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    @ShiningLunette

    it's possibly your type is not EII as you suppose now

    your art taste has victimish content
    profile's title: "Magical girl (◠‿・)ó☆" - esoterics is Ni region
    among close to EII are EIE/IEI which fit that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    @ShiningLunette

    it's possibly your type is not EII as you suppose now

    your art taste has victimish content
    profile's title: "Magical girl (◠‿・)—☆" - esoterics is Ni region
    among close to EII are EIE/IEI which fit that.
    its unusual to judge a person typing solely by their art or aesthetic preference since it isn't a good indicator because there isn't really a consistent pattern divided by what people like. Anyway i'm never usually certain with anything. But i 100% certain about Se polr so its either EII or LII for me.
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    @ShiningLunette
    I'd want to see videos of all who claims to be my dual. To understand better the types, certainly.
    Especially when those are women.

    Among those who claimed that in recent times all appeared to have other types.

    @ooo *sigh*

    Even among those who I typed to EII was the same. It's a doom. Just no better explanation.
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    i'll have to feel safe enough to consider posting personal or private things. So i guess i'll see.

    Also, are u implying ur the only expert enough to accurately judge? are u saying i or someone else will not be able accurately judge myself or type people but only you are able to?
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    Typology communities are full of narcissistic elitists who love to smell their own farts. Typology gives them the tools and the excuse to cherry-pick an image in a make believe world, and to use that to feel superior to others. Typology is useful if it helps you to think about your life and your relationships, but some people are obviously there to validate their self-image and anti-social behaviour.
    Sure, and everything is/can be valuable. Self-reference is a beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    @ShiningLunette

    it's possibly your type is not EII as you suppose now

    your art taste has victimish content
    profile's title: "Magical girl (◠‿・)ó☆" - esoterics is Ni region
    among close to EII are EIE/IEI which fit that.
    You are always saying how EII are kind, gentle and never rude, then as if by "magic" a girl shows up who appears to be just that so you promptly retype her beta NF based on very little information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    You are always saying how EII are kind, gentle and never rude, then as if by "magic" a girl shows up who appears to be just that so you promptly retype her beta NF based on very little information.
    Maybe it’s a test lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    You are always saying how EII are kind, gentle and never rude
    Nice to notice your interest to types, as you've removed your IEI from the profile.

    People having leading Fi value and are able to be emotionally pleasant the most among types, so they communicate the most softly among types.
    I never said that EII are never rude. No one is perfect and anyone may do anything. A type predisposes to some behavior and so that behavior happens _more often_ compared to differing types.
    The difference of Fi type compared to Fe is the degree, how often and contexts where they are rude. There is a different common level of the trait for differing types. If base Fi type is annoyed much and by good reason - he may become rude, but to get the same from Fe is much easier. To understand more clearly such nuances in behavior of types helps an experience and types examples.

    The more of not common and not expected by base theory in a behavior for a type - the lesser possibility that type is correct. To be rude for base Fi is similar as for base Ni to ignore own foreboding. As for base Te to ignore or have no interest to facts and objectivity. If the degree of so unusual behavior is significant, seen not rarely and without unusually strong external factors pushing to that - there is significant possibility of other type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Nice to notice your interest to types, as you've removed your IEI from the profile.

    People having leading Fi value and are able to be emotionally pleasant the most among types, so they communicate the most softly among types.
    I never said that EII are never rude. No one is perfect and anyone may do anything. A type predisposes to some behavior and so that behavior happens _more often_ compared to differing types.
    The difference of Fi type compared to Fe is the degree, how often and contexts where they are rude. There is a different common level of the trait for differing types. If base Fi type is annoyed much and by good reason - he may become rude, but to get the same from Fe is much easier. To understand more clearly such nuances in behavior of types helps an experience and types examples.

    The more of not common and not expected by base theory in a behavior for a type - the lesser possibility that type is correct. To be rude for base Fi is similar as for base Ni to ignore own foreboding. As for base Te to ignore or have no interest to facts and objectivity. If the degree of so unusual behavior is significant, seen not rarely and without unusually strong external factors pushing to that - there is significant possibility of other type.

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    lol

    Don't worry sol I didn't retype myself or anything since I have never put IEI in my TIM. I did joke around and put SLE once which you scolded me for.

    You have said that EII are "lesser rude" or similar.

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    Fi base are actually among the most rude people around ime
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    I have never put IEI in my TIM
    My memory is not very clear about this. Remember your opinion as IEI and that related to types was there.

    > You have said that EII are "lesser rude" or similar.

    This one I said.
    I even have a "scientific experiment". Among two girls which I typed to EII, annoyed a little and then retyped to EIE and ESI. EIE has started to insult me by "bad words" after ~3 monthes, while ESI after ~2 years. It's seen that base Fi are more polite in several times!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    I even have a "scientific experiment". Among two girls which I typed to EII, annoyed a little and then retyped to EIE and ESI. EIE has started to insult me by "bad words" after ~3 monthes, while ESI after ~2 years. It's seen that base Fi are more polite in several times!
    This isn't an experiment, it's just you typing by your already established opinions. Confirmation bias is a real thing.

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    @justalitnerdxx
    as the typing thread was censorshiped, opinions are placed here

    Your nick contains the term "nerd" - you perceive yourself so. This term is usually applied to technically interested intellectuals - relates to T.

    also
    The problem of typers alike Gulenko by Internet is that they mostly use _words_. They know a few about you, but try to type by the limited behavior shown in the typing process - where it's not hard to control yourself.
    While words are easily to be changed, to filter the objectivity to influence to be typed to some type. The ones who know Jung types theory and have an opinion about own type or wish to have some type may significantly distort own description related to types, intentionally and not.
    If typers used nonverbal behavior as main data (as I prefer) - there would be lesser possibility to be misleaded by this way.

    You have 2 types in your profile: EII and IEI from Gulenko. As for example, you was inclined to think your type as F before typed by Gulenko - you could significantly fool him.

    When a random forum's noob has agreed with IEI with a useless comment, you've wrote a glad reply. You've commented other noobs also. When I've pointed on your more possible T type based on your videos - you have ignored. You may to have emotional motivation to think your type as F. Emotions and truth in a thinking - match not good. This could be among reasons why you doubted in your type for years, - as did not wanted to accept a truth due emotions, while there was enough time for this.
    You've closed the thread soon without rational reasons - because of negative emotions from opinions that your type may be other than you want.

    The main use of Socionics is IR theory. It can and should be used to understand own type and the typology. Mistakes in types with the usage of IR theory lead to problems. With the emotional approach to own typing you are predisposed to mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post

    Your nick contains the term "nerd" - you perceive yourself so. This term is usually applied to technically interested intellectuals - relates to T.
    I think her name means " a lit(erature) nerd", not something that relates to the technical intellectual interests - not that this an argument anyways.
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    Yeah, actually down to her core she is Łber rational LSE stressed out of her unfortunate womanhood which disturbs her logical faculties in extremely drastic manner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    @justalitnerdxx
    as the typing thread was censorshiped, opinions are placed here

    Your nick contains the term "nerd" - you perceive yourself so. This term is usually applied to technically interested intellectuals - relates to T.

    also
    The problem of typers alike Gulenko by Internet is that they mostly use _words_. They know a few about you, but try to type by the limited behavior shown in the typing process - where it's not hard to control yourself.
    While words are easily to be changed, to filter the objectivity to influence to be typed to some type. The ones who know Jung types theory and have an opinion about own type or wish to have some type may significantly distort own description related to types, intentionally and not.
    If typers used nonverbal behavior as main data (as I prefer) - there would be lesser possibility to be misleaded by this way.

    You have 2 types in your profile: EII and IEI from Gulenko. As for example, you was inclined to think your type as F before typed by Gulenko - you could significantly fool him.

    When a random forum's noob has agreed with IEI with a useless comment, you've wrote a glad reply. You've commented other noobs also. When I've pointed on your more possible T type based on your videos - you have ignored. You may to have emotional motivation to think your type as F. Emotions and truth in a thinking - match not good. This could be among reasons why you doubted in your type for years, - as did not wanted to accept a truth due emotions, while there was enough time for this.
    You've closed the thread soon without rational reasons - because of negative emotions from opinions that your type may be other than you want.

    The main use of Socionics is IR theory. It can and should be used to understand own type and the typology. Mistakes in types with the usage of IR theory lead to problems. With the emotional approach to own typing you are predisposed to mistake.
    I closed the thread actually because I felt it was misplaced and misguided. I do appreciate all feedback on my typing - I am not censoring based on people giving me different opinions. I do appreciate your opinion as I appreciate others and I do apologise if Iíve given you any other impression. I believe you consider me LII now? I have to be candid and say thatís not a type Iíve considered. I have believed Iím an Ethical rather than a Logical type though that said, it is possible that you are right and Iíve been naive to not consider ever being a Logical type. I am sincere when I say I will be looking into this.

    I have been struggling with typing for years. I am not the only one though so I donít appreciate being made to feel stupid and wrong for not being confident in my own assessments and understandings.

    This is all Iíll say respectfully now on the matter. Iím taking (yet another) step back. I do appreciate insights from yourself and others, but I donít want to discuss further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiana View Post
    Yeah you’re definitely not SLE. You can’t utilize Ti through a soggy paper bag. You were trying to pathetically throw a nasty Ne Fi jab at me about the tattoo comment implying that I got tattoos to fit my typing. You can’t fake cognition. You can claim you’re Se but there’s none coming from you. When you feel threatened you demand others back their points but you don’t back up yours and then make Ne implications that have no real bearing on the topic just to throw people off.


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    Just doing some winter housecleaning....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    Just doing some winter housecleaning....
    @woofwoofl SEE
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    @Suspiria EIE
    @kingslayer EIE (80%)
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    EIE? Fe base? Interesting.. How come?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingslayer View Post
    EIE? Fe base? Interesting.. How come?
    I've hung out with a few EIE dudes before and seen some online. You vibe way more like them than any SLE I've known.

    Still 20% chance of being wrong. I'm not absolutely certain. But I feel like it fits better. Beta STs are more like @Northstar or CS Hyatt. You're a lot closer to Robert Anton Wilson in terms of how you come off to others. You're warm and gregarious more than intently sensory or logical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    I've hung out with a few EIE dudes before and seen some online. You vibe way more like them than any SLE I've known.

    Still 20% chance of being wrong. I'm not absolutely certain. But I feel like it fits better. Beta STs are more like @Northstar.
    I hear ya ... It's possible.

    to quote SBBDS "You're the kind of SLE Gulenko would type SEE" so could be some fe boosted one

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingslayer View Post
    I hear ya ... It's possible.

    to quote SBBDS "You're the kind of SLE Gulenko would type SEE" so could be some fe boosted one
    I think a lot of people misunderstand Se and Fe. Fe "feels" like it would be Se because Socionists associate Se with a sense of force. And they often feel force around EIEs, but it's an emotional force they feel, not sensory. Any Se they have is still noticeable. Strong Se isn't felt like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    I think a lot of people misunderstand Se and Fe. Fe "feels" like it would be Se because Socionists associate Se with a sense of force. And they often feel force around EIEs, but it's an emotional force they feel, not sensory.
    Actually eie was the first typing I ever gave myself when I found socioncis. However as I studied the system more I learned my ti and si are too good for it. In fact my biggest beef with the typing is si polr. I feel like I'm pretty in touch with si

    Jon has me as ESE.. perhaps that could fit better? Both fe base

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingslayer View Post
    Actually eie was the first typing I ever gave myself when I found socioncis. However as I studied the system more I learned my ti and si are too good for it. In fact my biggest beef with the typing is si polr. I feel like I'm pretty in touch with si

    Jon has me as ESE.. perhaps that could fit better? Both fe base
    I think EIE. ESE is more like @heptayooooo. Or however many O's are in his name lol.

    The thing about polr is that you don't know how bad you are at it because you're that bad at it.

    The introverted polrs are not as apparent anyway. They're less glaring errors and more really small mistakes or critical blunders.

    Or if they do make some kind of social faux pas it's something like not noticing the discomfort of other people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    I think EIE. ESE is more like @heptayooooo. Or however many O's are in his name lol.

    The thing about polr is that you don't know how bad you are at it because you're that bad at it.

    The introverted polrs are not as apparent anyway. They're less glaring errors and more really small mistakes or critical blunders.

    Or if they do make some kind of social faux pas it's something like not noticing the discomfort of other people.
    Yeah that's not me. I'm really quick at seeing how I make others feel..



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    Also this makes Si sound like it's in my ego block, or at least valued. Maybe I'm ILE. Looks similar to EIE. NE base have the most trouble typing themselves from w hat I read. They can consider all sorts of types and shit and see themselves that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingslayer View Post
    Actually eie was the first typing I ever gave myself when I found socioncis. However as I studied the system more I learned my ti and si are too good for it. In fact my biggest beef with the typing is si polr. I feel like I'm pretty in touch with si

    Jon has me as ESE.. perhaps that could fit better? Both fe base
    Quote Originally Posted by kingslayer View Post
    Yeah that's not me. I'm really quick at seeing how I make others feel..



    Types that value Si prefer to spend their time doing enjoyable activities rather than straining themselves to achieve goals. They like to believe that if activities are done with enjoyment, people will give them more effort and time, and also becoming more skilled at what they are doing in the long run. They believe that goals should suit people's intrinsic needs rather than shaped by the demands and constraints of the external world, and so do not try to force others into doing things they don't want to do. They also try to be easygoing and pleasant, preferring peaceful coexistence to conflict, except when their personal well-being or comfort is directly at stake.

    Also this makes Si sound like it's in my ego block, or at least valued. Maybe I'm ILE. Looks similar to EIE. NE base have the most trouble typing themselves from w hat I read. They can consider all sorts of types and shit and see themselves that way.
    Maybe emotionally but I don't know about sensory comfort. I remember you showing me a picture of you standing with your coworkers, and you had that mack daddy vibe going while there was at least one person in the photo who didn't seem all that comfy lol. But you didn't really notice or take that into account. Fe is not so much about noticing others feelings as affecting the feelings of others anyway. Fe is Fi ignoring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    Maybe emotionally but I don't know about sensory comfort. I remember you showing me a picture of you standing with your coworkers, and you had that mack daddy vibe going while there was at least one person in the photo who didn't seem all that comfy lol. But you didn't really notice or take that into account. Fe is not so much about noticing others feelings as affecting the feelings of others anyway. Fe is Fi ignoring.
    Ahh.. I know the pic you mean. Actually I did notice. I purposely hovered my arm cause I saw he was already uncomfortable and I wanted to make him more so for the lolz. He was uncomfortable because he hates taking pics not because of me. I just upped his discomfort to amuse the other guy in the pic and myself cause he's always such an asshole it was funny to see him vulnerable from things as simple as picture taking and close physical contact.

    So yeah.. Seems too good for Polr.. I'm always fixing my friends postures and my own as well, or telling people I live with to go sit in another chair for work because it's bad for their back the one they're using for so many hours.

    The 3rd guy in that pic is actually EIE

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingslayer View Post
    Ahh.. I know the pic you mean. Actually I did notice. I purposely hovered my arm cause I saw he was already uncomfortable and I wanted to make him more so for the lolz. He was uncomfortable because he hates taking pics not because of me. I just upped his discomfort to amuse the other guy in the pic and myself cause he's always such an asshole it was funny to see him vulnerable from things as simple as picture taking and close physical contact.

    So yeah.. Seems too good for Polr.. I'm always fixing my friends postures and my own as well, or telling people I live with to go sit in another chair for work because it's bad for their back the one they're using for so many hours.

    The 3rd guy in that pic is actually EIE
    Upped his discomfort to amuse someone? That doesn't sound EIE to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    Upped his discomfort to amuse someone? That doesn't sound EIE to you?
    Well I noticed his si and influenced it. Lol

    You said si polr doesn't notice even

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingslayer View Post
    Well I noticed his si and influenced it. Lol

    You said si polr doesn't notice even
    Hmm.. Maybe I was wrong about that one then. I'm pretty sure you're EIE. Figuring out the logical side of things takes a bit more effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    Hmm.. Maybe I was wrong about that one then. I'm pretty sure you're EIE. Figuring out the logical side of things takes a bit more effort.
    Could be SEI then.. similair to eie with savy Si.. I do look a bit similair to Dwayne wade expressions wise (sei) . But idk now I'm getting confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingslayer View Post
    Could be SEI then.. similair to eie with savy Si.. I do look a bit similair to Dwayne wade expressions wise (sei) . But idk now I'm getting confused
    SEI is more like Audrey Hepburn or Nate Richert. Or Britney Spears or Gabriel Iglesias maybe. I'm less sure about Iglesias. I can tell when they look at me what they are lol. Trust me, the Mack daddy thing is particularly EIE lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    SEI is more like Audrey Hepburn or Nate Richert. Or Britney Spears or Gabriel Iglesias maybe. I'm less sure about Iglesias. I can tell when they look at me what they are lol. Trust me, the Mack daddy thing is particularly EIE lol.
    Well ty, I'm flattered. I just think my si and ti are too good for EIE that's all.


    Maybe you were seeing an LSI's inverse EIE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingslayer View Post
    Well ty, I'm flattered. I just think my si and ti are too good for EIE that's all.
    This is you lol. Dave Chappelle's impression of Rick James is EIE as fuck and so is Rick James lol. The caricature makes it easy to see the Si mistakes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    The introverted polrs are not as apparent anyway. They're less glaring errors and more really small mistakes or critical blunders.
    Lol you wish. Extraverted polrs are pretty easy to spot for extraverts; they look like self-sabotaging where someone doesn't do anything even though he should in his own interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkdhf qkb View Post
    Lol you wish. Extraverted polrs are pretty easy to spot for extraverts; they look like self-sabotaging where someone doesn't do anything even though he should in his own interest.
    Read my post again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    This is you lol. Dave Chappelle's impression of Rick James is EIE as fuck and so is Rick James lol. The caricature makes it easy to see the Si mistakes.

    Noo that's not me.. I'm like Billy Butcher from The boys man. very similar
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingslayer View Post
    Noo that's not me.. I'm like Billy Butcher from The boys man. very similar/url]
    Eh that video doesn't really show him. This is better. Have given similar speeches to friends lol

    https://youtu.be/DtRuU71kuQE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    Read my post again.
    I did. Doesn't change that extraverted Polrs(Se, Fe, Te, Ne) are apparent because of the absence of reaction to external stimuli in the best case, and shocking reactions against them at worst. Doesn't change that it's the same weakness as introverted Polrs: denial or misperception of reality. What now boss? I read it again again? No, I have a better idea, you read my posts again
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