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    From the current episode VIII.




    Mark Hamill - ILE
    Daisy Ridley - SEE
    John Boyega - SEE
    Adam Driver - EII
    Carrie Fisher - IEE
    Oscar Isaac - LIE
    Laura Dern - EIE
    Benicio del Toro - IEI
    Domhnall Gleeson - IEE
    Lupita Nyong'o - IEI
    Kelly Marie Tran - IEE
    Andy Serkis - ESE
    Gwendoline Christie - EIE

    Their characters from the movie: typed here.

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    Havent seen it yet.. Reddits impression is that it was pretty lame. To Disney.

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    I wonder if daisy and john supervise the shit out of adam on set even though adam is clearly the star and most beloved by audiences and probably the only property the franchise would actually want to hold onto if push came to shove. that must create an interesting power dynamic. I could see daisy sort of throwing a fit based on that dawning realization, and based on her comments about coming back for more films it feels like she's actually begging to be kept on because she knows Rey is pretty underwhelming. probably because they made her to be an idealogical mary sue which is like a pseudo archetype that ultimately has no staying power or real impact. maybe she thinks she can get a second bite at the apple but I'm guessing they kill her off (the only way to redeem her character is to make her "go evil" and kill the ideological statement and in doing so resurrect the archetypal meaning to the story), which would, all things considered, probably be the best thing for her career if done well. the worst would be to shove her down the throat of audiences for x more movies and taking the franchise down the drain with it

    john seems awesome though, I hope they develop the character in some creative and unexpected way, lots of potential there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    I wonder if daisy and john supervise the shit out of adam on set even though adam is clearly the star and most beloved by audiences and probably the only property the franchise would actually want to hold onto if push came to shove. that must create an interesting power dynamic. I could see daisy sort of throwing a fit based on that dawning realization, and based on her comments about coming back for more films it feels like she's actually begging to be kept on because she knows Rey is pretty underwhelming. probably because they made her to be an idealogical mary sue which is like a pseudo archetype that ultimately has no staying power or real impact. maybe she thinks she can get a second bite at the apple but I'm guessing they kill her off (the only way to redeem her character is to make her "go evil" and kill the ideological statement and in doing so resurrect the archetypal meaning to the story), which would, all things considered, probably be the best thing for her career if done well. the worst would be to shove her down the throat of audiences for x more movies and taking the franchise down the drain with it

    john seems awesome though, I hope they develop the character in some creative and unexpected way, lots of potential there
    He got supervised indeed, that saber training is not meant for PoLR when you look at the Making Of. Adam's only forte is his mega physique, and introversion intimidation as I call it. He scared the living hell out of Colbert (ILE) Supervision is a chain.

    Rey is going into a nice direction, we'll see about that in IX. The director said it'll flip things by 180° so it's gotta be more than killing someone off which is obligatory by now. Impossible to tell by now since they're pulling things like (spoiler) removing Snoke right away.

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    Mark Hamill - IEI
    Carrie Fisher - EII
    Harrison Ford - LSE
    Benicio del Toro - SLI
    Laura Dern - IEI
    Adam Driver - ILI
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Mark Hamill - IEI
    Carrie Fisher - EII
    Harrison Ford - LSE
    Benicio del Toro - SLI
    Laura Dern - IEI
    Adam Driver - ILI
    Ford is not in VIII

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    Daisy Ridley is self-pres first:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Ford is not in VIII
    Yes, but as the title was about "Star Wars" in general, I've allowed me such sin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Mark Hamill - ILE SEI-Fe
    Daisy Ridley - SEE ESE-Fe 8w9
    John Boyega - SEE ILE
    Adam Driver - EII IEI-Fe
    Carrie Fisher - IEE Delta
    Oscar Isaac - LIE SLI-Si
    Laura Dern - EIE Maybe. ENFx
    Benicio del Toro - IEI Beta NF
    Domhnall Gleeson - IEE No idea
    Lupita Nyong'o - IEI No idea. INFx?
    Kelly Marie Tran - IEE Alpha
    Andy Serkis - ESE No idea. Ti base?
    Gwendoline Christie - EIE LSE
    My 2 cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Rey is going into a nice direction, we'll see about that in IX. The director said it'll flip things by 180° so it's gotta be more than killing someone off which is obligatory by now. Impossible to tell by now since they're pulling things like (spoiler) removing Snoke right away.
    yeah, you're right; at first it was set up with Rey being kind of bland but now who knows where they might go, could get very interesting; hopefully they make full use of the opportunity to do something creative!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lavos View Post
    My 2 cents.
    Grazie, love! Working on their subtypes currently, stay tuned.

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    The director Rian Johnson: Alpha SF!

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    ur moms lame. and I even like the first one. also ur moms gay lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by muhtempus View Post
    ur moms lame. and I even like the first one. also ur moms gay lol
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    As promised, the stackings:

    Mark Hamill - 7w6 SO/SP

    Rian Johnson: 2w3 SX/SO
    Daisy Ridley - 6w7 SP/SO
    John Boyega - 1 or 6 SP/SX
    Adam Driver - 5w6 SX/SP
    Carrie Fisher - 7w8 SX/SO
    Oscar Isaac - SP/SO
    Laura Dern - 2w3 SX/SO
    Benicio del Toro - 9 SX/SP
    Domhnall Gleeson - SO/SX
    Lupita Nyong'o - 3w4? SP/SO
    Kelly Marie Tran - 7 or 3w2 SO/SX
    Gwendoline Christie - 478 SX first is always soooo obvious. SX/SO
    Andy Serkis - 2w3 or 9 SX/SO




    Here's some of the material I watched:



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    I don't like the Rey character much but I like Daisy as a person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bulletsanddoves View Post
    I don't like the Rey character much but I like Daisy as a person.
    For me it's the other way around Okay what does that tell us about ITRs, let's figure that out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    For me it's the other way around Okay what does that tell us about ITRs, let's figure that out
    I actually prefer the character over her, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    looks like a real keener.

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    Just watched it.

    IMO it sucked; the length was unjustified- if it was good I’d understand. It was nice seeing the old cast but why make Luke so cowardly and weak?

    And like the first, you could see current cultural themes and political correctness (feminist propaganda) run its poison throughout the film, sucking away the spirit that made Star Wars great in the first place

    Nothing will ever touch the greatness of the original

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    It's been better than the other ones, the third in the last star wars installment was better too. A huge disappointment for me was not doing more with the Jedi's. I get it in the original star wars there were limitations to budgets, special effects, but this time round, it could have been a great opportunity to give them more abilities than moving about a bunch of rocks. If this was in marvel universe, like, avengers heroes, they'd have really weak powers.

    Which, now that they're all owned by the same company, I wanted Iron Man fighting Jedi's etc. But, there'd be no contest, flat out. Even Captain America could beat them.

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    I disagree. In fact, what we saw in The Last Jedi was: The Gay Takeover!! I mean come on, read between the lines. We have:

    - An emo villain who cries all the time and feels self-conscious about his mask. Who uses force-skype topless but shies away from revealing his chiseled 8-pack entirely. Brilliant. Heteros could and would never. Though I think he's bi. Only bis are that troubled.
    - Butch Rey. All the straight guys hate her - how come? Who else would wield a weapon without zero hesitation and reject Kylo Ren's offer to reign with him. And have you heard Daisy Ridley talk?! Femme lesbians are in awe!
    - Phasma: More butch, blatantly so. She wears zero makeup, hint hint
    - Luke Fabwalker brushing off the First Order's bs. He's still single after so many years. Hamill says it's Jedi celibacy but err, no, see Anakin. All that crossing """swords""" with Kylo Ren... This all can't be heterosexual. Classic daddy.
    - Poe Dameron who is a space gay together with bi Finn. Good chemistry in the first "Finn get some clothes" scene already.
    - Holdo who has purple hair and some greek gown! And she's totally into Princess Leia! Becomes Poe's mom. Gays stick together. <3
    - Hux who has the audacity to deliberately wear black in combination with his red hair! #1 fashion sin! Only closet gays are that cocky
    - Rose Tico... um, is hetero. But the actress is into shipping men together. And that kiss with Finn was more than lifeless. So do the math, things aren't clear-cut here either.
    - C-3PO, where do I start. Let's say he only affiliates with males. Yeah, I know, even the droids. PO is from the category: "anxious gay".
    - Snoke: A sadistic bisexual who wears sparkly gold and is surrounded by male BDSM-looking guards with hyperphallic weapons. It's not even subtle anymore
    - Rian Johnson, last but not least. My gaydar is going loco for him. The way he talks, looks, and he does this:



    Flaming Mark is enjoying that a lot lot lot lot as well.


    Anyway, feel free to add to the collection or make corrections. TL;DR: The Last Jedi is a pretty gay movie - that's set in stone, pass it on everybody
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    The problem with Holdo was production design. Okay so you've got an empath who supposedly made it up the ranks to Admiral. And we know she is tough because well, she gave Poe a stern talking to. But her hair and the costume design really failed her as a character and made her look rediculous and clownish. I feel bad for actors when they have to make do with a bad wardrobe and makeup and Holdo had both. She should have had normal hair, maybe long amd parted down the middle and not bad hair salon dye job. She shouldn't have been wearing a green long neck plunge with a scarf because it wasnt very flattering to the actor and you could tell how uncomfortable she was in her own skin because of it b I know how gay this makes me sound. If you are going to introduce us to a new character don't make her look like a complete fool.

    The new star wars was exactly what you would expect from Disney: very polished, very canned, overly creative for creative sakes and NOT subtle, overly produced. Even the strong performances couldn't save it from Riann and the god awful writing. Nothing about any of it was subtle and nuanced. It was like I was standing in a ride cue waiting for my turn to get on the ride while Luke explained "those are the caretakers who take care of the island"... like no shit Sherlock, they are wearing Nun outfits and aprons and complaining about the damage to the rock hut... I thought they were Jedi scientists but thanks for clarifying by explicitly stating, wouldn't want to have figured it out on my own.

    Like I can't understand why you guys can't see what a bad movie this was? Everything was geared towards merchandising for children. (Hint: the new star wars theme park opens at Disney World Florida in 2019. Hopefully we can buy our Rebellian Rings for the kiddies so they TOO can join the Rebellion!)

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    Incoming rant:

    The scriptwriters of this movie don't understand the core of the Star Wars franchise.

    Episodes 1-6 revolved around the "chosen one" who was supposed to restore balance to the Force. With The Return of the Jedi, that issue was meant to be resolved with a huge payoff.

    But the main conflict of episodes 7-8 dredge up the old conflict as if it never had resolution. What was the point of the first 6 episodes, then? Is Rey the true child of prophecy? If so, the writers of this franchise are revising the old story and turning it into a "gotcha" kind of deal, which highlights just how far they are willing to go for a cash grab. Considering how overpowered Rey is in the Force, that may as well be the case. This is what happens when you combine Disney with Star Wars. They blatantly tell all the children that they, too, can be the chosen one of prophecy with ease. In doing so, they undermine the elements of the Hero's Journey that imply that becoming a hero requires hard work and individual fortitude. Therefore, this story arc diminishes the value of heroism.

    Also, why did Yoda destroy the books? It seems pretty out of character, or at least out of tempo with what Luke was intending to do.

    I have some other complaints regarding the script's ability to sell the story. The conflict between Holdo and Poe suffered from a lack of embellishment. We are supposed to believe that Holdo was in the right for limiting Poe's privileges, but she didn't even explain her game plan when they interacted. Consequently, her motivations became unclear, making it difficult to perceive her actions as justified, even after Leia came to. Is the moral of this story supposed to be: "Blindly follow orders, because you never really know when the person giving them has your interests in mind"? They could have deconstructed the whole "brash, risk taking hero who saves the day" trope in a better way.

    What's the deal with the Disney animal casino planet?

    I think they made a mistake by offing Snoke so quickly. By doing so, they've mitigated the amount of payoff the audience will get from episode 9.

    Also, they downplayed heroism by having Rose save Finn before he could make the ultimate sacrifice. By the time she saved her, I had already come to terms with what he intended to do, so her decision really took me out of the moment.


    tl;dr: Disney Star Wars undercuts the value of heroism by outsourcing it to babies. It's almost like the entire production of this movie is a big middle finger to George Lucas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keranos View Post
    tl;dr: Disney Star Wars undercuts the value of heroism by outsourcing it to babies. It's almost like the entire production of this movie is a big middle finger to George Lucas.
    Thank Gawd! And I noticed it, too. Destroying the old - in with the new! I think it's fantastic. IX will go even harder, really looking forward Snoke's story is not finished yet, Rian already indicated it. There is a very, very clear method to all this madness. Just wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Thank Gawd! And I noticed it, too. Destroying the old - in with the new! I think it's fantastic. IX will go even harder, really looking forward Snoke's story is not finished yet, Rian already indicated it. There is a very, very clear method to all this madness. Just wait.
    Lol.

    Now that I think about it, I think some of my above analysis was wrong. Or, at least, I should say that it was lacking in scope.

    I still think it does a disservice to the audience when the Force is practically depicted as an entitlement - whether we're talking about Rey, the little boy at the end, or through Star Killer (the main protagonist of a Star Wars video game). It means that the character lacks any build up for a satisfying power fantasy.

    I guess I have no choice but to reserve my final judgment for after the third installment. Glad someone's really enjoying it, at least. Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peteronfireee View Post

    I can't say I agree with Hamill about what a Jedi would supposedly do. The movies he starred in contradict his statement here. After Palpatine used lethal force against the Jedi, Yoda and Obi-Wan went into exile and resigned from their posts. Furthermore, Anakin himself essentially gave up when he defied the precepts of the Jedi order and joined the dark side. Moreover, you can find several instances of Jedi cutting themselves off from the force, going into exile, or renouncing their religion in the extended universe pre-TFA. The Sith are largely composed of such individuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Thank Gawd! And I noticed it, too. Destroying the old - in with the new! I think it's fantastic. IX will go even harder, really looking forward Snoke's story is not finished yet, Rian already indicated it. There is a very, very clear method to all this madness. Just wait.
    I hope to God his story is finished, he was a ball and chain in the Force Awakens and hopefully this will be the last we see of this saccharine bady bady bady. Disney: look here is a villian and look how villiany he is... God these movies sucked hard. I hope to god Rainn is replaced too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peteronfireee View Post
    Just watched it.

    IMO it sucked; the length was unjustified- if it was good I’d understand. It was nice seeing the old cast but why make Luke so cowardly and weak?
    Haven't watched it and don't plan on it, but you did see the first movie (in order of movies made, not however they were rearranged) where Luke was just a big whiny crybaby throughout the entire film? I don't think he was ever anything but cowardly and weak, so at least that would be consistent.

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    yeah fuck luke its all about k y l o

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    Quote Originally Posted by squark View Post
    Haven't watched it and don't plan on it, but you did see the first movie (in order of movies made, not however they were rearranged) where Luke was just a big whiny crybaby throughout the entire film? I don't think he was ever anything but cowardly and weak, so at least that would be consistent.
    Haha that's true. He actually WAS a whiny crybaby in the first movie because he literally WAS a naïve kid lol....

    But, there were TWO more movies after, Episode 5 and 6 (You saw episode 4), where he grows and matures and trains under yoda and becomes a Jedi master. He then defeats darth vader and the evil emperor. So you saw Luke's growth throughout the 3 films and he was anything but cowardly by the end of it.

    Now fast forward to this current film, The Last Jedi, there's a scene where Rey, just training to become a Jedi, fights Luke a little bit. Rey ends up knocking Luke, the Jedi Master, down. And then you see Luke looking up at Rey with a bewildered expression on his face, like "wtf just happened." lol. And I'm thinking... wut. I thought Luke was the badass Jedi master.

    Lol whatever though. I'm just a really big starwars geek that watched the originals 10000000x while I was a kid, play fighting with light sabers and reciting all the quotes lol so I have a pretty deep understanding of the spirit of Star Wars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peteronfireee View Post
    I'm just a really big starwars geek that watched the originals 10000000x while I was a kid, play fighting with light sabers and reciting all the quotes lol so I have a pretty deep understanding of the spirit of Star Wars.
    Lol, I never cared much about Star Wars, it never grabbed my interest. It didn't put me to sleep as fast as Lord of the Rings though, so there's that. =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    I hope to God his story is finished, he was a ball and chain in the Force Awakens and hopefully this will be the last we see of this saccharine bady bady bady. Disney: look here is a villian and look how villiany he is... God these movies sucked hard. I hope to god Rainn is replaced too.
    J.J. will direct the last one

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    Rey is hot. She can totally sit on my face after getting all hot and sweaty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keranos View Post
    Lol.

    Now that I think about it, I think some of my above analysis was wrong. Or, at least, I should say that it was lacking in scope.

    I still think it does a disservice to the audience when the Force is practically depicted as an entitlement - whether we're talking about Rey, the little boy at the end, or through Star Killer (the main protagonist of a Star Wars video game). It means that the character lacks any build up for a satisfying power fantasy.

    I guess I have no choice but to reserve my final judgment for after the third installment. Glad someone's really enjoying it, at least. Lol.
    Could be!

    I see what y'all hint at, but the force was never about folks didn't you ever listen It doesn't help that the entire concept was inspired by the Tao (Yin, Yang) which mixes with , completely introverted elements.
    Oh yes I do. "Kyle McTantrum" is my type of antagonist to get excited over I have the perfect age for Star Wars I'm guessing, sans conservative attitude as well.

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    I read somewhere that I thought put it nicely when it said something like star wars is bound to become more like the james bond franchise with its ups and downs in quality because the schedule in releasing the films is not really controlled by creative inspiration so much as a regular business interest. in other words, its sort of how like artists will spend 5 years on their first album, but once they sign a record deal for 5 more albums the quality necessary has to give way to the scheduling demands. in any case, its important just to enjoy the ride and not get too hung up over the ideal we've built up in our heads

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    Forgot something. The Porgs are pretty much like the Minions?! Seems like the Alpha comical relief that divides the opinions of the masses. I think they are: Adorable. I still resent Chewie for rejecting them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Could be!

    I see what y'all hint at, but the force was never about folks didn't you ever listen It doesn't help that the entire concept was inspired by the Tao (Yin, Yang) which mixes with , completely introverted elements.
    Oh yes I do. "Kyle McTantrum" is my type of antagonist to get excited over I have the perfect age for Star Wars I'm guessing, sans conservative attitude as well.
    I thought it was based on Kabbalism.

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