> I've seen several photos, and no I don't need a video
Video is much better than photos, mostly. Gives higher chance to understand correctly the type.
is more about "broadcasting" emotions, while is a more "channelized" way of expressing emotions.
leading means having fully awareness and control of the expression own emotions. leading also means adaption in the way how you express emotions to other people, the social group or environment you are in.
It's not always that easy (for other people) to tell -leading (ExE) from -demonstrative (xEE), because both is 4D
The difference is awareness vs. unawareness of the way of expression.
i use emojis greg can you milk me
yeah by beta criterion chae is totally polite and proper
Chae? Rude? What the shitbiscuit, she's the one of the most polite on here. I saw her being provoked by other members in the past and she handled the situation(s) very well. I admire her for that.
I'd just pussy out, probably. Unless it's a really personal attack.
"Time is my horse that stays always my own,
A helmet’s mask-visor – the grate on a hole,
The walls are my armor that’s made of the stone,
My permanent shield is the door’s iron fold.
Time! I desire to speed your hooves’ rattle!
My stony armor is heavy to rise on!
Death, when we’ve come, will help me by the saddle;
I will dismount and rise up my visor."
Whats rude to one is polite to the other we get it bois
She can be your activator. Superego are perceived not so good, in general.
I tend to like talking styles of Aster and Mindi, but not of her or another "delta" Maritsa.
Bertrand as possible Fi seems feels same from her.
> What the shitbiscuit, she's the one of the most polite on here.
Another + to your Ti val type. Though F types _can_ be lesser picky in this.
Ok, then I'm the next one who don't perceive Chae as rude, I see her as funny and entertaining in this forum.
In case you are beta T, the situation gives the argument for her be beta F. While I don't like her in F region, what is the opposite situation - we most probably have different F values.
I don't live on heaven and among very polite people - mostly I communicate with Fe val ones. I talk on forums for many years and saw a lot. My requirements are common. And I find her emotional expressing too often as alien for me, what should be from other F value, not from me being very picky. While you like her in this. So she probably has same F value like you and opposite to mine.
I suppose we may finish this question, as I need to repeat almost the same.
@Sol Don't fucking question what my intentions are when I say things. If I say she's polite it means I think she's polite, not that I like her. Look up the dictionary definition of polite, that's what I mean. You're assuming that I'm biased and calling her things for no reason? Who do you think you are? I don't like politeness, I think it's fake and boring
It's not about being polite, or not. Many types can be polite. Even T types can be polite, when they see the value in setting ground rules for behavior for mutually beneficial interaction (ie being professional.)
With Chae it is more about creating an emotional reaction, rather than attempts to understand the person as an individual - their sentiments, motivations, creating feelings of closeness and acceptance.
Her GIFs are also similar. Lots of quick facial expressions, groups together, applauding.
For such things, focusing on external behavior, fixing things by affecting the emotional energetics (smile, and it will be OK, be thrilled, be aghast, a plethora of such attempts of influence), such things can be perceived as rude for Fi valuing types.
right its like how smiles theoretically evolved from baring teeth which is a sign of aggression. fe is often used to intimidate or at least influence. chae's posts often have that current underriding them, so its pedantically all very benign but veils what others perceive as threatening because it acts as a way to signal the underlying ethical evaluations and there is a kind of action in pushing on that front. its sort of like when the cops are kicking your ass but calling you sir the whole time--polite?--a matter of interpretation
it's like you've never heard about the demonstrative functions...
I mean, even Fi can come off as judgemental, see SEEs or ESIs, or EII (oh no sorry, EIIs don't even talk), they all use (introverted) ethical logic to define their surroundings...
In a Fe type this logic is extroverted, so that the ethical side is directed outside and being it so, the most obvious consequence is the creation of bonds and feel good vibes~, not really a Fi thing, which is instead internal.
Idk if Chae is IEE/EIE/ILI or the super MBTI user, I think she's IEE for how cool and random she can be, EIEs are far more grumpy and opinionated in my experience, but on internet you can only just have a pale idea of how a person really is..
you could in fact say that bared teeth is just a form of Fe and not any different categorically than a smile or other look meant to communicate, the difference is only in the tolerance level of the recipient to the Fe. people with unvalued Fe don't really appreciate being blasted with it, especially not in conjunciton with Se leverage
yes the demonstrative function can produce the same effect. the difference is in conscious awareness. the reason chae seems more EIE than IEE to me (note: im not saying she is EIE I'm saying she comes across more EIE than IEE) is because of her intentional use of such means. implicit in blasting people non stop is the idea that its ok. any IEE who was doing it unintentionally by now would have stopped if they felt it was inappropriate on the level of psychological values. they would have stopped at like age 5. that they don't is an indication of values and not in the Fi sense. if Fi had adopted Fe as a way of life its indistinguishable from being Fe dominant. "Fe as a way of life" is just another way to say "Fe dominant"
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Calm down. I said nothing about your intentions. The discussion was finished with you as you had nothing to add new useful.
Wish you luck with further typing to superego people which you personally like.
Seems the reason why you think yourself as EII still, while being IEI/INFP.
and theres the reverse, typing shaebette as conflictor out of desire to support (clearly not much of a conflict)
but he does not see it because the Ne Fi aspects that relate them are invisible, instead there is a creative Ti contortion to make it possible. k4m does something similar in devising his system
Anyways, just think 1) how much violence your fart causes to delicate ecosystem of yours inside of your colon. 2). When you step you usually step on life. Objectively speaking. Their own microcosms is having huge attack while you do it.
I think any action can be perceived as aggression when energy is used. You might not value it but that does not count. Even the process that generates sentiments is going to need some transaction.
Well, I don't know but possibly you can find examples in nature where baring teeth means also getting dentistry offered by ecosystem. If we assume that carnivores are aggressive and herbivores non-aggressive using their teeth (which doesn't hold truth) we can say that teeth baring is an ambiguous act since humans are omnivores.
Measuring you right now
Winning is for losers
Let's not bicker about who typed who what. What type not what make who what if who bicker.