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    Or as soon as possible (say, 5 years old, when supposedly a personality is set -- depends whether you believe that type is inborn or not). Ideally it should be done with some purely objetive way (like a machine that tells you your type -- which hasn't been invented yet), but barring that, a team of experts (VI practitioners, test administrators, etc) would do the typing. The key is that the type is known with a certitude as close to 100% as possible. Once the type is known, it would be documented in a file, in the same way that your blood type is is documented, and it would be used for various things during the person's life (which could be manyfold, I welcome any input regarding what it could be used for).

    Now, the question is how much the system should arrange a person's life depending on his/her type: should it be purely informative and let the person make their own decisions, or should the stablishment plan the person's life in accordance to their type (career choices, health matters, partner preference...)?

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    this is like some dystopian youth fiction bullshit lol.

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    we'd basically just have to abort everyone.

    this one likely psychopat, this other one likely to slow at work, this other one too weak to play football professionally, better stop procreating at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    we'd basically just have to abort everyone.

    this one likely psychopat, this other one likely to slow at work, this other one too weak to play football professionally, better stop procreating at all
    Kinda seems like you're throwing the baby ou...oh, I get it.

    I think this could be used to determine which mind and strength-enhancing injections they get.

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    Only recommendations should be done. As there are nontypes factors which may to have significant influence.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Some fascist eugenics going on there, I'd rather not Specially because we know it's merely a theory, not fact. On top of that, Reinin states that it'll show as early as 8 years where most things are already going their way.

    And really... VI practitioners...!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    because we know it's merely a theory, not fact
    We know Socionics is most probably true about duality and other parts, as we keep interest to this forum for years.
    It's possibly to get the proof of duality and correlations between average abbilities and types. No one seriously tried this still, as it needs education, efforts, money, time, etc. Not many people can do this good.
    To check abbilities is better by direct occupation tests. While romantic compatibility seems has no much interest for "scientists".

    It will take tens of years when those scientists will try to check Socionics and develop quality and more objective typing methods. This may happen in delta era of 2061-2133 (hypothesis of quadra eras by T. Yakubovskaya was made for Russia).

    > Some fascist eugenics going on there

    Wake up, Neo. You live in the world where people are unequal in material region and having better IQ, health, abbilities, etc helps to get better job, more income and hence chances to survive and to have descendants. Efficiency is what is used to decide about your wage.
    Those nazists did nothing new, except the measure of races segregation, open national discrimination and genocide (just look what was done with indians in USA since 18th century end, and who were slaves(!) up to the middle of 19th(!) century there). USA does similar politics today too, just lesser directly, and many of ex-nazists families are among high classes in USA. ex-Nazists have the influence on USA politics and german nazists themselves were grown by high classes of USA and Europe, especially British.

    > Reinin states that it'll show as early as 8 years where most things are already going their way

    Normal human psyche starts near the moment where we begin to talk (~2 y.o.) and up to age where we remember themselves. There type should be seen already, at least in nonverbal. To use questionnaires is hard until 16 y.o. where human understand himself good, including because of strong external influence on a child's psyche.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    I like the idea of being able to know my type with 100% certainty. If everyone else knew theirs too, it'd be a cool way to enable positive self association. I don't like the idea of central planning or others making my job choices for me, though.

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    https://www.typologycentral.com/foru...interview.html

    There's a link to DarkAngelFireWolf69's interview on that page, but unfortunately it doesn't work.

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    1. Is type innate? If so, at what age does type become set and can be observed? If not, what affects one's typing?

    The type is innate, but its energy and information are filled gradually. You can observe the type from the day the child is born. Somehow, this type you can already observe within the first years of child development, and one chidl will be loud and whiny, another will be calm, third will be careful and fearful, the fourth will be brave and climbs everything and so on, so that means that there's already a type in somebody's person, so you can observe it from very early age. I spend a lot of time and energy to counsel children and their parents, and can confirm that you can distinguish a child's type at the age of 3 or 4, but of course you will also need to ask a questions of the child and parents, and not just by observing the behavior. How to observe the type: type is the stable psychological structure of the person, and it manifests itself via various reactions in our brain. Unfortunately, we don't have such a device to research how our brain works. We don't have some kind of constant attached X-ray to our brains to monitor such spontaneous reactions, so you can instead observe the behavior of the person to detect the type. This is also how you can detect a type: you divide a group into two groups. For example extroverts and introverts and you give them the same task. Distantly you observe the differences of task implementation. Only with this contrast you can see the difference clearly.

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    My opinion:

    Living your childhood by type can easily become restricting because, rather than understanding the complete picture, quite a few fatalistic educators, parents, or secondary caregivers will try to make it into a norm of "X type or function can only mean Y, so Y should be what you do. There's no point in trying anything else because inevitably you'll end up pursuing Y later." Children are malleable. They don't need to hear things like that. Let all the 7 year olds think they're going to be the president, an astronaut, and a TV star at the same time. As it is, you see that form of negativity manifest on typology websites. Adults don't know how to defend themselves. How would kids? The parents/educators could also use it to justify their bad relations with kids. The kids won't have a counter-argument for that. How would they know how to? All children deserve their own journeys, free of unnecessary restrictions, to discover who they are.

    That being said, is there a way for it to be done positively? Sure. If someone can actually pull that off, I'd be all for it. Socionics or a better system, used wisely, would be a wonderful gift. But when is categorization used wisely or correctly on a mass scale? I don't want to end up with a SJW/Red Pill version of socionics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lavos View Post
    should it be purely informative and let the person make their own decisions
    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by lavos View Post
    or should the stablishment plan the person's life in accordance to their type (career choices, health matters, partner preference...)?
    No
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