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    Quote Originally Posted by Quez View Post
    I tagged you because I thought it was courteous and the opinion could be constructive, not what you implied.
    Haha, wasn't talking about you. I was talking of Sol. It was just too out of nowhere and I don't know them, so it was kinda like.... what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flames View Post
    @sbbds I’m so relieved to see you again. I need you, @Alonzo and @voider back in my forum life. The trio of truthtellers.

    Oh and:

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    Truth is, you're f*cking sexy. Peace out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Something View Post
    Haha, wasn't talking about you. I was talking of Sol. It was just too out of nowhere and I don't know them, so it was kinda like.... what.
    That's just Sol, he quite stubbornly types me an Fe-valuing type too, lol. It seems like he may have some confusion surrounding Fi. He thinks Fi ego types are incapable of being "rude".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quez View Post
    @Aaron Something SLE (maybe EIE)

    Irrational lead. Major Se, but also very "flair-y" - Fe. Too combative for no reason than EIEs imo though. VI from profile pic fits one of Filatova's SLEs 99%, but Aaron's obviously-forced&dramaticized eye expression shows what I said about the Fe thing. Also fits EIE VI.
    I'd respectfully disagree, IEE works for him, prob Fi subtype. No way his generalisations and poking about intent and stuff are Se, they are totally Ne>Se

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreenfaerie View Post
    That's just Sol, he quite stubbornly types me an Fe-valuing type too, lol. It seems like he may have some confusion surrounding Fi. He thinks Fi ego types are incapable of being "rude".
    Now, it's not fair for us to pay for his ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpyvic81 View Post
    I'd respectfully disagree, IEE works for him, prob Fi subtype. No way his generalisations and poking about intent and stuff are Se, they are totally Ne>Se
    My smart conflictor should I really call you that then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreenfaerie View Post
    That's just Sol, he quite stubbornly types me an Fe-valuing type too, lol. It seems like he may have some confusion surrounding Fi. He thinks Fi ego types are incapable of being "rude".
    Isn't it rather both Fe leads and Fi leads who are supposedly not rude without a good ethical reason ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    in my case actually in that asians' eyes are too small and dark to look
    You've distorted the said.

    > plus different kinds of expressions based on culture

    There is no data that emotions in other nations are expressed principally differently. Situations for concrete emotions may differ by a culture.

    > It's also considered taboo to look into people's eyes, so I don't really get the correct practice

    If you have the significant lack of the experience, then the skills may be affected. With closer people there should be informal communications and no such limitations, what should reduce this factor.

    > I can't really imagine not using a person's entire body language or their entire facial expression at least to discern what they're feeling.

    think about this as your hiden super power

    > Everybody looks like my avatar, basically. What is that little bear feeling? Tell me if you have some idea.

    To make everybody look like your avatar may need the substances which I have no in first aid kit, unfortunately. So the result can't be representative. Though, my state and typology skills allow to understand that you have F type. And that your bad test results can be explained by other race of examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpyvic81 View Post
    I'd respectfully disagree, IEE works for him, prob Fi subtype. No way his generalisations and poking about intent and stuff are Se, they are totally Ne>Se
    You have to consider his display of anti-"Ti" is because he's bad at it* + SLE is the most Ego-defensive type by miles. So his 'throw shit spaghetti-to-a-wall' style is nothing more than an attempt to shut up people trying to get psychologically close (classic SLE thing, written all over + directly from inaLim an SLE's mouth in the Fi PoLR thread). As for stuff about "intent", in order to properly navigate the world for some things you need to know "intent".

    Regardless, if I'm wrong, no worries. My intent was not to battletype him, but to be constructive. I will keep him as a possible "IEE" in mind to better define the model IEE for me, but like I said he definitely did not fit my mold - so he's either not IEE, or my model is wrong.


    * Not all "T" types are > "F" types at "logic". Not all T types have good/above-average "IQ". Etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron Something View Post
    Haha, wasn't talking about you. I was talking of Sol. It was just too out of nowhere and I don't know them, so it was kinda like.... what.
    My mistake lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quez View Post
    You have to consider his display of anti-"Ti" is because he's bad at it* + SLE is the most Ego-defensive type by miles. So his 'throw shit spaghetti-to-a-wall' style is nothing more than an attempt to shut up people trying to get psychologically close (classic SLE thing, written all over + directly from inaLim an SLE's mouth in the Fi PoLR thread). As for stuff about "intent", in order to properly navigate the world for some things you need to know "intent".

    Regardless, if I'm wrong, no worries. My intent was not to battletype him, but to be constructive. I will keep him as a possible "IEE" in mind to better define the model IEE for me, but like I said he definitely did not fit my mold - so he's either not IEE, or my model is wrong.


    * Not all "T" types are > "F" types at "logic". Not all T types have good/above-average "IQ". Etc.
    What I said in the Fi PoLR thread does not have anything to do with "trying to shut people up." If you need clarification, ask me in the other thread and I can elaborate. I don't want to derail this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inaLim View Post
    What I said in the Fi PoLR thread does not have anything to do with "trying to shut people up." If you need clarification, ask me in the other thread and I can elaborate. I don't want to derail this one.
    I worded that bit very poorly. I apologize. What I was referring to is SLE'S characteristic trait of in general the feeling of psychological closeness (in other words, keeping people at arm's length). If you disagree you admitted to this in that thread, I'll delete reference to you in the aforementioned post.

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    New Addition: (1) Sbbds (IEE-Fi)

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...ender-Identity

    ^'NUFF SAID...

    ILE-Ti: Myst, Transkar, LuchoisLurking, JWC3, MadCity, Troll NR 007, Falsehope
    ILE-Ne: Geneiouws, Lagerdemon, Cubazoan, Nickelslick, Hitta, dangerbird89

    ESE-Fe: Chipsnunderwear, Suz, Inumbra, Subteigh, Kalinoche, FlutteringShyx, Mrrrmaid, Fardraft
    ESE-Si: Mu4, Wacey, Xerx, Esaman, KrigtheViking, Hacim, Little Timmy,

    LII-Ti: N0ki/Zap, Muddy, Reactance, User Name, Bertrand, Etar
    LII-Ne: Kimuchi/kimu, Zero, Vers, Vesstheastralsilky

    SEI-Si: johannesbloem, chriscorey, the whole English, lelelewomanwomanwoman, Megatrop, Emily
    SEI-Fe: BnD, crazedrat, dinky, Neokortex, Pallas Athena, Coeruleum, gammavsbeta

    SLE-Se: herzy, mercutio/satan, ananke, idontgiveaf
    SLE-Ti: agee, kill4me

    LSI-Se: Spider, Missbabydoll, Pole, Aramas, Karatos, Northstar
    LSI-Ti: Rocky, Hamouchou

    IEI-Fe: Allie, Pink, SisofNight, Cassandra, Fay, Summer Princess, Xiavay
    IEI-Ni: Starfall/Fox, Glam, Elina, Strrrng, Velvet, Penny Dreadful, Beamerboy

    EIE-Fe: Cuivienen, Alonzo
    EIE-Ni: Gilly, Darya, Bain, Sarinana

    SEE-Se: Woofwoofl, Handjob, Number9Large
    SEE-Fi: Lucas, Aquagraph, Chae, Vogue Paris, Totalize, Schwiftyrickity, Niko

    LIE-Ni: Ineffable, Moonraker, Avebury
    LIE-Te: Ashton, FDG, Expat, Invisiblehim, Narc, Anglas

    ESI-Se: DiscoJoe, EJArendee, Jet City Woman, MisterNi, Scarletluxx, Amber/Rosewood, Strangeling, Oppai Anschluss
    ESI-Fi: Lungs, Golden, Ouronis, Radio, Suedehead, Galen, Kore/Persephone, Delilah, the Locust, Saiorse, Hag

    ILI-Ni: Scapegrace, Korpsey, Krieger, Cpig, InvisibleJim, Floozy
    ILI-Te: Marie, Mensupermateriam, Aestrivex, Crispy, Soupman

    SLI-Si: Words, Stray, Scarper, LuminousLynx, Lord Pixel
    SLI-Te: kim, daft punk, directorabbie, pookie, Jessica, may, supremacist, plasmatorpedo1043, Araz, Khcs

    LSE-Te: Absurd, JimBean, QueenTiger
    LSE-Si: William, JackOliverAaron/Echidna1000, BurningIce, Timmy, Smilingeyes, Laurie’s Crusader, Viktor, Kingslayer

    IEE-Ne: Elizathomason, UDP, Sapphire, Syrup De Gem, Pinoline, Azbestos, Nanashi, VenusRose
    IEE-Fi: Finale/Finaplex, Airman/airborne, Adam Strange, Prince Andrei, Niffer, Eos, Sbbds

    EII-Ne: Aylen, Epheme, Wasp, Tpaduan, User123
    EII-Fi: maritsa/beautiful sky, mikemex, IBTL, contra, sol, suintal/silke, tela/arachne, Olimpia, thehotelambush, Yaaroslav, Safsom2

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    @Kill4Me

    At least you are consistent. Sbbds = Niffer, and you typed both IEE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COOM View Post
    @Kill4Me

    At least you are consistent. Sbbds = Niffer, and you typed both IEE.
    No he's not. He typed the same person (SisofNight/Olimpia) as IEI and EII. He also typed me as both a 9w1 and a 9w8 in the enneagram thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everlast View Post
    No he's not. He typed the same person (SisofNight/Olimpia) as IEI and EII. He also typed me as both a 9w1 and a 9w8 in the enneagram thread.
    I'm well aware. He is consistent in this instance. I don't know what do you think you are correcting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COOM View Post
    I'm well aware. He is consistent in this instance. I don't know what do you think you are correcting.
    Bullshit.

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    Lol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post
    New Addition: (1) Sbbds (IEE-Fi)

    More like highly erratic super ego mood swings.
    Measuring you right now

    Winning is for losers

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by COOM View Post
    At least you are consistent. Sbbds = Niffer, and you typed both IEE.
    it's close to her real type IEI. if he'd took into account that Fi types talk more polite and Ne are not fans of strange Se-sex - he'd could be closer

    Quote Originally Posted by Everlast View Post
    Bullshit.
    so pedantic grammar
    mb you Ti indeed
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    Quote Originally Posted by COVID 007 View Post
    More like highly erratic super ego mood swings.
    I highly doubt it's got anything at all with astronics.

    It's what's called emotional dysregulation if we want to do some real psychology here.

    It's fixable alright though, it doesn't have to be personality at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quez View Post
    You have to consider his display of anti-"Ti" is because he's bad at it* + SLE is the most Ego-defensive type by miles. So his 'throw shit spaghetti-to-a-wall' style is nothing more than an attempt to shut up people trying to get psychologically close (classic SLE thing, written all over + directly from inaLim an SLE's mouth in the Fi PoLR thread). As for stuff about "intent", in order to properly navigate the world for some things you need to know "intent".

    Regardless, if I'm wrong, no worries. My intent was not to battletype him, but to be constructive. I will keep him as a possible "IEE" in mind to better define the model IEE for me, but like I said he definitely did not fit my mold - so he's either not IEE, or my model is wrong.


    * Not all "T" types are > "F" types at "logic". Not all T types have good/above-average "IQ". Etc.
    Your model is wrong. @thegreenfaerie, @Aaron Something and I are identicals (I relate to their flow of thought too and we speak the same language). It could be something else but we have this *click* in common

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatrop View Post
    Your model is wrong. @thegreenfaerie, @Aaron Something and I are identicals (I relate to their flow of thought too and we speak the same language). It could be something else but we have this *click* in common
    And the fact Quez says he's being constructive yet implying I have low IQ is kind of like, I don't know, shoving a fist up your own asshole while taking a shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatrop View Post
    Your model is wrong. @thegreenfaerie, @Aaron Something and I are identicals (I relate to their flow of thought too and we speak the same language). It could be something else but we have this *click* in common
    awww

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatrop View Post
    Your model is wrong. @thegreenfaerie, @Aaron Something and I are identicals (I relate to their flow of thought too
    The main typing problem is how the same theory is used - there are many ways for this, much of speculativity of behavior's interpretations. The lesser - baseless theories alike Reinin's traits.

    You differ much in talking and argumentation/thinking styles from thegreenfaerie, for example. You are much lesser emotional in talking. Very predisposed to do strict and baseless Ti related assertions, unlike her.
    You remind T-I types, more LSI. She some F, more for SEI.
    Among reasons for your sympathy to her mb IR, for example as suborderie.

    Anyway, to suppose types of people which are not IRL near to you and good known needs significantly better typing skills than forum's noobs generally have.

    Base Fi value comfortable emotions, while you aggressively press people without good reasons. Idealize your Ti speculations and playing by baseless theories. You are much assured in your Ti conclusions and unreasonably fail in Fi. Models - Ti, how to use them - Te. Your grammar nitpicking before - Ti too. You care about Ti as it should be your valued. Having this you suppose as your type having leading Fi, while Ti as not valued and weak (and hence where you have doubts to be mostly restrained).
    In assigning to yourself INFJ, you miss these contradictions and the problem is not in your model - you more ignore the basics of the model and unable to use it appropriately, to assign correctly weights on the known facts. The similar main problem is with other cases when mistake in types.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Models - Ti, how to use them - Te. Your grammar nitpicking before - Ti too.
    U fokin wot m8. Btw Sol it seems u are also a Ti user since you logically make assertions that have no evidence in facts but are logically assumed based on arguments alone, not facts per se.
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    Sol, you're English sucks ass. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    it's close to her real type IEI. if he'd took into account that Fi types talk more polite and Ne are not fans of strange Se-sex - he'd could be closer
    I doubt it. If I lose my patience with IEIs I usually burn bridges so hard that I become public enemy #1, which I don't really mind. IEIs are snowflakes. If we cross paths and they won't stop bringing my name then I will make sure that they and their friends don't enjoy staying in my presence, and I will invade their space. Also, my hatred for feelers in general is stronger. I can't stand people who are supposed to be good with feelings but constantly put me in bad mood. If I really lose my head I become the thing I hate. Vindictive and impulsive. But I can't even step outside of it. It remains like a constant feeling of anger and hatred towards the offender. I will never forgive them.

    I don't know if I grew out of it, but it has been years since I have treated someone like that. I don't feel that way towards sbbds either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    U fokin wot m8. Btw Sol it seems u are also a Ti user since you logically make assertions that have no evidence in facts but are logically assumed based on arguments alone, not facts per se.
    From one perspective, one could argue
    Putting models in practice is, in fact, often a combination of and . using 'models' is mostly unconscious and automatic, usually much too simplified to be called 'putting in practice'. With , the 'used' model is largely operational and emerging (thus dynamic), not static. The difference lies in nuances, but it's there.

    http://wikisocion.net/en/index.php?t...Maxim_Gorky.29

    LSIs have a strong command of how various systems, structures, and hierarchies around them work, and always have a clear idea of how to implement them and improve them.
    (not from aforementioned Aushra, but sums something up)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duschia View Post
    From one perspective, one could argue
    Putting models in practice is, in fact, often a combination of and . using 'models' is mostly unconscious and automatic, usually much too simplified to be called 'putting in practice'. With , the 'used' model is largely operational and emerging (thus dynamic), not static. The difference lies in nuances, but it's there.

    http://wikisocion.net/en/index.php?t...Maxim_Gorky.29

    LSIs have a strong command of how various systems, structures, and hierarchies around them work, and always have a clear idea of how to implement them and improve them.
    (not from aforementioned Aushra, but sums something up)
    Models like socionics are not necessarily 100% based on fact. Most of the arguments u make with socionics are based on socionics theory alone. Such as "this guy was monotone, therefore Fe polr". Its the perfect example of a Ti theory. Ti is always a little removed from reality, as is with all introverted functions, its more abstract and more loosely related to reality than the more grounded extraverted functions. The point im trying to make is that Sol who thinks his arguments are Te, are not based on fact but on stuff he argued out in his own head, such as "nitpicking is Ti". There is no source for that. He just made it up in his own mind based on whatever it is. It may only be loosely correlated to socionics theory, it isnt directly quotable, nor has there been research on that, which is what Te so heavily relies on: facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duschia View Post
    From one perspective, one could argue
    Putting models in practice is, in fact, often a combination of and . using 'models' is mostly unconscious and automatic, usually much too simplified to be called 'putting in practice'. With , the 'used' model is largely operational and emerging (thus dynamic), not static. The difference lies in nuances, but it's there.

    http://wikisocion.net/en/index.php?t...Maxim_Gorky.29

    LSIs have a strong command of how various systems, structures, and hierarchies around them work, and always have a clear idea of how to implement them and improve them.
    (not from aforementioned Aushra, but sums something up)
    I think "putting a model in practice" is very different than "fighting uncompromisingly to the point of impertinence for the implementation of a system or a dogma".


    Anyway, I think LSEs are more about disliking those who don't follow rules and trying to make ppl playing fair, while LSI is more just fighting for the implementation of a system to try to reach the power positions. Other author (dont remember exactly who now, mb it was Strat, not sure now), says LSI understands human systems to insert him/herself in there (Se). That's very different from using or understanding theoretical models such as socionics. Its more like looking at social structures and being able to get themselves in there to achieve wealth or power (Se). I mean, that's what socionics refers to.

    LSI
    1. A consistent adept. He is able to rationally and adequately choose the best of the available systems or dogmas and to fight for its implementation uncompromisingly up to the point of impertinence. He categorically rejects everything that cannot fit into this system, and perfects it to its ideal state. He is very consistent in the realization of his system, even when it comprises inconstancy. In this way Talleyrand succeeded in occupying the highest positions under Bourbons, the Convent, the Directory, Napoleon, and once again under Bourbons, and finally died prosperous and rich, which he has always strived for.

    LSE
    3. "Rage is a mighty god of the strong". He tends to take other people out of the condition of complacency. He does not speak much about what is good, considers it self-evident. With his grumbling emotions he strives to extinguish emotions of others. He believes that redundant emotions tire people, and this is absolutely true if applied to his dual (The Humanist). During a conversation he pressures his interlocutor, even tries to intimidate him, but if people do not fear him, he becomes courteous and polite. Fury is his line of defense in a situation of emergency in which he feels otherwise helpless. The aim of his fury is to mobilize his partner, and when this is achieved, he calms down.

    4. Belief in playing fair. He considers obedience to rules to be a strength trait. He does not tolerate slyness and deviousness, hates cheaters and dodgy folks. "Political maneuvers may produce a quick effect, but a truly lasting and tangible results can be reached only through hard work" (Kim Philby). He likes order.
    Anyway, not very interested in discussing sol's type, just wanting to point at this

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    @Taffy
    seems as an example of Fe. Fe valued assured. more for beta with all that rude pathos


    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    A fine EIE specimen indeed.

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    Some Ti since I'm a Ti base:
    when you seem to like obscurity and are aggressive you are Beta
    when you are pushy you are Se valuer
    when you are rude you are not Fi-valuing
    when you disagree with everyone you're Ne PoLR
    when you use concrete language you're sensor
    when you use the word "night" and "dark" a lot in your language you're Ni base, especially if you are depressed
    when you mix unrelated words and make compounds you're Ne valuing
    when you correct someone's grammar or do some nitpicking you're Ti valuing

    Now you can be any type, just be aware and follow the above guidelines.
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    Adding onto Sol being an LSI - There seems to be zero evidence that could suggest the possibility of him being an Ne valuing type.

    If anybody has evidence contrary to this, please come forward now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hux View Post
    @theshadow What's your type? You remind me of someone I know.
    What do you think?

    I am a mystery wrapped in an enigma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theshadow View Post
    What do you think?

    I am a mystery wrapped in an enigma.
    But are you a neckbeard wrapped in cringe?
    If there's an ocean inside the chest, then why is it so empty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by COOM View Post
    I doubt it. If I lose my patience with IEIs I usually burn bridges so hard that I become public enemy #1, which I don't really mind. IEIs are snowflakes. If we cross paths and they won't stop bringing my name then I will make sure that they and their friends don't enjoy staying in my presence, and I will invade their space. Also, my hatred for feelers in general is stronger. I can't stand people who are supposed to be good with feelings but constantly put me in bad mood. If I really lose my head I become the thing I hate. Vindictive and impulsive. But I can't even step outside of it. It remains like a constant feeling of anger and hatred towards the offender. I will never forgive them.

    I don't know if I grew out of it, but it has been years since I have treated someone like that. I don't feel that way towards sbbds either.
    this sounds a lot like @Reyne

    tho I'm not sure about the typing for Reyne atm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    @Taffy
    seems as an example of Fe. Fe valued assured. more for beta with all that rude pathos


    A meme is not a good representation of a person’s type it maybe of their mood at the moment but not so much of their Function orientation
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Te is not about facts as in raw facts but of the observation of what things are going on in a room or area then judging it according to the person’s ethics or thinking @Duschia and @Sol are both LSE

    Sol judges on behavior more a little more

    Also keep in mind that Sol likes and enjoys stirring the pot and getting people upset
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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