secondary language as this would take too long and why bother to observe anal-retentive rules that restrict personal expression anyway. Makes simplistic binary assumption about the nature of information gathering, assuming that all Ti knowledge is internally derived without any reference to external connections (which would be like living in a cave without any light).

    Weak Ti indicated. Most likely a Victim of some sort due to his stated attraction for MILFs. This is typical of the low Sensing F types, who wish to be sexually dominated by older, more experienced partners
    Lool he's just a stupid troll.

    Not the ILE style of trolling either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    Exactly, Te gets facts from outside sources, determining credibility for the reason of selectivity requires an introverted filter. There is the link you've been missing.
    i dont think you know what credibility means

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    i dont think you know what credibility means
    Prove that I don't know, good luck, bye idiot. (If you can't tell, I have about zero respect for you. It's very rare that I'm willing to call someone an idiot openly and esp in public.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    Prove that I don't know, good luck, bye idiot. (If you can't tell, I have about zero respect for you. It's very rare that I'm willing to call someone an idiot openly and esp in public.)
    oh no

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    @Avebury, the “popularity” vs “principle” argument can be illuminated by a knowledge of Socionics. It is basically an Fe vs Fi debate.

    If you ask yourself which is better, to criticize that one whack job who is always disagreeing with rules that society has agreed makes it possible to live together, or to stand on your principles regardless of what everyone else is telling you, depends strongly on whether you value Fe (group values) or Fi (personal values).

    Note which types are making which arguments above.

    Personally, I believe that most philosophies come down to valuing one IE or another.

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    a record that sells a lot of copies is objectively good according to both Te and Fe

    whether its bad because I personally judge it so and that is the deciding factor is Ti Fi

    in other words, people can come down on either side from any quadra. its actually the basis for projections and misunderstanding. one person says its "objectively good" and they mean it in a Te sense, and the other person takes it in a Fe sense and thinks thats rubbish and counters with Ti reasons "its musically unsophisticated, the system is rigged, consumers are automatons that buy whatever their corporate masters push".. Te type thinks they're getting Fi and is like "that's just your personal sentiment" when Ti may actually have thinking reasons for their position

    alternatively one person says its "objectively good" because it brought a lot of joy to a lot of people, so in a Fe sense: like spice girls. Person thinks they're getting Te and responds with Fi saying "just because it inspired a lot girls with girl power doesn't make it objectively good, the actual quality of the music is insincere, its been done before, it would have been better if they spent the same amount of money on something else" etc. Fe valuer takes the Fi as Ti and thinks Fi person is advocating some kind of ideological formula which all music should be subjected to in order to be considered good, etc etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    @Avebury, the “popularity” vs “principle” argument can be illuminated by a knowledge of Socionics. It is basically an Fe vs Fi debate.

    If you ask yourself which is better, to criticize that one whack job who is always disagreeing with rules that society has agreed makes it possible to live together, or to stand on your principles regardless of what everyone else is telling you, depends strongly on whether you value Fe (group values) or Fi (personal values).
    No man. . . . just no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    a record that sells a lot of copies is objectively good according to both Te and Fe
    Sure, a record is objectively "good" if it makes a lot of money. But you can judge success by more factors than just how much money is made from the record, and it is also true that a recording can make a lot of money and make a lot of people feel great, and still be kind of crap when you analyze it musically. But then of course you do need to be able to sell your work in order to survive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    in other words, people can come down on either side from any quadra. its actually the basis for projections and misunderstanding. one person says its "objectively good" and they mean it in a Te sense, and the other person takes it in a Fe sense and thinks thats rubbish and counters with Ti reasons "its musically unsophisticated, the system is rigged, consumers are automatons that buy whatever their corporate masters push".. Te type thinks they're getting Fi and is like "that's just your personal sentiment" when Ti may actually have thinking reasons for their position.

    alternatively one person says its "objectively good" because it brought a lot of joy to a lot of people, so in a Fe sense: like spice girls. Person thinks they're getting Te and responds with Fi saying "just because it inspired a lot girls with girl power doesn't make it objectively good, the actual quality of the music is insincere, its been done before, it would have been better if they spent the same amount of money on something else" etc. Fe valuer takes the Fi as Ti and thinks Fi person is advocating some kind of ideological formula which all music should be subjected to in order to be considered good, etc etc
    Yes, I agree with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    @Avebury, the “popularity” vs “principle” argument can be illuminated by a knowledge of Socionics. It is basically an Fe vs Fi debate.

    If you ask yourself which is better, to criticize that one whack job who is always disagreeing with rules that society has agreed makes it possible to live together, or to stand on your principles regardless of what everyone else is telling you, depends strongly on whether you value Fe (group values) or Fi (personal values).

    Note which types are making which arguments above.

    Personally, I believe that most philosophies come down to valuing one IE or another.
    I actually agree with Bertrand here.

    Let me explain.

    I think introverted rationality is more abstract. will indeed judge value by popularity, whereas will judge values by a subjective value system, which you could call principles. However, will judge by facts, whereas will also judge by principles. Are and the same information, then? Not at all, because will judge by what it considers "logically sound" or "just" whereas will judge by its personal value system "that behavior repels me". They both judge principles though, but they are not the same IE.

    My argument 99 vs 1 was not really about principles, since principles are subjective. What I meant was simply that people believing in something, not necessarily valuing it in an sense, but believing in it, does not it make it true. For example, at some point in history the majority of people believed the earth was flat and that the sun revolved around the earth. This is objectively false by today's knowledge, but Galileo was forced to recant his "beliefs" at the time. That did not make him wrong.

    Basically, I think principles comes down to introverted rationality, whereas objective judgements come down to extroverted rationality. Yes, is objective, it just deals with information that affects people, whereas is impersonal object-related information. Jung already pointed out the problem of how ethics/feeling is "subjective" but how introvertsion is also "subjective" so our language is really defective when it comes to expressing the functions, since the meaning of the words "subjective" and objective" in this case overlap. "Objective" can mean impersonal information, or it can mean the objective world. "Subjective" can mean personal information, or it can mean the subjective (inner) world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crAck View Post
    first: his sex jokes dont bother me at all. he just annoys me sometimes because [see below], so i asked the Q.

    ("see below") second: wait. me, rabbitholes? well, different kind i guess, i can see it, but thats what annoys me about sperma and his type otherwise. for example: see his weird ass reason-theory for why n9 isnt an ILE. i mean, its obvious to me n9 isnt an ILE, whats with sperms penis-stroking of Ti like hes some god damn genius? annoying.

    that said, sorry, sperm, dont feel bad. we all have our own fixations as we develop (i.e. we are different types). as for you, myst: absolutely no offense taken.
    Ok cool if no offense taken

    I didn't see the post about n9's type.


    Quote Originally Posted by crAck View Post
    or maybe he hasnt accepted his fe ha. it comes with time you know (see my last post) and in some people isnt accepted as much as others after age (e.g. subtype influence - see myst, who claims se-lsi, who rejects ni ie "rabbitholes" (se<-->ni)). 2c, fucking off now.
    Oh I don't call all Ni stuff rabbitholey, some Ni is really really great to me, I just call conceptual reasoning without any way to make an anchor from it to tangible things rabbitholey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crAck View Post
    first: his sex jokes dont bother me at all. he just annoys me sometimes because [see below], so i asked the Q.

    ("see below") second: wait. me, rabbitholes? well, different kind i guess, i can see it, but thats what annoys me about sperma and his type otherwise. for example: see his weird ass reason-theory for why n9 isnt an ILE. i mean, its obvious to me n9 isnt an ILE, whats with sperms penis-stroking of Ti like hes some god damn genius? annoying.
    Some people actually have to work to make no sense, but you manage to do so without any effort whatsoever.

    Quote Originally Posted by crAck View Post
    that said, sorry, sperm, dont feel bad. we all have our own fixations as we develop (i.e. we are different types). as for you, myst: absolutely no offense taken.
    So are you sorry for me or are you not? Make up your mind!

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