Your typing of forum members

[nifl]

@Snowgirl
ah, doing the quoting now looks better

Why ? I don't get the point of doing this

to understand the degree to which you have a function or value. to decide on the type without comparison to others/ITR is difficult for many.

And , how would I do that ?

for example, you can compare with your family and friends in your degree of emotional expression, logical reasoning, creativity or perception of alternatives, focus on material things around you etc. and try to feel how they are psychically, what traits dominate in their minds. try to feel who you are more drawn to, who are more interesting and less bland, who were the best/most sympathetic and worst/most frustrating in your life. you say you like intuitives - try to systematically review the types of the people you know and feel which ones are more for you. what I found when I did this - it was extraverts, intuitives and ethicists that were more interesting. dearest people to me were almost all Fi or Ne types.

I've even received it from people who are not close to me , some of them we hardly know each other on a level beyond our names

in Socionics there's some theories suggesting that we try to express our weak functions more in strangers' company, because we want to protect ourselves against criticism there. I can't say about your situation, anyways, only comment on what you report, talk about your behaviour and my impression from the video/pictures. ITR is the way to go - it's the basis of Sol's test, to try and see if there's correspondence between other data and the results by those who took the test. for example, it may be that the test reports that you prefer sensors to intuitives (the people that Sol typed in sensing, that is).

[myresearch]

Do you know what I was doing while speaking in the video? I was watching people passing by in the street and listening to the outside sounds, even the door which was a little far from my place and in another room I could hear the sound of it opening and closing

No one around me sees my intuition skills as superior to my sensing skills , and I'm always praised for it

What they say when they are praising you?

[welcometomania]

I don't know honestly but thanks for the suggestion

you once typed as IEE, right? I think that is your type now..(lol)

do you think this looks a bit like you?

Also, do you relate to the female Huxley portrait in Beskova's description?

[Miss Messy]

for example, you can compare with your family and friends

You answered me about comparing with others irl but you have told me to compare myself with others here ( in this forum )

[ it's certainly worth considering, but it is best to compare yourself with others here. people who are favourably inclined to you may not always give accurate assessments ]

in Socionics there's some theories suggesting that we try to express our weak functions more in strangers' company

I laughed when I read this because I remembered that I did this with Ni and Fe last year of school , while I express Se only when necessary ( when I need , or when someone needs my help with it )

[Miss Messy]

What they say when they are praising you?

They were surprised by my strong hearing of far voices and said "Masha Allah" - a phrase we use when we express our surprise at something -

My classmate dropped a small object while we were going up the stairs and started to search for it . I immediately noticed it , she told me: you should be appointed as an observer in the army because of your eyesight

I was once in a math class , the teacher was giving me a lesson in the yard , suddenly a little mouse passed by quickly and I noticed it , I told him, he was surprised because he didn't see it at all but I don't remember what he said to me (such a situation happened to me hundreds of times , not just with rats but with smaller creatures like spiders, ants and even smaller insects which you need to focus a little to see it on pages or old photos )

[nifl]

@Snowgirl

You answered me about comparing with others irl but you have told me to compare myself with others here ( in this forum )

what i meant in what you quoted: compare yourself with others based on behaviour instead of taking everything of what they say about you as indicative of your skills and personality in relation to them.
but, with regards to behavior IRL or online, you can do both, although behaviour IRL is easier, because of being less able to be manipulated and fuller - but you should consider it primarily based on your own opinions of their types, not on the opinions of the ones you observe


also, strong hearing, eyesight etc. are genetically related and probably have no relation to types, only the attention on such things.
@welcome
that ''IEE'' seems closer to a Fe type. Snowgirl is a logical type, anyways

[Miss Messy]

do you think this looks a bit like you?

A little bit but her gazes seems malicious to me

Also, do you relate to the female Huxley portrait in Beskova's description?

I dislike this portrait , I don't think it's a good way to type someone, it's dependent on many other factors

These descriptions were written based on observing Russian people, elsewhere in the world the same type might behave differently due to social constraints or other reasons, EIE female for example, in Russian description behaves in a "cozy" manner and all boys should love her, but EIE female in another country where there are cultural restrictions on such behavior will not act in the same way

Enneagram too , IEI female for example, is described as adventurous , shows happy vibes etc , this description applies very well to Enneagram 4 Sp. If a 4 Sp female reads this description, she may relate to it and type herself as IEI

and so on

[nifl]

A little bit but her gazes seems malicious to me

if she's a Fe type (not sure), then this is a more usual perception for Te types. they (and Ti types) ''grimace'' more in my view
''malicious'' is how the look of the opposing quadra is perceived more often than the other types

[welcometomania]

@welcome
that ''IEE'' seems closer to a Fe type.

yes, a 4D Fe type

Snowgirl is a logical type, anyways

Do you know her personally? lol..

[Miss Messy]

yes, a 4D Fe type

My EIE friend once told me that he feels like I'm his little girl because I literally have no Fe ( I didn't really understand what he meant )

Anyway, we were both attracted to each other but we didn't get into a relationship because of the distance between us and the difference in religious sect and customs/traditions of our two families

ShortSadStory

[welcometomania]

@Beautiful sky & @Dreymagine : EII (maybe)

My EIE friend once told me that he feels like I'm his little girl because I literally have no Fe ( I didn't really understand what he meant )

Anyway, we were both attracted to each other but we didn't get into a relationship because of the distance between us and the difference in religious sect and customs/traditions of our two families

ShortSadStory

I think it relates more to having Childlike romance style (Ne) rather than Fe? Also, if he is rich don't give up on him yet!! lol (just kidding)

[nifl]

Do you know her personally? lol..

do you know everyone you type on here?
her behavior is consistent with a logical type, just like yours is consistent with a Fe type
when one doesn't know a person it's never 100%, but the likelihood of these two assessments being true is high

Dreymagine is perhaps IEI

[welcometomania]

@nifl you said "Snowgirl is a logical type.. " like you know her 100%. My typings could also be wrong that's why I'd always try including all the "maybe"-s

ok I didn't sound like I doubt my typing for @Snowgirl in my recent posts here but @Snowgirl, you kind of fit the IEE description to me but feel free to disagree/discontinue our discussion here if it's getting too taxing for you.

[welcometomania]

I don't know honestly but thanks for the suggestion

(oops I just noticed this post.. maybe you're right that I'm the IEE with 1D Si lol but I still identify with introversion more for now..) alright I'm sorry for dragging on this longer than I should've, I will try to stop posting in this thread (for a while) lol sorry

[Miss Messy]

While I don't prefer to type myself via rationality/irrationality due to having 1+7 in the tritype , there are many positions that put me in the category of rationality rather than irrationality

From Gulenko's description of rationality/irrationality:

Psychologically, rationals are characterized by a stable mood (it is either elevated, lowered, or neutral). Changes in their mood occur under the influence of visible reasons. The mood of the rational is quite manageable - it can get artificially amused or saddened.

Irrationals manage their mental state poorly. It is better for them to try and not to improve their mood, but to simply to wait it out, until a new spontaneous emotional change takes place. However, after an upswing in mood, a downswing inevitably follows. Uncertainty and randomness determine the mood swings of irrationals.

So rational based on this

Intellectually, rational types are distinguished by the fact that they make decisions easily, quickly, and categorically in a familiar situation. When situation is unusual or uncertain, they begin to doubt themselves, become nervous. They need some time to think things through.

Irrationals delay their final decisions in a standard situation, but with sudden changes in the situation, the choices are made quite quickly. The uncertainty, the probabilistic nature of a situation activates their thinking, makes them more resourceful and savvy. Therefore, they are more decisive precisely when the rationals tend to falter.

Rational again, I literally and exactly act the same way they react when in uncertainty/unusual station
There's a small exception though : sometimes I change my decisions suddenly after planning smth else (for example, buy a different kind of cookie instead of the one I planned to buy ) but this must only be because of me , however , any external changes of plans by other people or circumstances, I don't react in a happy way* (and I know exactly that what I'm saying is accurate, because it's happened to me hundreds of times.)

These people who follow a routine (which could be either constructive or destructive), without changing it fundamentally

Thinking about it , it's rationality again

The rhythm of my life is usually constant: I get up every day at nine or ten in the morning, study what I have to study, surf the Internet, eat, get out half an hour before class time (and if I want to go to the store I leave 35 minutes early ) I come back from class , relax and eat again , study , etc

The rhythm is the same every day, although I edit it sometimes but the foundation remains the same

However, there is a point I relate to a lot in irrationality, it's the desire for freedom and new stimuli every once in a while :

They need alternatives, constant switching, and variability.

It's ordinary for me to get bored of my routine (especially since I'm re-studying exactly the same thing I studied last year), in this case I get outside and try something new although I don't do that every day , only every once in a while

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Additional thing :

In high school, I moved to a new school, and this school was radically different from the schools I had previously studied at

There was no static study schedule in the two years I spent there , the program changed every day and was not fixed until a few weeks before the long school holiday
During these two years, I got mad because of this, I couldn't adjust to this system at all and I spent entire days cursing at the school.
Fortunately for me, Corona delinquent canceled the end of these two years a few months before the actual end

On the other hand, I moved last year to another school, the system there was very excellent: everything is organized and disciplined, the rules are clear and strictly enforced.
Some changes were happening such as our classes being moved to another floor, class hours being slightly increased/decreased, we were given a sudden holiday or forced to attend school on public holidays, or the program changed slightly
But this used to happen from time to time, and mostly we were notified of it in advance (a few days before). This school was comfortable for me, and I considered it compensation from God for what I lived during the previous two years

[nifl]

@nifl you said "Snowgirl is a logical type.. " like you know her 100%. My typings could also be wrong that's why I'd always try including all the "maybe"-s

ok I didn't sound like I doubt my typing for @Snowgirl in my recent posts here but @Snowgirl, you kind of fit the IEE description to me but feel free to disagree/discontinue our discussion here if it's getting too taxing for you.

everything in Socionics is a matter of opinion (for now), so typing and argumentation for that opinion is a matter of common sense, not proof, 'mb' or not. even if a typer knew Snowgirl intimately, they would not be able to 'prove' her type to her or anyone else, only convince

[welcometomania]

@Snowgirl I think what you described can be considered non-type related.. because I think it is more connected to your upbringing and environments. Also, here..
https://www.wikisocion.net/en/index....ntation_groups

Extremely feminine manifestation (EII) as well as extremely masculine (SLE) are not considered harmonious.

From what Gulenko has stated, it can be inferred here that women are more inclined towards rationality compared to men(?) What do you think?

@nifl Great, I have no disagreement with you there

[Miss Messy]

what you described can be considered non-type related..

Which one I described?

From what Gulenko has stated, it can be inferred here that women are more inclined towards rationality compared to men(?) What do you think?

I don't think it's a correlation

[welcometomania]

@Snowgirl sorry, I meant when you explained why you think you're rational and not otherwise. (I think it's a bit non-type related but I could be wrong)

Just wondering, have you tried taking the free online test on Gulenko's website itself?

https://socioniks.net/en/test/

[Miss Messy]

@Snowgirl sorry, I meant when you explained why you think you're rational and not otherwise. (I think it's a bit non-type related but I could be wrong)

Personally I avoid typing using 4 basic dichotomies ( I/E , N/S , T/F , P/J ) and I don't consider it a thing but the descriptions of rationality makes a lot of sense when I read it

Just wondering, have you tried taking the free online test on Gulenko's website itself?

Whenever I take it it gives me SLI

[welcometomania]

Personally I avoid typing using 4 basic dichotomies ( I/E , N/S , T/F , P/J ) and I don't consider it a thing but the descriptions of rationality makes a lot of sense when I read it.

this whole statement reads like Ti-PoLR to me, lol (and there's nothing wrong with it!)

Whenever I take it it gives me SLI

I've tested as LSE before but I think it's just some alter-ego
that made me got LSE or something like that..

(also, I've said before in the Typology Random Thoughts thread but I believe SEEs (especially females because I believe they are the smarter sex) generally would be the best typology-typist. If you're still unsure of your type, maybe you can try to get 1 type you.. 'cause I don't think I'm SEE/potentially good as SEEs in typing others)

Good luck.. ^^

[nifl]

@welcome
a type with Ti (understanding of systems, logical order) and Ne (understanding of the potentials of situations and people and their hidden motivations/true character) is not the most suited to be a typologist. you have some strange ideas about Socionics - which is not so unusual for sensory ethicists, who on average have more difficulty than other types with grasping intellectual subjects.
a keen perception of what people are on the inside = related to Ne. the people with a natural disposition towards typology should most often be Ne types, and presumably they are well-represented on forums such as this one. Alpha intuitives better understand the formal structure of the systems, Delta intuitives better understand how to use and understand typology (here Socionics is relevant) in relations, better understand which people they like and do not like. perhaps the Alphas are slightly better represented (not going by self-typing, as people mistype themselves into intuition more often than into sensing).

anyways, having a type doesn't automatically qualify one for any work or field.

[welcometomania]

@nifl ok, thanks

[Grognak]

What do you guys think my type is? One thing I'm absolutely sure of is that I'm an emotivist and the second thing I'm mostly sure of is that I'm an introtim. What cognitive style do my posts most clearly reflect?

[Miss Messy]

What do you guys think my type is? One thing I'm absolutely sure of is that I'm an emotivist and the second thing I'm mostly sure of is that I'm an introtim. What cognitive style do my posts most clearly reflect?

I haven't observe your behaviors here but ILIs are not emotovists

[Grognak]

I haven't observe your behaviors here but ILIs are not emotovists

Try to type without using the profile TIM as a guide.

[nifl]

What do you guys think my type is? One thing I'm absolutely sure of is that I'm an emotivist and the second thing I'm mostly sure of is that I'm an introtim. What cognitive style do my posts most clearly reflect?

make a typing video

[Miss Messy]

Try to type without using the profile TIM as a guide.

I still don`t have an answer except wishing you good luck

[welcometomania]

gives me an impression of your possible semi-dual, IEE

I disagree with you (on me being SEI), but thank you for the effort, though

[seeking it]

@one If you don't mind being typed my guess for you is ESI

[seeking it]

yES!! closer to EIEs
Can you switch it up a little so I can get typed LSI for the second time by someone else aside from n9

Btw I don’t really mind. Can you explain why though or did you type by vibes

Sorry no luck with this one, not LSI imo

I though of ESI because your posts seem to be like they include concrete descriptions and yet there is an a deep intuitive associations vibe and I associate that with ESIs, that manner of reflecting on things. If that makes sense.

[Grognak]

Typing works like Jewish dream interpretation: it highly depends on the intention of the one typing you. I discovered the intention of the man who typed me ILI-N and I reject it.

[Alive]

@pasleine - IEI

[Coeruleum Blue]

@Alive - IEI

[nifl]

@Alive - IEI

most possibly

[Alive]

most possibly

We can have a skype conversation if you want to. Talk about the stuff we know. I'm definitely not an ethical type. I understand the theory well enough to know what fits and what doesn't.

[Miss Messy]

@Alive , seriously and away from any " typing battle " or anything like that

How does your Ne manifest usually ?

[Alive]

Interest in almost anything without ever thinking about material benefits. Jumping from topic to topic. The ability to give up beliefs or pursuits on a whim. Grasping the general idea of how something works quickly (focusing on the broad, most important points instead of going through the details in-depth, which is Ni).

[Miss Messy]

Okay but what about @Alive being EII instead of LII ?

LII is the last thing I think of as his type

[Alive]

Okay but what about @Alive being EII instead of LII ?

LII is the last thing I think of as his type

I'm not an ethical person, but I would be open about recording a discussion with someone like @Aster if she wants to so you people have some footage on an LII