Working on your fear

[Tigerfadder]

Some fear being abandoned, some fear pain in their inner life, some fear being useless. What happen when we work on our enneagram type fear? Is it possible to overcome that fear and what happens then, we change type? We lose our type?

[ashlesha]

the levels of health go into this. its talked about here:

https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/l...f-development/

[Tigerfadder]

but is it possible to escape your enneagram by "beating" your fear?

[ashlesha]

the enneagram institute said:
"There is therefore the possibility of “not doing” our personality and of gaining some real distance from the negative consequences of getting caught in it."
"When we are less identified with our personality, we find that we respond as needed to whatever life presents, actualizing the positive potentials in all nine types"

i think that answers your question as best as can possibly be. I don't know what else you want.

I guess you could lose your ego completely thru some trippy spiritual practice and become a blissful potato. or you could kill yourself.

[Chae]

Since I integrate 6 aka fear of fear itself it's quite interesting. Let's see.

We become an elevated version of our type that simply goes beyond the fixation. No way we get rid of it, we use it properly instead and know it's a lie. We embrace the holy idea and the types we disintegrate and integrate to, and maybe a wing. Integration is particularly easy since your core type has an in-built repellant against the core fear of the type you integrate towards. Thus, you only take on the healthy qualities. For instance, I don't have 6's constant paranoia but their community skills if I want to. 3 already deceives me into being a goddess so my confidence is too high to feel anxiety!!! No, not quite. (It rather goes like this, I troubleshoot easily since 3 operates under the "just do it" mantra and not 6's hesitation.) But the point is, you won't get rid of any type within your psyche, you can only level up, up, up... for yourself, no comparison. It all usually coincides with using the secondary instinct.

[maniac]

Since I integrate 6 aka fear of fear itself it's quite interesting. Let's see.

We become an elevated version of our type that simply goes beyond the fixation. No way we get rid of it, we use it properly instead and know it's a lie. We embrace the holy idea and the types we disintegrate and integrate to, and maybe a wing. Integration is particularly easy since your core type has an in-built repellant against the core fear of the type you integrate towards. Thus, you only take on the healthy qualities. For instance, I don't have 6's constant paranoia but their community skills if I want to. 3 already deceives me into being a goddess so my confidence is too high to feel anxiety!!! No, not quite. (It rather goes like this, I troubleshoot easily since 3 operates under the "just do it" mantra and not 6's hesitation.) But the point is, you won't get rid of any type within your psyche, you can only level up, up, up... for yourself, no comparison. It all usually coincides with using the secondary instinct.

lol, the integration is when they take on the 'high side' qualities of that type. So like a 3 is always "im the best, everyone look at mee" and when they integrate to 6, they willingly climb down off their pediestal i guess, because 6 is about 'community' like you say, or just about being equal.

[maniac]

Anyway, just being aware of the problem helps a little for me. Like when I go into "poor me" mode I can mentally slap myself in the face sometimes. I still can't get over image problems, like I'm absolutely convinced I could not do certain things just because of how it would look when an alien tries to be normal. I would look stupid and so out of place. And I'm really self conscious, my 6 fix doesn't help with that.
I have a friend who has overcome alot of type problems but it took decades.

Even in theory if you would overcome all of the problems you still have some gifts or whatever, "high side", that comes naturally with the type, so you would still have those. You would not suddenly look like you dont have a personality. Because thats what the types are. Personalities.

[Skepsis]

Fear, fear go away,
Come again another day,
Or Not
Second thought, fuck off fear.

[Tigerfadder]

So it seems it is impossible to get over your fear. Your relation to the fear is your stress level? The 7 when not bored is becoming a 5 but eventually will feel this boredom again.

[powerrainbowcrystal]