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    Quote Originally Posted by Braingel View Post
    This may be a potential evidence of Fi PolR, right here.
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    Yeah, I think it honestly is between ILE-Ne and LSI-0 for Raptor... Makes more sense anyhow, since IEE has Ti as PolR, and he seems struggle and disregard with Fi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pandemic candy View Post
    do i at least get a backstory of how u transformed into an evil person. like u fell off the balcony and some cats started licking u or something
    My backstory is someone calling me Harley Quinn of the 16 types forum, that can rly fuck a homie up u know???
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    Quote Originally Posted by pandemic candy View Post
    btw, i hate ur gaslight-y avatar. go kill urself
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    RaptorWizard's phone number = 434-390-0741 sorry, I don't have more advanced technologies.
    You really want to share your phone number on an internet forum...? That's probably not a great idea. I recommend removing it, especially since it also includes your area code
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    Quote Originally Posted by QamsX View Post
    Being called Catwoman and to kms in the same forum, same thread by the same user is something I definitively did not expect today but I welcome anyways

    I think she's winning, @pandemic candy.

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    what the fuck is happening

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
    Dead typed Me as an INFJ. I must seem poetic and summoning rain curtains and tumbled hair-dryers for start to sofa couch ebony grabbing the holy shrine of Buddha and mindfulness with the voucher of charisma.
    Mostly because I think that you lead with Ni and because of the way you speak and structure sentences on here. It takes a while of decipher them. You need someone with a strong grasp on reality to ground and structure your sentences realistically.

    You seem very abstract, and you seem like you want to engage with people here through your abstractions. You have your own way of expressing things and want to reach a wider audience.

    Your style of writing seems consistent so far with everything I have observed from you, and thatís why I think IEI-Ni for you.

    Iím not seeing Gamma over Beta to be honest either. You definitely also value Ti, along with the NiFe but it seems more like a HA than a base function.

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    I really think @DEAD is SLI for now. Counter arguments??
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    Quote Originally Posted by pandemic candy View Post
    I thought he was SLE. Why SLI? Do you feel dualized with him
    As far as I can tell, I am more comfortable around Beta NF than Delta NF. I can see and understand how EIE activate me with their Fe, and how I complete the activation feedback loop with my Se.

    I think that also Ne and Fi arenít really the things that energise me. Ne, to me can be pretty scattered and Fi can hit some painful parts in my psyche. It sorta goes against the flow of how I function, from what I have experienced of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by QamsX View Post
    More like, your only argument in chatbox was like him wanting privacy in his rooms which is like... normal. No one wants their room to be interrupted or be the equivalent of the house's public plaza.

    Also, online chat activity is not a trustable indication of introversion/extraversion either.
    Yes, my room is my space. My responsibility to organise and keep clean. If I want peace to do it, I should have peace to think about how I want to organise and tidy things. Itís nothing to do with PoLR Fe, as far as I am concerned.

    Yeah, the chat box is all over the place to be honest. Even from Ti users. Itís short bursts of activity over a period of time. Itís hard to put together, unless you timestamp and screen everything to put together a case you know?

    I think thatís very meticulous to do but possible if you want to put the time and effort into it. But at the same time, itís kinda futile to put together a case when someone is arguing against you, unless itís airtight and you can prove it to them. But that would take a lot of time and resources.

    (Had to send this on my phone because the multi quote isnít working on the website for some reason and Iím not sending multiple replies lol).


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    Quote Originally Posted by AWellArmedCat View Post
    You really want to share your phone number on an internet forum...? That's probably not a great idea. I recommend removing it, especially since it also includes your area code
    Yeah it seems like it may be Fi PolR. I think he is an ILE-Ne or LSI-0. Also indicative of Fi PolR, is he calls me his girlfriend and is serious about it, when we are not dating.
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    @RaptorWizard analysis:

    ILE argument:

    -Displays signs of Fi PolR. Examples: putting his phone number on internet, calling me his girlfriend when we are not dating. Rule out: autism, but I am autistic my own self and I do not show Fi PoLR sign in this way
    -Expands rather than limits. Always saying, "Or" when he is explaining his insights, not going with a concentrated gestalt.
    -Self-typed INTP in MBTI, which can show he has reason to believe Ne (though Socionics is a bit different function-wise)

    LSI argument:

    -Shows signs of HA Ni, wanting display insights, consciously grabbing Ni, but not super apt and efficient with its usage
    -attracted to and stipulated by high Ni users, borrowing there insights
    -tries to structure Fe in others with Ti.. Example: Taking things I say on the forum and putting them in a paragraph to give their own structure.
    -attracted to Fe/Ni high types; EIE and IEI
    -Ne may possibly be fixated on, and it is poor usage and just spurts out

    Would be ILE-Ne harmonizing Ni or LSI-0 harmonizing Ni or creative Ne.

    Ruling out: Have a real conversation on voice chat with him, to grasp how actually, he is. Also to see his competence in Ne.
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    I feel like there's not much of a point in typing RaptorWizard right now, honestly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braingel View Post
    Yeah it seems like it may be Fi PolR. I think he is an ILE-Ne or LSI-0. Also indicative of Fi PolR, is he calls me his girlfriend and is serious about it, when we are not dating.
    Raptor's writings resemble some variety of mild Wernicke's aphasia to me, and I've been hesitant to type him for that reason. That being said, if I had to type him I also lean towards ILE-Ne, but I think my reasoning for that is weak and confounded by whatever is behind his atypical behaviour.
    @RaptorWizard I don't mean to diagnose you with this. I'm just a random person on the internet so you shouldn't place too much value on my musings. Maybe you just really like to write. I don't know you that well
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    Yes, I figured there were things blocking in his psychopathology, which is also why I had told others what they are seeing likely is not Ni. But not being qualified or a professional, I do not want outright go with that. There a variety of things that can be causing it, and it is best to leave in professional hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AWellArmedCat View Post
    Raptor's writings resemble some variety of mild Wernicke's aphasia to me, and I've been hesitant to type him for that reason. That being said, if I had to type him I also lean towards ILE-Ne, but I think my reasoning for that is weak and confounded by whatever is behind his atypical behaviour.
    @RaptorWizard I don't mean to diagnose you with this. I'm just a random person on the internet so you shouldn't place too much value on my musings. Maybe you just really like to write. I don't know you that well
    But with how he presents without eliminating any cause of his psychopathology, I think ILE-Ne is the most likely. There are numerous things that can cause this, and also Fi PolR behavior.. Autism (theory of mind challenge), psychosis (being detached from reality and not paying attention to what one does), etc.. (Not saying he has either one of those).

    The only really fair way to type raptor would be to have an actual voice chat with him to assess his mental state and see where he gets information from in a raw, holistic, not constricted setting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
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    I hope you don't take any offense to anything I was saying.. I do wish you well, but I am just trying to get critically to the underlying workings of your mind.

    You're someone who cannot be accurately typed though, until someone sees you in live observational action, much as a psychologist would need analyze and speculate the behavior and see root.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaptorWizard View Post
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    The absence of any noticeable affect makes me think low dimensional feeling, and high dimensional Ti. The flow of consciousness which doesn't seem to be leading to anything in particular, but rather expanding (as @Braingel suggested) seems to be valued Ne. Ni may or may not be high dimensional, but certainly isn't valued I would say. I believe you to be an ILE or LII, but as I stated before, I don't think any of us on this forum will be able to type you accurately
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    Quote Originally Posted by AWellArmedCat View Post
    The absence of any noticeable affect makes me think low dimensional feeling, and high dimensional Ti. The flow of consciousness which doesn't seem to be leading to anything in particular, but rather expanding (as @Braingel suggested) seems to be valued Ne. Ni may or may not be high dimensional, but certainly isn't valued I would say. I believe you to be an ILE or LII, but as I stated before, I don't think any of us on this forum will be able to type you accurately
    I also think heís LII, but the absence of affect may be NTR in his case. You can, incidentally, compare videos from when he was a few years younger to see a marked difference. I donít want to say outright what I think is the cause, but that + the weight gain since that time should indicate a certain explanation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    the absence of affect may be NTR in his case.
    Oh yeah, definitely. Even the most stilted LIIs I know seem livelier than he does in this video.
    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    that + the weight gain
    I didn't have this context before, but yeah, I think you're definitely onto something. Hard to say when none of us are professionals, but yeah, probably
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    Here's my list of typing of people who is active or quasi-active here:
    @Beautiful sky (Maritsa) : EII
    • I could see the similarities between my sister and Maritsa. They're both goody two shoes. Fun Fact: Maritsa typed me as SLE, my dad as LSE, my mom as ESI, and my sister as EII.

    @Braingel (Kara): Obvious IEI
    • Her Te PoLR is obvious, and her Ni is really strong. She's different from an EIE I know so I would rule out that type.

    @DEAD : SEE
    • He seem SEE to me. Funny to say this, @izz actually mentioned me to DEAD in the Transcendence Discord once and recommend that DEAD should join a VC to talk with me.

    @BandD: Ni base leaning IEI

    @thehotelambush (Ibrahim): LII
    • He snitched on Joy when I used too much Se in Joy's Facebook Socionics group as I was humiliating Sahib (who I think is EIE). Maybe, it's a Southern thing (Beta ST culture) but he doesn't understand that fighting will be resolved and he shouldn't stick his nose where it doesn't belong. Otherwise, he have good use of Ti and thus I considered him a logical type.


    Here's my list of typing of people who I know that is not active here

    Joy: ESE
    • I am leaning toward Alpha SF for her. She seem to side with the Ne valuers and talk about not fighting in her group. She doesn't value Se at all. Leaning toward ESE, which is why she mistyped as an SEE because they are superfically similar to one another. Willing to consider Maritsa's SEI typing.

    Nocturne (Ashley): ESI
    • She blocked me on Facebook because I go on a crusade against Fi base for being a bunch of morally self-righteous prude in Joy's Socionics group.

    Mu: ILE
    • Met him in person in the Atlanta Socionics Society meetup. He typed me as SLE-D in the DCNH system. He did claimed to be an SLE but I can't see how his Se is 4D.

    Lolita (Kiana): SEE
    • Obvious Gamma values, individualistic, and likes to be responsible. Use harsh character judgement. It makes sense why she's typed as SEE-N in Gulenko's Model G and many even agreed that she's SEE in Model A. She is literally have a similar personality as another SEE in one of the Socionics Discord server (420Blaziken) except Kiana gets along with me while Blazi want to fight me. I actually find it hilarious that Kiana called my dual "delusional" and throw many accusation, and some IEI 5w4 female fought back and called her a "bitch."

    echidna1000 (Jack): ILE makes sense but willing to considered LIE.
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    @Tim I'm still on Transendence kinda, so I'd be up for a voice chat sometime if you wanna do one. But I think I'm five or six hours ahead of you if you live in the Deep South (I'm guessing because I am GMT and it's like 6:44am here).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEAD View Post
    @Tim I'm still on Transendence kinda, so I'd be up for a voice chat sometime if you wanna do one. But I think I'm five or six hours ahead of you if you live in the Deep South (I'm guessing because I am GMT and it's like 6:44am here).
    I usually join whenever Kat Passionate is there on VC. You should lookout whenever Kat have a VC in that server.
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    I think I have come across a video of @thehotelambush
    LII makes sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by necrosebud View Post
    I think I have come across a video of @thehotelambush
    LII makes sense

    yes, he seems LII to me also. Could you link the video? I don't think I have seen it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    yes, he seems LII to me also. Could you link the video? I don't think I have seen it.
    Unfortunately it’s buried somewhere on here and I don’t know where it is
    it was him interviewing another person iirc

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    There is an interview on my blog, albeit audio only. You'll have to find the video one yourself

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    @Tim

    I think Joy is a LSE. We conflicted a lot in the past. =D Idk she could be ESE I guess, Ni polr is evident however.

    I think sometimes SLEs get mistyped as SEEs because of the negative stigma associated with Betas & SLEs.

    So I agree with all your typings except I would put DEAD as a SLE & Joy as a LSE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BandD View Post
    @Tim

    I think Joy is a LSE. We conflicted a lot in the past. =D Idk she could be ESE I guess, Ni polr is evident however.

    I think sometimes SLEs get mistyped as SEEs because of the negative stigma associated with Betas & SLEs.

    So I agree with all your typings except I would put DEAD as a SLE & Joy as a LSE.
    I typed DEAD as an SEE because he doesn't care about emotions, emotional expression, and not disturbing the emotional atmosphere. SLE are Fe mobilizing. Also, DEAD valued pragmatism and productivity. Meanwhile, SLE could be pragmatic but they often downplay it due to being Te demonstrative. Similarly, I've seen a lot of SEE mistyping themselves as SLE because most self-identified MBTI ESTP are in fact SEE. Something ain't consistent in the Socionics model. If an SLE is not concerned about the emotional atmosphere but valued being competent and practical, then they are most likely mistyped. For example, Kiana once typed herself as SLE before realizing that she is SEE.

    Anyways, I'm gonna see what type DEAD is in voice chat in the Transcendence Discord server.

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    For example, Kiana once typed herself as SLE before realizing that she is SEE.


    Doesn't mean that applies to all SLEs, and a lot of people are just self-hating Betas that don't want to deal with it because they have a need to look good for society, or more righteous. Given the community stigma and perception of Betas as 'evil' - nobody would choose to seriously call themselves 'evil' because the evil person is always looked down upon. People have thought I was SEI before just because I'm not some sketchy drug dealer. And in almost every story or novel the 'evil' person always loses and gets their comeuppance- even in stories that try to be dark and edgy as possible. How do we not know that's not what Kiana isn't doing here? Plus the immense pressure in society for females to be F types and not T, etc.

    It's very possible she was right the first time- and just changed her mind because other people's bigotry and hatred of Betas got into her head.

    Anyway I don't understand what this compulsive need for the community to place DEAD as SEE, I don't see enough good logic or evidence of it personally. He often complains about not getting along too well with his LIE dad. Activity partners aren't really like that- they are a much more positive relationship than most people give them credit for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BandD View Post

    Doesn't mean that applies to all SLEs, and a lot of people are just self-hating Betas that don't want to deal with it because they have a need to look good for society, or more righteous. Given the community stigma and perception of Betas as 'evil' - nobody would choose to seriously call themselves 'evil' because the evil person is always looked down upon. People have thought I was SEI before just because I'm not some sketchy drug dealer. And in almost every story or novel the 'evil' person always loses and gets their comeuppance- even in stories that try to be dark and edgy as possible. How do we not know that's not what Kiana isn't doing here? Plus the immense pressure in society for females to be F types and not T, etc.

    It's very possible she was right the first time- and just changed her mind because other people's bigotry and hatred of Betas got into her head.

    Anyway I don't understand what this compulsive need for the community to place DEAD as SEE, I don't see enough good logic or evidence of it personally. He often complains about not getting along too well with his LIE dad. Activity partners aren't really like that- they are a much more positive relationship than most people give them credit for.
    I made that whole thread about beta stigma.. Beta stigma used to make me mistype as EII, though I initially was considering IEI at the very beginning. It’s all the damned delta mostly, who just tarnish us and deem us as dramatic and attention seeking. I even on my Quora get deemed as such, when I just fucking am processing my life in a way that is natural to me and it’s not a matter of gaining attention, but just expressing myself. Surprisingly, the most understanding about this (aside from SLE), has been an LIE-Ni (Stugg), but he studies the shit out of typology, so there is that. Even my profile picture on Quora of myself crying.. That’s just me expressing myself man. If I wanted get attention with that, I would not do that, because it pushes most people away and draws away attention, lol. Then I’m an enneagram 4 of course, but majority of the time I really am just expressing myself because that’s what I do, and I as an Fe user, externalize my emotion.
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    I honestly think Beta is the least common Quadra and hence it also makes it lesser understood by others as well as not as tolerated. Emotional expression in society is shit upon.

    Society is built in a very Te way. Education, business. And then alpha def is more prevalent than than is beta, most parts of world. Apart of it can again, be fewer people want normalize then intensity of beta, hence it is harder breed us.
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    Most people equate beta behavior with cluster B, lol. And maybe beta is more likely to develop a cluster B, but people go about calling normal beta behavior cluster B, that is not cluster B shit. People don’t understand emotional expression since it is “not allowed”, and people don’t understand rough play with Se.
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    Because it is less prevalent, it is seen as an illness and flaw, because most people are not as expressive.

    I think beta is best as least common anyhow, as if everyone rebelled, world would be chaotic and unable function. It survival-wise, makes sense we would be the least common.
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    Yeah @Braingel I don't blame Kiana for doing that- I understand it so well. I think it's a mistake to mis-identify yourself based on it- but trust me, I get it.

    Nobody wants to be the bad guy - it's said in a way that's a bad thing to be ((ie it's bad to not realize your own bad-ness)) , but people don't want to be the bad guy for a very good reason. The bad guy goes to prison, loses his family & friends. His reputation and status. The bad guy loses everything. Not only does he lose everything, the bad guy gets sent to Hell and is sadistically tortured... forever. So naturally everybody in society has to warp their selfish narcissism and darker traits into something that appears to be benevolent and good even when it isn't. Beta with our Se/Ni valuing and our Te/Fi devaluing is just the quadra that can see through this the most.

    Like Northstar was saying- Betas are often thought of as 'evil' because we are the quadra that is most non-hypocritically attached to our 'animalistic' desires. This comes off as more evil to some. And so then if a Beta does happen to be evil or willfully chooses to do something evil, it gives the entire quadra its stigma.

    Society is built in a very Te way.
    Yes, that is another layer to it. Te/Fi cloaks themselves in righteousness & morality when it's just incredibly personal and selfish shit. ((because Te is intrinsically linked with selfish Fi desires.)) But because it's Te and not Fe - it's not really seen as the selfishness & narcissism that it is.

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    You know what is interesting is society is so Te and we IEI have it as PolR, and most musicians (and famous cases) that have committed suicide have been IEI— Chester Bennington, Kurt Cobain, Ian Curtis, River Phoenix half committed (he wanted die, but it was official drug overdose).. Dylan Kleboid is murder suicide.

    I think Avicci could have been IEI..
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    And it’s always in the late teens and early twenties, when society expects you be more adult and Te-like, when the suicidal mostly happen.

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    Most are enneagram 4 too, that have committed (of those IEI)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BandD View Post
    Yeah @Braingel I don't blame Kiana for doing that- I understand it so well. I think it's a mistake to mis-identify yourself based on it- but trust me, I get it.

    Nobody wants to be the bad guy - it's said in a way that's a bad thing to be ((ie it's bad to not realize your own bad-ness)) , but people don't want to be the bad guy for a very good reason. The bad guy goes to prison, loses his family & friends. His reputation and status. The bad guy loses everything. Not only does he lose everything, the bad guy gets sent to Hell and is sadistically tortured... forever. So naturally everybody in society has to warp their selfish narcissism and darker traits into something that appears to be benevolent and good even when it isn't. Beta with our Se/Ni valuing and our Te/Fi devaluing is just the quadra that can see through this the most.

    Like Northstar was saying- Betas are often thought of as 'evil' because we are the quadra that is most non-hypocritically attached to our 'animalistic' desires. This comes off as more evil to some. And so then if a Beta does happen to be evil or willfully chooses to do something evil, it gives the entire quadra its stigma.



    Yes, that is another layer to it. Te/Fi cloaks themselves in righteousness & morality when it's just incredibly personal and selfish shit. ((because Te is intrinsically linked with selfish Fi desires.)) But because it's Te and not Fe - it's not really seen as the selfishness & narcissism that it is.
    Yeah people even typed me EIE to insult me. I rejected beta NF for a long ass while, but got around as to it, but lol, I definitely am not an EIE, even if I do mirror superficially, an Fe base. Ashton and pansophy helped to propagate me being delta NF, but Pan is considering beta for me now.. Ashton probably will always view me as a delta unless he met me.

    People are just like, “She expresses emotions. EIE.” But.. My Si is not quite bad enough to be PolR, and my Te is too trash to be 2D. Don’t ignore Fi.. Ne ignoring is only case for me not being IEI, but I can be creative DCNH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Braingel View Post
    I don't really know a whole lot of people here...

    I think Tim is definitely an SLE, and Raptorwizard I don't know yet, because there are factors on him that need eliminating. The only way I could accurately type Raptor is via voice or video call.
    Tim is very definitely SLE. He makes sudden realistic impressions of people that are tinged with harshness though that may not be the purpose of the statement itself but that are definitely associated with Se. And, Ti helps him organize and categorize thoughts into clear categories. I have known him for a while now. He is smart.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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