Ne ego, yes. He seems infantile to me in the colloquial and socionics way. This describes how I see him 100%Originally Posted by Retsu77
"Victims tend to perceive Childlike types as too goofy and expecting a kind of attention that the Victims find demanding; Victim women are prone to see Childlike men as irritating."
I have been wondering though, if an ESE killed an Ne ego would it be considered infanticide?
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
Your posts sound like that of a semi-coherent old man nearly overtaken by the jaws of senility.
thanks
I type him as EII. It's strange to me that some people here seem to be under the impression that he is ESI. He seems Se PoLR as fuck to me. Their argument is: 'He was in the army'...? What the fuck does that have to do with anything? No EII could ever have slipped through? Great logic some people have. : /Ne ego, yes. He seems infantile to me in the colloquial and socionics way. This describes how I see him 100%
"Victims tend to perceive Childlike types as too goofy and expecting a kind of attention that the Victims find demanding; Victim women are prone to see Childlike men as irritating."
I have been wondering though, if an ESE killed an Ne ego would it be considered infanticide?
Anyway, there is one way to find out if your theory is true. Get an ESE and see what happens. lol
Your efforts look so incompetent. Try studying socionics then try again.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
I assumed senile Delta infantile was what you were going for.
LOL I have an ESE sister but she is too busy, with two careers and her social activities, to bother.
Army has nothing to do with it since in some countries it is compulsory. Not in the US but often parents or guidance counselors push it on those who show no real drive to find a career. I know an IEI whose parents forced it on him. Some will do ok but others have a harder time. My step dad tried to get us all to join since he was career army and was in the Navy. He soon saw it was not for us.
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
the old man is an archetype
The senile old codger who poops himself while thinking he is 10 is so NF Delta.
let's all take a moment and appreciate Dostoevsky's limitless compassion
What are your arguments for his se polr? I dont see any
He's constantly instigating conflict for his own fun, trying to trigger @Aylen and others with ridiculous statements. Thats se creative, not ne creative. Ne creatives (and se polrs) rather not mingle with power dynamics and try to avoid conflict as much as possible, they wouldnt instigate it to get a rise out of people for fun. If you compare @Bertrand to any other Ne ego on this forum you would see the obvious differences.
And the him having been in the army for years IS an argument, se polrs avoidance of conflict cannot be more in contrast with enlisting in the army. It isnt decisive, but an EII would be severely out of place in the army (and would definitely feel out of place), which mostly consists of STs SFs, and NTs.
ONLINE arguments. I've seen many an online SJW keyboard warrior who would never mouth off in person to the extent they do online. Hell, I bet a lot of people are similar. Even I can come across slightly more abrasive online than in person. So him being an instigator does not make him Se ego per se. His attitude towards feminism and SJW topics seem mostly Se PoLR. I rub him the wrong way as well. He uses Ne creatively and comes across as an infantile type too. This all points to Fi + Ne, not Se. I could be wrong, don't mind me, but I don't see much evidence for the contrary.
In general I'd agree, but you cannot type someone simply based off of what they do for work. What type am I? I've held numerous different jobs over the years. What I wanted to do throughout my life has changed a lot: As a kid, I wanted to be a lawyer like Dan Fielding lol. As a teenager, a therapist. Then I wanted to become a preacher... yeah. : / Imagine that. Then a marriage and family counsellor. To that end, I studied both religion and psychology formally, attaining degrees in both fields. Yet I currently work for the government and my ideal job now would likely be either a prof of religious, psychology or perhaps classics or something entrepreneurial with some ideas somewhat related to both fields. None of this fits LSE or SLI yet here we are.
So while I get your point, I am hesitant to type someone as one type over the other due to what they do for work because there are other factors at work in determining why people end up in the fields they do.
By this logic then, we might as well type berty as xSTJ then, perhaps SLE or LSE since they tend to do well in the military.
really, degrees in psychology and religion?
Actually I meant to say, I was in the army and when I come home, I like to clean and bake cookies for my bunkmates.
I just want you to confirm please
ILE with an emphasized role is maybe not so crazy. You make inferences that aren't obvious, like somehow the stuff bert said about cats and Jordan Peterson means that he's a sjw, and you deal with potentialities like they're real, like using things you've wanted to do as a basis for typing instead of things that you've done. I could see Ne, actually.
Totally. I also like video games and am thin and highly intelligent. I also think you guys take this shit a bit too seriously and your Fi irritates me.
its 2d Ne, 4d Ne has a totally different character.. it can actually surprise me, not the sort of thing I lead around by the nose
if they're not obvious its only because they're stupid. 4d Ne makes inferences that actually hold up upon scrutiny or at the very least shake things up in a way that isn't immediately transparent (2d is very linear, "oh you think x? well let me tell you, I'm y!", but with no underlying unity that would evince Ni, its all contradictory, and not in a way that could sustain itself across time, 4d ne)
4d ne superficially looks the same but it can continue forever without backing itself irrevocably into a corner intuitively. the context switching is sophisticated on the level that is equilibrated as it pertains to the underlying picture... 2d ne just constantly ends up looking stupid with no escape hatch
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Right, I'm serious as a motherfucking heart attack
This is like funhouse mirrors to me lol
Me: I could see Ne in you and I like LIE descriptions
Him: jeez you are so SERIOUS and OBSESSED with duality
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Does anyone take you seriously around here? I've yet to see you make one accurate statement regarding this system yet.
conscious 4d Ne is majestic when you actually encounter it. its rarer than I think people realize
So you are saying intuitives are less common than sensation types?
they are less common
I mean Ne dom is 1/8 of the socion even if it were evenly distributed so yeah its kind of uncommon. which its not, by the way, I believe the raw numbers by quadra go something like beta > gamma > alpha > delta
I know, but I was asking him. I wanted to see his response.
If you guys want me to answer some questions in video format, you are free to post them.
Paying attention to people's tastes doesn't have to look quite like that. For example, my parents were visiting and when I got up my dad had already made me a cup of coffee, and asked how it was. He had watched me make mine the day before and tried to make it how I'd like it. He knew exactly how my mom and my sister and everyone else liked their coffee as well. He notices things like that, and in big gatherings likes to be the bartender, so he can both talk to people because he likes talking and he likes finding out how different people like their drinks and making what they'll be happy with. But he doesn't do any of the cleaning and providing comfort etc things listed. Other Si creatives maybe like to run the grill or something which is the same kind of thing and isn't all caregivery homemaker kind of stuff either.
Yep and I don't relate to any of that.
I think I'm likely alpha ILE-Ti tbh. LSE doesn't really fit. The "strong Te" some are seeing could well be 4D Te.
Probably because I don't relate to LIE very much. If I did, we wouldn't be having this discussion, would we? (No.)
Now we could attempt to argue that descriptions don't matter, but really then, what is a type? If it's not defined by its terms, what is it? It becomes so subjective it cannot even be defined. At that point, it's like, why bother even having a type at all? And I like typology too much to want to get to that stage.
why dont you identify with LIE or te/si?
what interests you in religion/psychology?
why do you think you have ne lead/fi polr?
do you know enneagram, if so, what do you identify as?
could you give examples of times you were 'childlike' (Ne ego) in flirting?
could you give examples of your EP temperament?
do you think you have causal deterministic cognitive style? why or why not?
and why do you think your dual must be SEI? have u met them before? did you like them? why?
why do you think youre fe>fi valuing?
why do you think youre si>se valuing?
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Excellent questions BTW. I am definitely going to answer these.
I actually think Delta makes the most sense for me. Alpha second.
i think alpha makes the most sense for u. then beta :ALL HAIL FE:
I'm thinking Delta, then Alpha, then possibly Gamma. In that order.
beta all the way
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