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    Cool Socionics For Dummies

    This thread is a dumpster of all kinds of tongue-in-cheek guidelines about Socionics, in the stereotypical style of Olimpia/Medusa/Cassandra/Sisofnight.

    I will most likely also include Enneagram related "nuggets of wisdom".

    Enjoy.

    P.S.: Don't take everything I'll say here too seriously... if you can.
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    Only listen to Gulenko when he's not using a model. His models are bs. The rest is fine.
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    If you have to someone irrational friendly feelings and personal trust - he can be your dual. O not to be because of non-types factors. Yea, life can be difficult.

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    Women cannot penetrate people with their vaginas
    they do this with own "logic"
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    Romance styles are real, but so are natural dynamics... Women cannot penetrate people with their vaginas, so... Take sex differences into account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    Romance styles are real, but so are natural dynamics... Women cannot penetrate people with their vaginas, so... Take sex differences into account.
    But what if they are using a strap on? Or they might be a futanari.

    These exceptions disprove the rule.

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    If you are proud of being an intuitive, your self esteem is either incredibly fragile and Low and that's the only way you feel good about yourself, or most likely you are just a try hard sensor.
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    If you don't suck at physical appearance stuff in some way, you are not an intuitive. However, the reverse doesn't apply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    If you don't suck at physical appearance stuff in some way, you are not an intuitive. However, the reverse doesn't apply.
    This is most likely associated with Fe, not any Intuitive function

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    Just because you get what you self type as as your test result, doesn't mean it's true.

    Most tests only give clues about how you (ideally) see yourself or what IEs you may value or what functional strengths you may have. But it's rare that a test gives you signs of all three. It's usually one of the three.
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    Descriptions of information elements > general descriptions of types.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    Descriptions of information elements > general descriptions of types.
    Agree with this. It's definitely the approach I'd recommend. The descriptions are only meant imo to flesh out ways that the elements can show up, to use as examples. People can get imo too caught up in behavioral aspects and neglect to look at the actual thought processes. Focusing primarily on the IEs can help bring cognition itself back into focus.

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    Socionics is about how to do not spend your love on those who do not deserve it.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    You are IEI when you think that types are not important as you may dream yourself as a dual or a unicorn.

    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    LSEs are not as subtle about it, and lack emotional manipulation knowhow.
    Do not underestimate types to use weak functions T types may study ethical skills like F types may study the math and technics.
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    The ones in opposite quadra may to be people too.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Socionics is not a game. It should not be fun. Be prepared for a pain and a humilation.
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    If something does not fit to your opinion about someone's type then just ignore that. No one cares about your opinion, anyway.
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    Type your Ego functions. That's it.
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    No, not all ESIs are stuck up traditional house wives type 6 style. You can safely ignore those descriptions. Unless you're looking for a Russian ESI 6 wife. Then by all means, indulge in them.
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    When a guy is aggressively pursuing you, it's safe to say he's not a Victim type. Unless he's LIE 8. Like Christian Grey. Yay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    When a guy is aggressively pursuing you, it's safe to say he's not a Victim type. Unless he's LIE 8. Like Christian Grey. Yay.
    What? Isn't Christian Grey into bondage? And isn't bondage mostly Delta?

    I will admit, I can't think of a single instance of which I'm personally aware where a Victim type actively chased an Aggressor*. Except me, and I actually am an LIE e8. But I'm not into bondage.

    FWIW, if a woman actively chases me, as opposed to simply saying Yes (mostly) to my suggestions for closer relations, I tend to panic. That might be traceable to my being smothered for many years by my LSE mother. As the twig is bent, so grows the tree.

    Hence, I want to do the chasing. Absolutely at first. But I also want the chasing to be accepted and reciprocated.

    *I was going out with an IEI female who was the first one to hint that maybe we should consider each other in our future relationship plans, but that's pretty far from being an Aggressor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    What? Isn't Christian Grey into bondage? And isn't bondage mostly Delta?
    First of, Christian Grey is a female fantasy. That already skews things.

    Having said that, he's indeed LIE-Te in my estimation. He clearly values Se. His Se HA is off the charts. And he's very much a pseudo aggressor gone wild. He's as Aggressor as an LIE could ever be. Which is likely unrealistic.

    Yeah it's mostly true that a lot of bondage enthusiasts are Delta, but not exclusively so...
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    If you see the most attractive, bright and enigmatic woman - it's... your conflictor.

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    And isn't bondage mostly Delta?
    no. all stuff was taken by Beta, already

    > FWIW, if a woman actively chases me, as opposed to simply saying Yes (mostly) to my suggestions for closer relations, I tend to panic

    Se types treat like "victims" anyone. it's better to relax and get pleasure

    > Hence, I want to do the chasing. Absolutely at first. But I also want the chasing to be accepted and reciprocated.

    LIE show how competent, smart and friendly they are. then be prepared for her jump

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    No one is perfect. Not even your Dual.

    you just... you just mistyped them!
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    Type 9s easily can come across as having weak Se and/or stronger Fe without necessarily being so.

    On a similar token, types with weakened Se often seem core 9 without necessarily being so.
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    "The love of your life" is not automatically your Dual.

    On the same token, people who you find the most attractive are not automatically your Dual. (See Imago.)

    Don't base your self typing on who you find attractive. It will most likely result in a mistyping.

    Again. Type your Ego functions.
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    All females on this forum are ESI, unless there's evidence for the contrary.

    Note: Evidence doesn't exist for Te PoLR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    If you don't suck at physical appearance stuff in some way, you are not an intuitive. However, the reverse doesn't apply.
    Definitely disagree with this one, many IEIs I know are extremely stylish, pretty and neat in the way they are put together. Also met quite a few IEEs, EIIs and EIEs who are extremely good looking/ have an amazing sense of fashion. And I have met sensors that don't look very good/ sometimes even lack in hygiene.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaviTilki View Post
    Definitely disagree with this one, many IEIs I know are extremely stylish
    IEI are more coquettish so some unmarried may pay more attention to the look than EII. But IEI I know mostly use common style. EII have lesser wish to attract men attention, they just want to look decent.

    > an amazing sense of fashion

    IEI have no "amazing sense of fashion"

    the example of "amazing" IEI taste
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    IEI are more coquettish so some unmarried may pay more attention to the look than EII. But IEI I know mostly use common style. EII have lesser wish to attract men attention, they just want to look decent.

    > an amazing sense of fashion

    IEI have no "amazing sense of fashion"

    the example of "amazing" IEI taste
    NFs also tend to like aesthetics/fashion/art stuff and indulge in it.. not only SFs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaviTilki View Post
    quite a few Delta NFs with a quirky/modern/trendy sense of fashion
    There is sense of good taste. While all those "fashion" is just marketing bs to sell more clothes. If someone systematically take clothes to fit "fashion" = has no own taste.
    Having Si as role function, it's expected more girls try to fit to some "fashion", as having wish to fit while having no own good understanding about appropriate. It's not taste, it's the lack of it.
    Also types which you think are doubtful there.
    I've shown the example of own IEI taste above - they all are such, just don't show them journals where they can copy the looks. They may take clothes like clowns by their "amazing taste". Looks cute, feminine, but also funny and childish - such are weak functions.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaviTilki View Post
    If the people are also recognised by several hundreds/thousands other people as attractive/good looking and they seek them out for fashion/beauty advice..
    I'd look who are those "hundreds/thousands" to take seriously their opinion. They should to have wide knowledge to compare with the existing and own good aesthetic taste, - then we may say about objectivity. If those are brainless teenager fans in a marketing subculture - they are bad for objectivity.
    Also we need to know the source for opinion of the experts near which the fan-club is, as if they get external help - they express not their own opinion in significant degree.
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    If you are a "pussy", chances are you are either type 9 (core or at least wing) and/or IxFx.
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    No, extroverted 5s don't exist.
    No, introverted 7s don't exist.

    If you self type as ILE 5, you are likely LII-Ne 5.
    If you self type as Ixxx 7, something's wrong with you. You are probably a try hard 9 or 5. Stop it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    No, extroverted 5s don't exist.
    No, introverted 7s don't exist.

    If you self type as ILE 5, you are likely LII-Ne 5.
    If you self type as Ixxx 7, something's wrong with you. You are probably a try hard 9 or 5. Stop it.
    LSI-Se 7 exists. You're wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    LSI-Se 7 exists. You're wrong.
    You mean 6w7 LSI-Se ?
    Yeah, they can often come across as 7 core.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    You mean 6w7 LSI-Se ?
    Yeah, they can often come across as 7 core.
    No, I mean 7w6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    No, I mean 7w6
    Probably a mistyped SLE then.
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    When someone is a fairly intelligent and creative female ESI-Fi type 4, there's a 100% chance they'll self type as IEI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    When someone is a fairly intelligent and creative female ESI-Fi type 4, there's a 100% chance they'll self type as IEI.
    If somebody reads up on Jung’s definition of the Introverted Intuitive type and doesn’t understand it, or relate to it, they are not an IxI

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    Filatova's facial profiles should never be the foundation of V.I. or serious typing.

    Whenever someone pulls up those pics, saying "look, I look like this type" as a justification of their self typing, I'm internally facepalming myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    Filatova's facial profiles should never be the foundation of V.I. or serious typing.

    Whenever someone pulls up those pics, saying "look, I look like this type" as a justification of their self typing, I'm internally facepalming myself.
    It's been the most accurate for me irl and almost alwas hit the spot. It's not about the physiogonomy but the facial expressions. Works perfectly for me.

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    There's a huge misconception regarding Temperament and Conscientiousness.

    No, not all j types are high in conscientiousness, and not all p types are low in it.

    Or in other words, just because you're lazy and disorganized doesn't mean you are p.

    There are lazy js (mostly Ij) and industrious ps (mostly Gamma) in the world.
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