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    Khabib Nurmagomedov and Tony Ferguson have a fight date for a fourth time (UFC223 April 7).


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    Khabib Nurmagomedov vs Conor McGregor


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    Can't type either. Khabib will beat both easily though.
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    Conor McGregor - LSE.

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    Khabib - maybe SLE

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    Quote Originally Posted by khcs View Post
    Khabib Nurmagomedov and Tony Ferguson have a fight date for a fourth time (UFC223 April 7).
    My typings:

    Khabib Numagomedov: SLI Sp/So. (I'm guessing Te subtype)
    Tony Ferguson: ESE-Si Sx/So.
    Conor McGregor: SEI Sx/So. (I'm guessing Fe subtype)

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    Conor McGregor - LSI (-Se so/sx 6w7)

    Khabib Numagomedov - SLI (agreed on the Te-subtype here, so/sx)

    Tony Ferguson - ESE (9w8 so/sx) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tVaf6YlFzk


    McGregor is showing some typical body language of Ij temperament. Restricted gestures aimed at demonstrating bunches of self-control.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOgao7UNw3E


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    And Khabib's body language is a kind of rolling ball of formlessness.




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    Quote Originally Posted by LeaderLightChange View Post
    Khabib - Alpha introvert, 9w1, so/sx
    Connor - Gamma NT, 6w7, sp/sx or so/sx
    Ferguson - difficult to type, probably e9
    11w3, sx/so/py, e27/t34 is possible.
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    UFC 242 - September 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khcs View Post
    Khabib Nurmagomedov vs Conor McGregor

    both are SLE

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    Ferguson and McGregor are LIE

    Khabib is beta irrational - probably LSI-Ti

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    Dustin Poirier - LSI

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    not trying to be rude, but these SEI, SLI, ILE, LIE typings for fighters really make me shake my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    not trying to be rude, but these SEI, SLI, ILE, LIE typings for fighters really make me shake my head.
    Remember we're typing the person itself, you could try ignoring the fighting component and just type them based on interviews.
    Any type can have exquisite fighting skills, for some it may take longer, for others it may take a different route

    One way in looking at it is that different fighters may have different styles, that could be one indicator. So they're most likely going to differ in variety when it comes to their type.

    Just try watching fighter interviews though to really get a different perspective on who they are, what their thought process is, why they do the things they do, etc.

    I hope that helps

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    I do this all the time. I spend at least 1-2 hours reading about a person, watching interviews etc. before I come to a conclusion. I understand that socionics is a subjective typology, but SEI and SLI seem so absurd for conor and khabib, that it feels like the person making these typings doesn't read any type decriptions at all, or doesn't understand model a. you've typed Ruiz as EII in another thread. why do you think that a type with Se as vulnerable function could be a heavyweight champion? seems so odd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GammavsBeta View Post
    It's definitely possible for Se vulnerable to be heavyweight champion...
    Does having weak make someone incapable of doing physical work?
    I mean I've 1D and I learned using tools... including chopping wood with an axe / hatchet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GammavsBeta View Post
    It could potentially take weak Se longer to master physical work but not in all cases I believe
    I tend to say it seems to be more demanding for me to learn physical skills... e.g. it took me longer to learn handwriting, compared to other kids at school.
    But I derailed this thread.

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    there's a difference between learning to do physical work and becoming world champion in heavyweight boxing. I do weightlifting and have Se as vulnerable function like EII and I can assure you that it's very, very difficult to focus on reality. I can't even imagine a peaceful and internally vulnerable EII punching others to win a prestigious title in boxing (you know, something that Se valuing types care for). one of my friends is an EII with a dominant subtype and even he can't hurt a fly, he mostly does yoga.

    Quote Originally Posted by GammavsBeta View Post
    I understand why it seems odd to you but anything is possible and when it's possible, it's not really so odd.
    I don't like this argument, because it means that we can just ignore functions and model a and everyone can be anything. the absolute majority of professional fighters are ESI, SEE, SLE and LSI.

    I can even show you a video of an ILE fighter, his name is chase hooper.

    https://youtu.be/IigWphaMX64

    in the video, he fights against an ESI and interestingly he wins, but it's clearly visible that he takes a lot of punches because of his weak Se and only wins because of his unorthodox fighting style. many Se types in the comment section mention this

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    The problem with low D is more the lack of quick adaption then using force at all.
    Weightlifting is quite predictable, unlike fighting sports where you have to adjust your body movements interactive, most of the time.

    btw. does lifting large chucks of fire wood on a trailer count as weight lifting?
    (Pieces of 20 to 30 kg each.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    The problem with low D is more the lack of quick adaption then using force at all.
    Weightlifting is quite predictable, unlike fighting sports where you have to adjust your body movements interactive, most of the time.
    you need to focus on reality when you train, something that is very difficult for Ne valuing types

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    UFC 249 on April 18 2020.


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