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    Hi!

    This is one man's story how obsessing about theories like Jung's, Briggs and Augustinavičiūtės makes one sick.

    I was firstly introduced to personality theories in my 11th school year and I was instantly interested. Reading much of the material in the net and books I began to develop my own views about people close to me. Somebody was introverted, somebody extroverted and somebody had some denial etc. I believed what I came up with.

    I took a mission to learn to type for the ultimate goal of typing myself and becoming the perfect human due knowing all my defects through model. Once you know all your weaknesses you can just be aware of them and everything is perfect.

    It does not work like that.

    In my 3rd uni year i went for a first time to psychiatric hospital due undefined psychosis. I had typed everyone around me and felt like I had to act like their dual or they would not like me as much as they could.

    I had a outbreak in my dad's house when I was trying to explain the theory to him through chess game. I had this feeling that he knew all my thoughts, so I had to cheat.

    Taking his king with an illegal move I won the game and took control. I knew I was now going to be taken aboard to work for a robotic company.

    I ended up in psychiatric ward. I was lively guy back then and was instantly curing other patients with the all capable theory I had knowledge about. I did this on multiple occasions on my visits to hospital. One guy was INTP and just needed to boost his extroverted feeling function and all would have gotten better. I should act like my brother who was ESFP in order to dualize the INTP. Somebody was ISFP and she was for that reason in need of developing his TE, which she later did through posting her thoughts to fb. She had to let her anima go.

    With the 2nd visit to ward I came up with an idea that everything in universe is made in such a way, that if you just keep acting like your true type then you will life the perfect life. So you need to avoid using functions that are not in your main stack: I as an INFJ need to avoid using si, which I had defined controlling my body knowingly or 'posing' or being in an attention physically. So I was avoiding this certain 'using of si function' and instead used my hero function NI.

    Somewhere after the third visit I came up with ideas, that I should not use FE function offensively, because it was my defensive function. I could not say hello to somebody, if it was not done in a defensive manner. I was very sure that I had figured life out and just following through the model I would become the perfect INFJ and life would go perfectly. It was ok to not know wtf I was doing since extroverted thinking was my 7th function anyway and I needed just follow intuition, which would bring me to answers without me ever consciously trying.

    All was connected through me as I saw large net of human relations just like INFJ should and I knew everything was because of my ability to imagine what INFJs could imagine.

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    Bad troll. Move to next forum please.
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    translated this 10 different times... now I think the role of a "psychotic patient" is slightly more prominent in this text.



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    You would have found a way to be crazy without it.
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    Lol actually, you just have to be yourself. Actually psychological stuffs already bores me too. It's like i already became a super mbti user.. So is super socionics user is the next goal? Meh. I don't wanna be compatible with all types. Choosing to be celibate reminds of just forget about the theories of psychology and just be me.

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    I have to agree, personality types aren't to blame here, some kind of mental/spiritual issue is.

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    True lol. I also blame mentally ill people. Because it's not really socionics.. It's already mental illness. I swear.. On other forums, there's just mentally ill people. You'll know it. It's not just they're on the inferior grip or whatsoever.. But they really need help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jung View Post
    becoming the perfect human due knowing all my defects through model
    To become perfect you need to remove your defects following from having the type, - to reduce your type. The best way for this is deep love relations with your dual.

    > I had this feeling that he knew all my thoughts, so I had to cheat.

    one of psychotic symptomes, often linked to schizophrenic disorders

    > I should act like my brother who was ESFP in order to dualize the INTP.

    You can't behave even close to what dual do. As your nonverbal will stay same, at least - while this is a half of IR influence.

    > Somebody was ISFP and she was for that reason in need of developing his TE

    to develop weak functions is bettter to use superid ones. as superego supress your psyche

    > if you just keep acting like your true type then you will life the perfect life

    type is like disorder. perfect life needs all 8 functions on good level, as they all are equally important for the life

    > So you need to avoid using functions that are not in your main stack

    They'll go deeper to unconscious and there will boil in wild state, disturbing the work of your conscious Self. Also your efficiency in life will drop, as you'll lesser take into account some regions.
    I remember like needed to use Ni methods to organise my study in the univercity - such I've become "lucky" and to study became easer and lesser nervous. Ni is my polr, - I tried to overcome it but it costed me too much, so _without pleasure_ I needed to integrate somehow it to my consciousness. Even with this additional losses the sum result was better. The main I've did - I stoped to doubt in that I'll do all good, everything will be all like I want it. I saw the final aim, felt it and calmly without doubts moved to it. Such my Ni was freed to support me, - I've began to feel the time flow and kind of swim in it where I needed without tensions. I began to feel when to begin to do something and did not worry I'll do all ok. Sometimes the reality should to melt to my "idiocy" - I got "easy" tasks on exams, got "free" hard end-of-term tests, found the decisions of tasks just in a moment, got indulgent relations of teachers, etc. The side effect was - I've become more assured (what girls liked), but also supressed emotions and have become lesser tuned to the psyche of people near - that made me lesser pleasant in communication with them. I got what I needed from them anyway, but I saw they liked me as a person lesser. Being LSE I kind of switched to ILI mode there.
    Those who think they may keep away from using weak functions - will loose in sum efficiency. This may be hard and not pleasant sometimes, - but you need them anyway in consciousness, including nonvalued ones.

    P.S. Our "Jung" got problems not from types. Types were just the form his psyche issues were placed into.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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