
Originally Posted by
sorrows
Yeah, I disagree that they are very passive aggressive. They love humanity, they have high ideals and usually are into world peace issues but get frustrated with people on a one-on-one basis. They tend to complain about people a lot.
When they have conflict with others they want to fix it so they can feel they are nice (may be an Fi ideal). I know of several EIIs who don't like someone for a very valid reason. This bothers them and they keep trying to repair and mend the relationship (not because they like the person-but because they want to be "good" or nice"). As an ESE I just everyone one chance, maybe two. After that its just not worth it. I know of EIIs who have been trying to get into someone's good books for years!
I don't think they would hurt someone for no reason, and I think they value the idea of being nice and really do try. They aren't really manipulative at all, or mean for the sake of it.
I had an EII in my life who did not like me at all. She insisted on sending me a birthday card every year. I know this may sound strange from an ESE but.... why pretend?
I didn't send one back because 1) why pretend? 2) I may be ESE, but I am also an E4 and it is not authentic.
She would get really worried about my health and call occasionally if she heard I was sick etc. Again...why pretend?
They don't like to admit they "don't like someone" whereas an Fe lead will tell if you they hate people openly!
So they place a lot of stock in their individual ethics and for some that may be being nice, forgiving etc.