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    What does Fi seeking look like, as far as behavior, or how it manifests?

    Feel free to give examples from personal life or from people you know.

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    For example, we like kind and compassionate people, which easy to forgive us, which like us and others, which are polite and tactful. Without such near we become not emotional and cruel.
    We value social norms of good behavior. Hate when people are not fair.
    We prefer to behave to people like they behave to us.
    We especially need to follow our wishes to be happy.
    We value a lot when people have sincere sympathy to us. We may do for them more than average if they'll ask.
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    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    For example, we like kind and compassionate people, which easy to forgive us, which like us and others, which are polite and tactful. Without such near we become not emotional and cruel.
    We value social norms of good behavior. Hate when people are not fair.
    We prefer to behave to people like they behave to us.
    We especially need to follow our wishes to be happy.
    We value a lot when people have sincere sympathy to us. We may do for them more than average if they'll ask.
    etc
    Interesting. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

    Are you a Te lead, Sol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retsu77 View Post
    Are you a Te lead, Sol?
    LSE
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Responding well to people who show that they value you and your efforts. Having difficulty understand one's own feelings and emotional needs, and how something makes you (or others) feel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Responding well to people who show that they value you and your efforts. Having difficulty understand one's own feelings and emotional needs, and how something makes you (or others) feel.
    Hmm, interesting. I can relate somewhat to this.

    I usually have to talk out my feelings to know exactly what I'm feeling. I don't generally struggle with understanding how others are feeling though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retsu77 View Post
    Hmm, interesting. I can relate somewhat to this.

    I usually have to talk out my feelings to know exactly what I'm feeling. I don't generally struggle with understanding how others are feeling though.
    That wasn't meant to be a detailed description for typing purposes - I don't think you are Fi suggestive

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    That wasn't meant to be a detailed description for typing purposes - I don't think you are Fi suggestive
    I know you don't. I'm assuming you think Se lead, correct? (Which is fine.)

    But some people do think that. In fact, they insist it, so I wanted to learn a bit more about it. And I can relate to some of it I suppose. It's hit and miss, regarding the descriptions I've read, including the one syrup posted.

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    Fi as Suggestive Function

    The individual longs for close personal relationships where personal and private experiences can be shared easily in an atmosphere of mutual trust, sustained by shared sentiments and ethical beliefs that make external expression of emotions unnecessary. The individual is inclined to take first steps, but he is not confident of his ability to correctly evaluate the existence or status of such a relationship and therefore is attracted to persons who value clear and unambiguous personal relationships with others and who follow a clear set of ethical principles, which gives them credibility and makes them deserving of trust in the individual's eyes.

    The individual tends not to consider whether people are friends or enemies or whether they feel good will or ill will towards them. Instead, he or she usually acts right from the start as if the other person were a friend or an enemy based on their prior knowledge of what the person does. This makes it possible to mistake a friend for an enemy and vice versa. Only gradually does the individual come to recognize what feelings others have for him, and there is always an element of doubt unless others express those feelings verbally and unambiguously and act in a way that clearly matches their stated feelings, over a sufficient period of time. The individual is easily made insecure about the status of personal relationships and needs frequent reassurance that the other person's feelings have not changed.

    The individual is sheepish about expressing his personal feelings about people ("I find you really interesting" or "I like you a lot"), but responds very well to these statements, as if they were unexpected treats. Instead, the person tends to focus on whether others' behavior makes sense or not.

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    Introverted Ethics (Fi, Fi)

    LSEs are chronically uncertain about the nature and standing of their relationships with others. They are often highly out of touch with their internal feelings and are unsure of their abilities at reading the emotional dispositions of those around them. They may take the initiative and engage others, but if they do not observe any emotional reciprocity they may question the appropriateness of their actions and feelings. They require strength of emotional reciprocity, stability, and moral support from others.

    LSEs tend applying towards their ever-proactive approach to life to the sphere of interpersonal relations; however, their direct, blunt style may appear tactless and overly formal to their interlocutors. They may verbalize their emotional uncertainty, often behaving in an overly apologetic fashion, wondering aloud why others do not respond to their attempts to engage them. Although LSEs may be social and have many acquaintances, they are cautious about building closer friendships. Their social activities are often an extension of their productive or leisure activities; they tend to build friendships by doing useful work or projects together, rather than by depth of emotional exchange. LSEs unconsciously expect the other person in working situations to initiate emotional intimacy.

    LSEs seek to ensure that their interactions with others be orderly, friendly, and harmonious. Family and communitarian values often predominate in LSEs, and they may go to great lengths to make sure that the needs of these close friends or loved ones are met.



    Introverted Ethics (Fi, Fi)

    LIEs often have a poor understanding of how others react to them emotionally and typically have some difficulty gaging the state of their relationships with those around them. Their prototypically direct and straightforward lifestyle does not naturally lend itself towards the ambiguity and uncertainty of the complex emotional sphere which influences so many of the people they interact with. They are not naturally in touch with their own internal emotional states, and they may be somewhat fixated and perpetually in doubt of the emotional perceptions and hidden motivations of those around them. They commonly have difficulty making character judgments or assessing what behavior or intentions they should expect from others, and require sustained and unambiguous discussions of feelings in order to feel secure about their relations.

    LIEs typically take seriously their own emotions as well as the emotional responses of others; for this reason, they are often highly principled and may place a great deal of emphasis on their personal integrity. They feel drawn towards associations of deep emotional connection, where personal and private experiences can be shared easily in an atmosphere of mutual trust, sustained by shared sentiments and ethical beliefs that make external expression of emotions unnecessary. They are often proactive in engaging others, but are rarely confident of their ability to correctly evaluate the existence or status of intimacy or closeness; they are best complemented by others who take it upon themselves to establish and unambiguously reinforce the sense of intimacy.

    LIEs may be somewhat shy in establishing close friendships, and may expect others to initiate a sense of emotional connection even in formal or business situations. While LIEs can be reticent to state their emotional perceptions of others, unconsciously protecting them and considering them jejune and poorly formulated, they may take the approach that actions and personal meaning speak louder than words, and may go to great lengths to fulfill others' needs when interacting with individuals with whom they share kinship and respect.

    LIEs may also seek guidance in their actions to ensure that they are following a clear set of ethical principles.

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    ^

    It also comes with two different flavors. Some LIEs are easy to distinguish based on it. Is it really that similar among LSEs? One strikes up new things and other one is swept away by it. Friends and foes.
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    I've been working this summer with a lesbian ESI interior decorator Dual and now she's back at grad school. but I'm completely captured by her, even though I know nothing is going to happen between us. Yeah, I'm fucked, but that's a different thread.

    Anyway, I called her over to my house so she could give me her opinion on some further improvements I'm making. She gave me some valuable advice and as she was leaving, I held out my hand to shake hands and thank her for her help. She shook it and off she went.

    I didn't do the handshake to seal a contract, at least, not exactly. I did it because I wanted to touch her. That's Fi-seeking.

    It's also horniness moving into dangerous territory because I haven't been laid since last November, but, again, that's a different thread.

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    >Fi Seeking

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    The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.

    The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".

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