Quote Originally Posted by Singu View Post
I don't think that politics is such a mess, as in a democratic system, if you think of it as proposals and criticisms of ideas.

So if a party takes over, then that party is going to get criticized by opposing parties, the media, the people and so on. And if the party's ideas aren't good, then either it gets changed or modified, or someone with a better idea, in this case the opposing party, will take over. And that's really how anything will gradually improve over time.

Anyone should be in favor of criticizing ideas, and anyone should be in favor of coming up with good ideas. But of course if all we do is criticize then nothing gets produced, so it's necessary to come up with alternatives and good ideas yourself.

The tribalist mindset is to be overly loyal to your group and overly defend whatever idea that the group has, and you won't let it accept any criticisms or produce any new ideas.
I think in theory that is the ideal situation, but like I mentioned in my post, it's entirely possible to get stuck into either counter productive extremism or establishment centrism, which can happen with either political party or any candidate that causes more harm than good. Tribalism is a major issue in politics because it results in each side expending more effort in criticizing the opposing side rather than promoting good ideas or preventing bad ones from being implemented.