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    Has anyone known a Beta NF that completely changed your attitude about something?

    Of course, anything can cause someone to have a change of mind. But I'm wondering if Beta NFs have specific qualities that give them leverage in overhauling another person's outlook with quickness and ease.

    This is the only type of person that has this specific kind of effect on me.

    Input would allow me to determine whether this is a type thing, if it's an intertype relations thing, or if it's isolated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kakarot View Post
    Has anyone known a Beta NF that completely changed their attitude about something?
    I know EIE which seemed as physically weak. Then he did bodybuilding and some fighting training.
    I suspect he wanted to be liked by girls more, but I see he feels emotionally better too.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    I know EIE which seemed as physically weak. Then he did bodybuilding and some fighting training.
    I suspect he wanted to be liked by girls more, but I see he feels emotionally better too.
    I meant to say your in the OP. Not their. Sorry for the confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kakarot View Post
    I meant to say your in the OP.
    This changes nothing.
    I saw the proof that rising of superid is good and that physical training is useful. Not completely, but his example have improved my motivation to do some things.

    The other was IEI. Problems of relations with which made me think that "there is something important I don't know" about romantic relations. This leaded me to Socionics.

    In your case it's mostly "intertype relations thing" and partly such was in my case with IEI.
    Also all F-N have the best understanding of people and this may give them the most power to influence on them.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kakarot View Post
    Has anyone known a Beta NF that completely changed your attitude about something?

    Of course, anything can cause someone to have a change of mind. But I'm wondering if Beta NFs have specific qualities that give them leverage in overhauling another person's outlook with quickness and ease.

    This is the only type of person that has this specific kind of effect on me.

    Input would allow me to determine whether this is a type thing, if it's an intertype relations thing, or if it's isolated.
    Definitely a type thing, Fe with Ni is about charisma and conveying a message.

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    Depends on the person receiving the IEI/EIE's message. In my case, any type can change my mind about something, it's . The Beta NFs are only really good at it. Osho is an example I'd like to mention here, , great humanitarian insight. I think it's because is the old soul factor, they synthesize experience and people skills.

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    I have to be cautious because sometimes I note over time my attitudes become your attitudes. And my words become your words.

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    yeah wacey stop brainwashing idiots when you're not even sure what's right to begin with

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    yeah wacey stop brainwashing idiots when you're not even sure what's right to begin with
    Your hair is sexy I want to run my hands through it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wacey View Post
    I have to be cautious because sometimes I note over time my attitudes become your attitudes. And my words become your words.
    You type as EIE?

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    I've never been able to change somebody's attitude about anything. They do that on their own. When somebody is thinking too negatively about something I might try to get them to see the more lighthearted side. If the negativity is self defeating and I actually care about them. That's rare though.

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    i think when they want to, they can be really good at planting a seed in your head that you grow yourself later. being overly direct or insistent is a bad way to change minds but i think beta NFs can go in through the back door better than most (heh, as a manner of speaking)

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    I bet if you ran the numbers, beta is more into anal than average

    I knew a EIE and he was a nice guy but I'd always cringe with how much he'd talk about putting it in the butt as a far ranging multipurpose analogy

    it really had more to do with domination and hierarchy and Fe shock value than anything else

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    I'm into it in theory more than practice. sometimes the mood will strike me though and it does feel pretty amazing. Though this is getting too tmi and I guess I don't want to come off too much like a creep. Plz go back to your completely logical and objective discussions.


    it really had more to do with domination and hierarchy and Fe shock value than anything else


    Well Betas like to exaggerate.

    how a gamma SEE on here smoothed out a Beta/Delta conflict on the forum:

    "Even though I talk about buttsex when you're trying to be sophisticated, I have your best interests at heart and I know that you know this!'

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