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    Hi all. As you may know, last year I finally decided that I was a LII-Ti. I'm starting this thread because right now I'm experiencing a particularly emotional/bittersweet/nostalgic moment and I noticed that my subtype is not as strong as it seemed to be 6 months ago. I'm using a lot of at the moment but with no practical purpose (and only in private, it looks like a really strong Demonstrative). I feel at ease thinking about the past, good memories and listening to music associated with those memories. What do you think? LII-H or something like that? Is there any way in which I can help you confirming my type?
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    It's good if your subtype change to contact overtime, it's like finally starting to defy the model and get a better reach at the subconscious, which is found following the creative side of you...

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    By the way, i actually think, it's Si not Ni you're experiencing..

    Here's some info


    http://mbti-notes.tumblr.com/post/13...ary-temptation

    Tertiary Si (INTP / INFP)

    healthy Si:*practical and detail-oriented; able to learn and perform tasks in an orderly manner; realistic about strengths and weaknesses; appreciates routine and regularity in promoting physical health; focused and persistent in improving and following through with ideas/plans; accepts responsibility for consequences of actions; learns incrementally from past mistakes

    resisting Si development:*impractical and careless about details; resistant to routine or consistency; poor relationship to physical health; often dismissive of practical matters and concerns; unfocused, unable to learn well, repeats mistakes, abandons plans midstream; resistant against external structure or limitations

    defensive loop tendencies:*unimaginative, mentally inflexible, unable to see the bright side, unable to visualize positive potential even when wanting to; stubborn and fussy about doing things a particular (known) way; unnecessarily confines oneself to routines or comfort zones and then feels stuck; cannot see that one’s bad state of life is due to excessively narrow judgment; trusts in preexisting knowledge even when it leads to negative results; cannot help but define oneself by past behavior/events even when trying to break free from old patterns; uncompromising about cherished beliefs/values, suspicious of advice, resistant to new ideas, shoots down good ideas; abnormal relationship to physical health; feels misunderstood and isolated from the world; dislikes status quo but resigned to it; only notices details that confirm negative worldview; obsesses about past events or missteps; broods about insignificant details or overindulges fantasy with the unconscious intent to repress the need for growth and improvement*

    Ti-Si loop dynamics:*dwells in past knowledge and experiences in order to obtain intellectual security and/or justification of bad judgments -> but fails to make any progress because of mistakenly assuming that the past has already written the future, resulting in paralysis that stokes inferior Fe fears about being completely inept and/or incapable of feeling strongly about anything ->*

    Fi-Si loop dynamics:*dwells in past feelings and experiences in order to obtain emotional security and/or justification of bad judgments -> but fails to make any progress because of mistakenly assuming that the past has already written the future, resulting in paralysis that stokes inferior Te fears about being completely worthless and inconsequential ->*





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    You're probably in Ti-Si loop

    It's normal brah

    Ti-Si loop dynamics:
    dwells in past knowledge and experiences in order to obtain intellectual security and/or justification of bad judgments -> but fails to make any progress because of mistakenly assuming that the past has already written the future, resulting in paralysis that stokes inferior Fe fears about being completely inept and/or incapable of feeling strongly about anything

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    I quite like H for you. You're noticing a lot of Ni recently, so, it suggests to me that the creative function area - N is getting used more than your base - T, therefore emphasizing the functions of Harmonizing - Si, Ni and Fi, makes more sense than Normalizing, which emphasizes Ti, Fi, Ni.

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    place links to materials like video and questionnaire

    Quote Originally Posted by ooo View Post
    It's good if your subtype change to contact overtime, it's like finally starting to defy the model and get a better reach at the subconscious, which is found following the creative side of you...
    there are no subtypes in the "model"
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    Lynn Finnite King, ha!I think it can be difficult to know when there is a good balance between base, creative, demonstrative, and ignoring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarper View Post
    I quite like H for you. You're noticing a lot of Ni recently, so, it suggests to me that the creative function area - N is getting used more than your base - T, therefore emphasizing the functions of Harmonizing - Si, Ni and Fi, makes more sense than Normalizing, which emphasizes Ti, Fi, Ni.
    Harmonizing doesnt emphasize Si & Ni.
    Harmonizing emphasizes either Si or Ni, at the direct expense of the other.
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    No probs, i'm reading it from here http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...-DCNH-Subtypes taken from DarkAngelFireWolf69s blog.

    He's indicating the three functions of Harmonizing as S (Si) T (Ni) and R (Fi)

    'First of all, again, the primary harmonization is on S. Remember the magic Latin phrase “Mens sana in corpore sano” (a sound mind in a sound body), indicating a progressive relationship between these functions to achieve a harmonious state of mind. Secondly, it is a more natural path of growth from sensory to intuition, rather than vice versa. Thus, in yoga you first pass the lowest step - Hatha, sensory, and then the spiritual-intuitive - Raja.'

    He's using the example of Si progressing to Ni, and it's rational method (socionics rational) being the Fi function, which is more nuanced than Ti for normalizing, which is indifference.

    He refers to,

    The equivalence ([vzaimoobuslavlivanie]) of sensory and intuition (it is written “S ↔ T”)

    As Si and Ni achieved by means of a 'trance' in some cases, which is a bit like @User Name with his memories and his reflectiveness whilst listening to music.

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    There are leaps being made there that i dont agree with, but it's your understanding of it and not their explicit meaning so i dont have a problem with it. I dont see anything regarding Fi though.
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    ^

    'Harmonizing ... And if we use three functions, then STR'

    In Russia, the nomenclature is different from ours for the functions,

    S - Sensing Si
    T - Temporal Ni
    R - Relational Fi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    place links to materials like video and questionnaire
    Should I fill out another questionnaire other than this (post #5)? Could you please comment on it? Also, is it useful to post a video where I'm not answering the questionnaire but just talking about random stuff (with a part in Italian, my mother tongue, which may be more true of me when it comes to facial expression and movements)?
    @idontgiveaf: Thank you, but that's mainly MBTI, which is not exactly what I'm looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by User Name View Post
    Should I fill out another questionnaire other than this (post #5)?
    on your choice. I don't read them, but new info mb useful for others

    > is it useful to post a video where I'm not answering the questionnaire but just talking about random stuff

    Yes. As your nonverbal will be more natural with own language.

    > that's mainly MBTI, which is not exactly what I'm looking for

    *sigh* not the place for the theory. just relax and trust to professionals forum's dudes
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    UserName, you seem Normalizing.
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

    (Jung on Si)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    UserName, you seem Normalizing.
    In your opinion, why?
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    I think User Name uses lots of role to stabilize. That is kind of the essence of normalizing.


    To lean for stability and normal conditions.


    I don't think the guy from TypeTips is EII. I'm thinking ILE.
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