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ILI One, SEE 4?
Any famous or fictional examples of these rarer types? Or else discussion of their probability?
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I've considered Ben Shapiro as a possible ILI One. He's certainly Te valuing. That much isn't in doubt, but he could be another type within the Te quadras or another E-type. I've never seen an example of an SEE 4 that I can remember.
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Ben Shapiro likes crowds an awful lot
hard for me to imagine him not being Fe valuing and not having strong Se
inasmuch as he exhibits an ILI charade I would attribute it to him acting from super ego. if anything his half baked political philosophy seems to be a manifestation of Ne mobilizing, but I agree he acts consistent with enneatype 1 behaviors. I guess you could say inasmuch as type 1s seem to be in their super ego a lot it creates these sort of confusions. I do think an ILI being a kind of publicity whore does kind of go to their rare bouts of "acting like ESE" on occasion. I remember being told once ILI acting like ESE is insane, but here I see such a strong connection it begins to make base type ambiguous. Unless he's playing some 4d chess though its hard to see the intellectual merit or originality to any of his positions. He's sort of an ann coultier type where its like maybe the entire scheme is to make money off of people who want to hear their own ideology restated back to them and others in a public setting, so he simply figures out what a certain market wants and goes to work. sort of like twitch camgirl gamers making money off of lonely logical types by pretending to be into the same stuff they are, but by being super hot. he sort of pretends to share their position and puts an intellectual sheen on it. sort of the equivalent of being a sexy girl into games, hes the smart guy into a dumb politic? the question is whether or not theres a smart guy undernearth it all or hes just a straightforward fascist enthusiast, which goes to more alpha/beta quadral values in my mind rather than a gamma profiteer. of course I guess you could make the argument that gamma profiteering is exactly what the philosophy he espouses stands for, but I don't buy that, to me the country is more (gamma) bill gates than d trump etc
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Oh, listen to how he argues. It's all statistics, facts and evidence rather than reasoning and explanation. He doesn't explain how something does or doesn't make sense to do or think, he's a "let the facts speak for themselves" kind of guy and he's always up-to-date and ready with a slew of those. Te rather than Ti in other words.
He could certainly be an extrovert though.
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Ben Shapiro is an idiot, let him build a spaceship on his "facts"--the bottom line is they're all so skewed and motivated as to be worthless, that's not strong Te at the very least, because its no stone foundation. my point is real strong valued Te uses Te to accomplish actual goals, not just purport itself to long enough to skip out the back window. spacex or microsoft are real Te, this is more like Se. the only way like I said it could be real Te is the actual goal is not to actually make his points or build a coherent philosophy, but rather to bilk the naive
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meme hotline
FKA Twigs is as close as it gets to SEE 4, as ESI-Se. I don't think I know anyone, even with a strong 3-wing it's not possible. The SEEs who have the sexual subtypes of 3 and 2 might try to pull it off so we are fooled.
Ben: LIE 1, in deep need of ESI to morally tackle his grand fact onslaught & giving him a hug. Assange, maybe ILI 1? It is likely, even if LII is the type who's a 1 more often.
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its hard for me to see Asange as anything but a complex of closed mouth kind of guy. Ben is the same way, ergo I think they're more likely to be alpha then gamma. I feel like unless Ben is in it for the money, he is way too much of a loudmouth to be gamma. LIE would just fuck off and do something useful rather than be a goofy mouthpiece, unless there was a really good reason to be doing that. Asange particularly seems to be a Ne ego. they are both ideological banner wavers, not something I really associate with gamma at all. Ben without exaggeration figuratively goes around and holds "public executions", strat talks about exactly that in re alpha
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