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    And it’s always in the late teens and early twenties, when society expects you be more adult and Te-like, when the suicidal mostly happen.
    Well personally I've never been that suicidal- despite being abused. Suicide takes a level of "balls" I don't really have. Or maybe I just never had it that bad even though I definitely went through pain in my life. When I was really depressed I said 'life sucks and I want to die' but I was a hurt child in pain from being severely bullied. Nobody saw this or if they saw it- they tried to exploit it for their own advantage, they didn't really care. Or they entirely blamed me for my own suffering. "If you were more like this, X wouldn't happen to you" instead of standing up to the assholes. SLE and a few other types were the only ones powerful enough to stand up to bullies & protect me. I was truly innocent once- and people cruelly got off on trying to make me feel demonic in order to feel more righteous, because they couldn't confront their own demons.

    I was pressured to be more Te-like before that. "Stop playing video games & stop living in a fantasy world and pay attention to this Te document that is made to completely fuck you over and take away all your free will but because I said it in a serious and professional business-like manner, it's all okay!" (fake sociopathic smile) SEE I USED THE
    § SYMBOL SO THAT MEANS I'M MORE IMPORTANT AND BETTER THAN YOU!!!11 WHAT I'M SAYING IS OBJECTIVE AND MORALLY RIGHT EVEN THOUGH IT'S REALLY NOT AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT BECAUSE I WANT POWER TO GET AWAY WITH MY OWN FUCKED UP SHIT.



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    How do we end the abuse of children?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by BandD View Post


    Well personally I've never been that suicidal- despite being abused. Suicide takes a level of "balls" I don't really have. Or maybe I just never had it that bad even though I definitely went through pain in my life. When I was really depressed I said 'life sucks and I want to die' but I was a hurt child in pain from being severely bullied. Nobody saw this or if they saw it- they tried to exploit it for their own advantage, they didn't really care. Or they entirely blamed me for my own suffering. "If you were more like this, X wouldn't happen to you" instead of standing up to the assholes. SLE and a few other types were the only ones powerful enough to stand up to bullies & protect me. I was truly innocent once- and people cruelly got off on trying to make me feel demonic in order to feel more righteous, because they couldn't confront their own demons.

    I was pressured to be more Te-like before that. "Stop playing video games & stop living in a fantasy world and pay attention to this Te document that is made to completely fuck you over and take away all your free will but because I said it in a serious and professional business-like manner, it's all okay!" (fake sociopathic smile) SEE I USED THE
    § SYMBOL SO THAT MEANS I'M MORE IMPORTANT AND BETTER THAN YOU!!!11 WHAT I'M SAYING IS OBJECTIVE AND MORALLY RIGHT EVEN THOUGH IT'S REALLY NOT AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT BECAUSE I WANT POWER TO GET AWAY WITH MY OWN FUCKED UP SHIT.


    Your enne type may be why.. I am a 4 and I have been hospitalized for suicidal shit, but 4 is depressive and it adds a whole layer to that. I never had any “protector”. I just had to use my imagination... I fantasized the ideal person, read fan fictions— romance, hurt/comfort, adventure. Abuse and/or miscommunication from father often results in enneagram 4 (learned this from Stugg, and it is quite scary how much it fits with how my childhood has made me develop).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    How do we end the abuse of children?
    Help young people who never got what they need and who are cut off just because they are 18, and then they grow into adults never getting what they need, destined to become abusers and perpetuate cycle. Still can save them with not fully developed brain.
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    If you’re abused and/or neglected and never are shown kindness, you are not going to ever know what kindness is, thus, you are going to permeate into society, unkind behaviors. Kicking everyone and throwing them into trash at the mere urging of 18 is the real issue of why many people just pass on abuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Braingel View Post
    Help young people who never got what they need and who are cut off just because they are 18, and then they grow into adults never getting what they need, destined to become abusers and perpetuate cycle. Still can save them with not fully developed brain.
    What about the teenage boys and girls who abuse their family members who still live with their parents? What is going on with this group
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    What about the teenage boys and girls who abuse their family members who still live with their parents? What is going on with this group
    Dysfunctional family typically causes that. You don’t just learn be abusive unless you are psychopathic and even then, a psychopath will grow fine if they are raised righteously with moral. Become surgeons and lawyer. I hate say it, but.. Parents almost always have the capability and 9.5/10 times, the parents will have contributed to the psychological demise of their child, be it consciously or unconsciously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    What about the teenage boys and girls who abuse their family members who still live with their parents? What is going on with this group
    Dysfunctional family typically causes that. You don’t just learn be abusive unless you are psychopathic and even then, a psychopath will grow fine if they are raised righteously with moral. Become surgeons and lawyer. I hate say it, but.. Parents almost always have the capability and 9.5/10 times, the parents will have contributed to the psychological demise of their child, be it consciously or unconsciously.
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    If you’re abused and/or neglected and never are shown kindness, you are not going to ever know what kindness is, thus, you are going to permeate into society, unkind behaviors.
    I think some people were genuinely kind to me, I didn't trust it though because I couldn't tell if it was sarcastic or if they were pretending to be nice to me so they could do something really fucked up later on. It was more of my own insecurities - but you can't really blame me for being that way after what I experienced.

    And you are right- I'm not a 4- I think I'm a 5, so it might be different for me. I'm really sorry u had to go through that.

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    Even if the kid had external trauma (outside of family), generally a parent will invalidate their feelings over that, or they will neglect them and not be there for them.. You don’t just start disrespecting people without a cause for disrespect, and parents are the cause of the child being born and for majority of how their psyche turns out. Even if mental illness is factor, family tree being ill means parents can be and have their own flawed behavior.

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    Take a kid who gets raped. Their mom and dad do not believe them. They were loving parents prior, but the negligence in that caused the kid to lose respect and feel betrayed. Or a kid who is bullied everyday in school, and the parents just tell them suck it up, never sit down and talk and listen to how they feel and offer their support and comforting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Braingel View Post
    Dysfunctional family typically causes that. You don’t just learn be abusive unless you are psychopathic and even then, a psychopath will grow fine if they are raised righteously with moral. Become surgeons and lawyer. I hate say it, but.. Parents almost always have the capability and 9.5/10 times, the parents will have contributed to the psychological demise of their child, be it consciously or unconsciously.
    You know every time I think Mia Farrow should have killed Woody Allen. She tried to bring light to the abuse via the legal system but our legal system SUCKS ass. No offense to BD
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    I generally do not support death penalty unless there literally is no future potential at all, for the offender to change. I think it goes against what is spiritually right do in grander scheme of time, and it is best teach people their karma in present life so as they do not pass on in futuristic life.

    If you just kill them, they’re going to entrap still, their unresolved issue and it will repeat its pattern and cross over. It’s pointless. Best deal with it here and now and if you can’t and it will be beat for welfare of whole, then kill and address it back in future.
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    @Beautiful sky

    A lot of my abuse is because I was forced BY LAW and the ILLUMINATI to hang around people that in real life I would never invite in my living room- so it was a huge boundary invasion. It was done in the name of 'goodness' like 'it's good to experience in life people you don't get along with so you can learn how to get along with them in a more Te like and business like manner!' but in reality it doesn't work that way. In reality it just leads to heartache and destroyed Fi and abuse.

    And when you choose your career as a grown-up you are most likely going to be around people that have your similar interests so you so it's easier to learn how to cooperate with them - but in forced government schooling you are forced to be around ppl that you might naturally and sadistically want to kill or run away from. (it's an instinctive Se thing that makes society uncomfortable- but it doesn't mean it's not there.) So for one thing- stop forcing kids to be around people they shouldn't be around.

    That and many government institutions actually really do traffic kids for pedophiles, under the guise they are 'helping' them. Wasn't that city official person caught with child porn on his computer when he killed himself? But I think the moral virtue signaling the government does with this stuff is just another manipulative tactic to hide their own sick and twisted abuses against children. Or those places are so sexually repressed and afraid of sex- they cause complexes in people because they view even healthy sexuality as 'demonic.'

    So yeah I'm not religious like @Eliza Thomason is but I understand what she means about the Deep State being a threat against children.

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    The more chances you have to correct their issues in the now, the more you will save in the future, and help the planet to reach its zenith faster in what perceives as earth time.
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    Energy recycles and it cannot create or destroy, meaning it will destine to reincarnate in a new form, when it gets to that point of cycle. The creator must have set it as such so that only it can be one to control such event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Braingel View Post
    I generally do not support death penalty unless there literally is no future potential at all, for the offender to change. I think it goes against what is spiritually right do in grander scheme of time, and it is best teach people their karma in present life so as they do not pass on in futuristic life.

    If you just kill them, they’re going to entrap still, their unresolved issue and it will repeat its pattern and cross over. It’s pointless. Best deal with it here and now and if you can’t and it will be beat for welfare of whole, then kill and address it back in future.
    Nah I don't believe in spirit repeating. I would put the abuser of my child 10 feet under ground with very little remorse. I say this now. But hell I wouldn't give my child the slightest feeling that I didn't stand up for them. There was a recent case of a texas man who caught someone abusing their child and shot them. Yeah as a parent that isn't too far away from my thoughts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Braingel View Post
    Energy recycles and it cannot create or destroy, meaning it will destine to reincarnate in a new form, when it gets to that point of cycle. The creator must have set it as such so that only it can be one to control such event.
    yes and hopefully it recycles into a pretty rose bush lol
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Every soul will one day ascend, and so even the most sinister of people, eventually will be forced in their change of cycle, and they only can resist for so long before the karma engulfs and they cannot veer away further, and that energy, I feel, would be so intense, it would attract other equally forceful things and force them change.
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    Maybe with time, you will see how the bigger scheme is making
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    The basic law of this universe is that energy cannot create or destroy. It only recycles.. That should give a big clue, but if the path is not now for knowing, then I can only put this out there, and you will find its course on your own timing.
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    And learning all that needs in one life to me, makes little sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by Braingel View Post
    Yeah people even typed me EIE to insult me. I rejected beta NF for a long ass while, but got around as to it, but lol, I definitely am not an EIE, even if I do mirror superficially, an Fe base. Ashton and pansophy helped to propagate me being delta NF, but Pan is considering beta for me now.. Ashton probably will always view me as a delta unless he met me.

    People are just like, “She expresses emotions. EIE.” But.. My Si is not quite bad enough to be PolR, and my Te is too trash to be 2D. Don’t ignore Ni.. Ne ignoring is only case for me not being IEI, but I can be creative DCNH.
    I'll mentioned you in a voice chat at some point when I talk about my experience in the16types forum, and I would explain my reasoning on why you're IEI rather than EIE. I know a few EIE and they either make me wanna laugh at them or make me want to humiliate them. They are my activity relations. Another thing to point out is that EIE are more haughtier and arrogant than IEI are due to stronger Se and being of a rational sociotype. IEI tend to have a different effect toward me. You seem to remind me of the IEI I have been with. They posted a lot online but in person, they are quiet and internally intense.

    I actually did get commonly typed as an SLE (if you checked my Sedencology) because I'm mostly involved in voice chat and aren't really interested in typing in the Discord server community. I mostly typed here and in Facebook typology community. Safsom actually never hear me talk on voice chat though so he typed me as LSI.

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    Yeah watch your kids and don't let ANYONE take them. And don't have kids if you feel you may abuse them. Ugh. God help us all.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Here's some screenshots from VC on me being commonly typed as SLE.

    @Braingel By the way, Kat is an EIE-Ni in Socionics and 1w2 sx/sp in Enneagram. Apparently, Kat is also the type twin of Melisandre from Game of Thrones who is also an EIE-Ni 1w2 sx/sp. It might be interesting to see if you are any different from Kat (or Melisandre) in terms of sociotype.

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    I see how the pattern plays and see it just is truly, spreading fire. And I see how the wind destines people to burn something they do not really want burn.

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    Until society learns to not blow abuse, you always will have lives disintegrating. Even symbolical of enneagram disintegration, and enne births from childhood
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    You have to stop the wind and build society in way it can withstand such. You are not going to be able extinguish and expend all your water. You will need force that which ignites flame and that which perpetuates its blowing. That is the only way. Otherwise, abuse will be infinite on earth.

    The people who rule how society is run have the biggest matches for fire.
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    I have an SLE coworker. We've been working together for 15 years. Looking at him you wouldn't say he's an SLE. He never insults anyone or talks down to them. He does use a bit of Fe to bring humor into your situation. He asks me how I'm doing and if everything with my daughter and I are ok and he tries to encourage me when I'm weak. When I tell him I haven't slept all night he laughs and says "yeah that happens when they are young. Hang in there it gets easier." I generally like him. He's a nice guy. The internet screen brings out sides of people that are just not ugh there or likely to be there in real life.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    I read a few of the screenshots and they seem very different from me. @Tim
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    I generally do not support death penalty unless there literally is no future potential at all, for the offender to change. I think it goes against what is spiritually right do in grander scheme of time, and it is best teach people their karma in present life so as they do not pass on in futuristic life.
    I'm against it because many times a person who was molested/abused/whatever are acting out that way because they were also molested/abused/whatever themselves and if you kill them you also kill the innocent person in them that was hurt. And abusers can be very good at 'grooming' others and making the victim feel like it's normal and okay when it obviously is just hurtful and sick and fucked up etc.

    But that doesn't explain abusers who never were abused- the gene for abuse is often 'redirected' into something more professional and beneficial. Actually I think this can be a positive thing of Te. Freud once theorized most surgeons had fucked up sadistic urges- but by becoming surgeons they could 'transform' it into something more constructive. But a lot of Te thing becomes from if your own parents value it I think- or you are encouraged to go for it. My own parents didn't value Te themselves so it was hard for them to show me the positive things of it a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BandD View Post


    I'm against it because many times a person who was molested/abused/whatever are acting out that way because they were also molested/abused/whatever themselves and if you kill them you also kill the innocent person in them that was hurt. And abusers can be very good at 'grooming' others and making the victim feel like it's normal and okay when it obviously is just hurtful and sick and fucked up etc.

    But that doesn't explain abusers who never were abused- the gene for abuse is often 'redirected' into something more professional and beneficial. Actually I think this can be a positive thing of Te. Freud once theorized most surgeons had fucked up sadistic urges- but by becoming surgeons they could 'transform' it into something more constructive. But a lot of Te thing becomes from if your own parents value it I think- or you are encouraged to go for it. My own parents didn't value Te themselves so it was hard for them to show me the positive things of it a lot.
    Correct, you understand what I do. You will be abusing a child, even if they abused a child, because they still are emotionally a child, never having gotten what needs from others, and they are acting from their emotional place of being stunted, child. That’s why it is wrong, and it also with future life, just will pass on. Best to heal, best to try reach and if it’s so sinister death is only way for the life, retort to it as end of mean.
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    It is good to see someone else understanding Ni-Fe.
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    That's nice you lovely IEI but I only care about what's mine and my daughter is MINE
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    There are millions of children in adult bodies, at an emotional level, suffering from how the mental health industry brands people and supresses needs, teaches you just to “deal with it” and cope with loss, and never giving what actually is needed. And then people wonder why therapy often is a lifelong endeavor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    That's nice you lovely IEI but I only care about what's mine and my daughter is MINE
    We all impact one another. The money you get to raise your own child, what is “yours” comes from other people that help you to grow what is your own.
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    Therefore, those people are also “yours” on a way( they are giving to you, to raise what is you, and you give to them. You both give one another energy and time, time is ultimate energy form.. You both are each other’s energy and interact to bring more energy.
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    Without others, you would not be able have what is yours. And you would not even be here, to have what is the own, of you. But, our own selves are important as well and what is ours in immediacy is paramount and we do give the most energy there, so naturally we feel most attracted, most attached.
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