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    Hello!

    I started to answer a few questions, but I realized answering the questions takes a long time. I decided to split the Q&A in parts.

    Testes a ILE.
    http://www.sociotype.com/tests/result/est/58304

    But I can't see myself as Fi-PoLR, Se-PoLR fits me better, imo.

    First part now:

    What is beauty? What is love?

    Beauty is a mixture of aesthetic common ground and personal preference of shapes, shades and colours.

    Love is something or somebody you can relate to and you care for. A mystrial attraction with a desire to connect yourself to.


    What are your most important values?

    For a thinking type I value peace and harmony rather much. I don't really like conflict between people, even I'm not involved in.
    On the other hand I'm aware that a world without conflict is an not achievable goal.
    I value fair play, I don't want to take advantage of other people.


    Do you have any sort of spiritual/religious beliefs, and why do you hold (or don't) those beliefs in the first place?

    I was raised as a Catholic by my parents, but know I consider myself as agnostic.
    I value most of the rules of the Ten Commandments, but not for a dogmatic reason, for pragmatic reasons.
    "You shall not kill" is the only Commandment I wholly agree with, with a no way out self defensive situation as only exception, the other ones
    although I see more as situational flexible, non black and white, rules.


    Opinion on war and militaries? What is power to you?

    War is childish to my opinion. It's like infants quarreling about the bigger piece of cake – though at a larger scale.
    It like a demonstration: Look! I'm stronger and I'll claim the bigger piece of cake for myself and there is nothing you can do about it!
    And war is the place finding out who is stronger.
    Thats the war about ressources, but there are also dogmatic wars out there, but basicly most wars are about property.

    Power is imposing and enforcing your own will onto other people, I'd call this active power,
    but you can also impose power on other people by manipulating their own desires, taking advantage of their weak spots or frustrations.


    What have you had long conversations about? What are your interests? Why?

    I can do long conversations about astronomy, electrical engineering, computer science, science fiction series and movies, a variety of music,
    maybe socionics and philosophy.

    I was always interested in science since early childhood and the newest technical gadgets.


    Interested in health/medicine as a conversation topic? Are you focused on your body?

    No, not really. I recognize when parts of my body hurt or when I'm start getting sick. Does that count?

    What do you think of daily chores?
    I try to minimize my daily chores. I'm pretty tolerant to clutter and disarrangement of stuff.

    ...not motivated anymore... Continue this questionaire an other day.
    English is not my native language and I'm rather tired at the moment.
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    Thanks for the hint, Sol.
    Are video selfies made with a smartphone ok? Because I don't have access to a proper video camera at the moment.
    ...and I have to wear glasses. Without them I barely can see anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    Are video selfies made with a smartphone ok?
    Generally - yes. 480p and 30 fps they should give

    > Because I don't have access to a proper video camera at the moment.

    photocameras are better than smartphones for this. video camera is not needed today

    > ...and I have to wear glasses. Without them I barely can see anything.

    glasses do not suit. they cover and distort the view of nonverbal near eyes
    to tell about something you don't need glasses. tell about anything you like for 10 min

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    @WinnieW

    Since the topic of your type came up...

    "I recognize when parts of my body hurt or when I'm start getting sick. Does that count?"

    It does count. Supposedly Ns don't even notice too fast when they start getting sick...

    High Si answer also: "Beauty is a mixture of aesthetic common ground and personal preference of shapes, shades and colours."

    "I value most of the rules of the Ten Commandments, but not for a dogmatic reason, for pragmatic reasons.
    "You shall not kill" is the only Commandment I wholly agree with, with a no way out self defensive situation as only exception, the other ones
    although I see more as situational flexible, non black and white, rules."


    Te creative-ish answer with being so flexible with things, they tend to call Ti leads dogmatic lol

    For sure Se devaluing overall.

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    Oh... do I have to deal with a reply motivated by revenge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    Oh... do I have to deal with a reply motivated by revenge?
    What revenge?

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    Ok, my bad... then you are simply busy with digging out and reanimating old threads right now... Thank you for doing this.

    Further signs for my weak . I usually don't notice or feel when I'm hungry or thirsty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    Ok, my bad... then you are simply busy with digging out and reanimating old threads right now... Thank you for doing this.
    No worries.

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    Have you considered ILI?

    Perhaps, just perhaps. It is like you have some sort of conscious control over your . Regarding logic and intuition: You spot stuff like x3-x2+1.


    How would you describe your inner imagination? Is it rotatable static image with multiple axis or something that truly lives on?

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    Man just do another questionaire or a video at least.
    If i see this "what is beauty" question one more time im gonna kill someone brutally

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Man just do another questionaire or a video at least.
    If i see this "what is beauty" question one more time im gonna kill someone brutally
    Choke me daddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penny Dreadful View Post
    Choke me daddy.
    easy there tiger

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    The funny thing is that I didn't even pick that question about beauty when I answered the QA.
    “I want the following word: splendor, splendor is fruit in all its succulence, fruit without sadness. I want vast distances. My savage intuition of myself.”
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    Lame questions, who reads?

    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW
    What are your most important values?


    For a thinking type I value peace and harmony rather much. I don't really like conflict between people, even I'm not involved in.
    Strange to have a typing thread but already typed oneself.

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    Posting a test result is just another example of Te for you, not LII, and of course you gave your own analysis of the usefulness of the data which is just Te again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Man just do another questionaire or a video at least.
    If i see this "what is beauty" question one more time im gonna kill someone brutally
    100%

    (That's one of the main reasons why I never took that questionnaire, ha.)

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    Oh! A lot of activity happend in this thread. The owner of this domain should call his or her server hoster asap.
    There is an impending threat of running out of storage space.


    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Man just do another questionaire or a video at least.
    If i see this "what is beauty" question one more time im gonna kill someone brutally
    Oh! That's interesting. You find slaughtered human bodies aestetic, if this is your answer to the question.
    Seriously, there is an obvious solution for you: Don't read any questionaire in this forum anymore.


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    Choke me daddy.
    Kinky alert! Invitation for S&M play in this thread detected.
    Where does that motivation come from? ...Fifty Shades Of Grey... perhaps?


    Quote Originally Posted by at sirac son of sirac View Post
    Posting a test result is just another example of Te for you, not LII, and of course you gave your own analysis of the usefulness of the data which is just Te again.
    You concluded that I have -ego because I did a test for myself and posted a test result? Do you think that habit is type related?
    There are people of different types who posted test result of themselves.

    Besides. Why do you think I aborted the Questionary? Because it drained me to answer so much questions. I stopped because I got exhausted. I usually need a lot of breaks doing stuff like this.
    I started the Questionary because I was motivated but got exhausted pretty quickly.
    ...and I probably won't survive at my work place not using at all. Where are the jobs you don't need any ?
    I try to reduce the use of to the lowest level in my spare time.
    Does this sound very -ego?

    btw. @Chae thinks I'm ILE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    Have you considered ILI?
    I have considered all intuitive types for me at first.

    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    How would you describe your inner imagination? Is it rotatable static image with multiple axis...
    Like watching a globe from all sides?

    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    ...or something that truly lives on?
    My creativity is complex. It isn't very abstract.
    I can do fictional film like situations in my mind, but the plot is usually not very consistant. It's more like random movie scenes, more like a rhapsody of scenes. The scenes don't contain unrealistic objects. People and animals don't morph or transform (their bodies).

    I also have spontanous, non-visuell type of ideas.

    I was typed by an other person (in MBTI) as xNTP, a few years ago. He wasn't sure about I or E, either.
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    Yeah, sounds like static type at least. LII is a possibility
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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    easy there tiger
    Se DS responding to the other Se DS lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    My creativity is complex. It isn't very abstract.
    I can do fictional film like situations in my mind, but the plot is usually not very consistant. It's more like random movie scenes, more like a rhapsody of scenes. The scenes don't contain unrealistic objects. People and animals don't morph or transform (their bodies)
    This is Si lead

    SLIs on first superficial look can get confused for LIIs and yes even ILEs online by many people for some reason lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    Se DS responding to the other Se DS lol
    Whoa there slow down m8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myst View Post
    SLIs on first superficial look can get confused for LIIs and yes even ILEs online by many people for some reason lol.
    How do you know in which ways strong concious (3D, 4D) manifests, my dear -PoLR friend?
    does not always manifest in visuell experiences.

    My family doctor is SLI, I'm pretty sure of. I'm very different from him.
    My personal motto is: A day without a novel insight is a lost day.
    I develop electronic circuits based on my own ideas. Can I be more nerdy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    How do you know in which ways strong concious (3D, 4D) manifests, my dear -PoLR friend?
    does not always manifest in visuell experiences.

    My family doctor is SLI, I'm pretty sure of. I'm very different from him.
    My personal motto is: A day without a novel insight is a lost day.
    I develop electronic circuits based on my own ideas. Can I be more nerdy?
    I didn't equate Ne with visual experiences. I've known ILEs and LIIs enough to know what Ne of Alpha NTs looks like.

    SLIs can be pretty nerdy and innovative yeah, see this description about the innovative stuff etc: http://www.wikisocion.net/en/index.p...e=SLI_subtypes

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    I was waiting for someone to mention SLI. In the other thread with your photo you have SLI like stare. Looks like Te to me.
    It's easy to confuse LII and SLI from the looks but to me it really looks like SLI.

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    Hello!
    There is a simple explanation. This is my regular german passport facial expression. It is mandatory that the expression is neutral, any other expression incl. smiling is not allowed. I'm serious, this is not a joke.
    & I'm not very skilled at making SeLfIes. Honestly this was the first selfie shot I ever made with my smartphone. I stared at the screen to spot that damn shutter button.

    I tend to hide my teeth while smiling because my teeth are not in a proper shape.

    Here are 3 pictures that show me, taken by somebody else:
    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/47951-Unofficial-Members-Picture-Thread?p=1255640&viewfull=1#post1255640

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    This looks very much like SLI or ILI. You don't look like any ILI I know but you are very similar to SLIs I know. Definitely some kind of Te ego type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falsehope View Post
    This looks very much like SLI or ILI. You don't look like any ILI I know but you are very similar to SLIs I know. Definitely some kind of Te ego type.
    He's ILI.

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    Honestly, ILI is by far a better pick of type for me... better than SLI. -leading... lmao.
    is one of my weakest functions.
    And I don't know where you guys spotted -PoLR...
    Ok, guys, I see you need a video from me... Another validation that photo typing is bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    And I don't know where you guys spotted -PoLR...
    That would be hard although you might have said something along those lines. Some comments bout emotionalism, perhaps.

    But electronics... That is quite cool. I think I'd never been able to be creative there (functionally speaking). I have completed couple of electronics courses in physics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    That would be hard although you might have said something along those lines. Some comments bout emotionalism, perhaps.
    I have to admit that I don't show much left on my own, even at formal presentations I don't show much emotional expressions, but I do show strong while interacting with other persons (and animals).
    If you somebody want me to be emotional expressive, then I have to interact with an other living being.

    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    But electronics... That is quite cool. I think I'd never been able to be creative there (functionally speaking). I have completed couple of electronics courses in physics.
    I guess it was one of my first interests. I learned the basics of electronics at the age of about 10. Self-taught by reading books and doing first experiments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by at sirac son of sirac View Post
    He's ILI.
    But he's typing himself as Alpha, wouldn't be it strange that he typed himself as member of conflicting quadra?

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    Quote Originally Posted by falsehope View Post
    But he's typing himself as Alpha, wouldn't be it strange that he typed himself as member of conflicting quadra?
    He already typed himself as Alpha before making this thread, and he's made it so that he can confirm that he's alpha, because in a previous thread I pointed out ILI Fe PoLR, Te, suspect Ne and strong Ni for him, and VI'd him as ILI. It's not about conflicting quadra, he just likes the sound of Alpha NT/has a poor understanding of functions.

    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW
    -leading... lmao.
    is one of my weakest functions.
    And I don't know where you guys spotted -PoLR...
    Ok, guys, I see you need a video from me... Another validation that photo typing is bullshit.
    ^ look at his post, you VI'd him as SLI/ILI, so therefore his response is to denegrate VI (because he looks like an ILI).

    He doesn't want to be typed, unless it's to be told he's Alpha NT.

    Anway the whole procedure is rather ILI, the critic likes to argue in order to learn.

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    Yeah he has something of gamma NT as well, more than Alpha NT.

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    @Crystal

    What do you think? SLI/ILI/Finger nail?


    I have seen creative users such as ILI's being very good at circuits. It is actually marked difference how we solve problems. I had ILI pair in electronics class. I made systems of equations which were hard to solve while ILI couldn't bother about actual math and made bunch estimations and solved problems in the spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falsehope View Post
    Yeah he has something of gamma NT as well, more than Alpha NT.
    Ironically, if you were to provide him with some 'here's Fe PoLR' or some other helpful advice (like you're doing) - an example, you gave him a type opinion, took a look at his photos, gave him a VI, and his response is to dismiss your answer by being 'grumpy' and then denigrating VI (which you've attempted for him.)

    That's the ironic part when he says he cannot see (or how can we see) the Fe PoLR, even types with F role know better than to be grumpy (poor unvalued Fe control which he dispays) as a response when someone's trying to help them. It's common with his overall posting, unvalued and weak Fe (similar responses and actions elsewhere.)

    ie - he's showing us Fe PoLR in the very example in the above paragraph.

    But, such is the weird nature of Ni when with ILI (they can't see the woods for the trees, always doubting), hence the critic

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    Quote Originally Posted by falsehope View Post
    But he's typing himself as Alpha...
    It's not a baseless selftyping. I even doubt that the result of selftyping is that meaningful.
    Why I claim to be a member of the alpha quadra?
    It is because I had
    ILE as result in about 10 different Socionics tests
    + either INTP or ENTP as result in about 15 different MBTI tests
    + & as ego functions in 2 or 3 different cognitive function tests
    + was typed as xNTP by somebody who is skilled in typing

    I don't mind being ILI at all, but there are a lot of test results that backup my claim to be an alpha NT type.

    I scored a lot of test results without having much clue about cognitive functions, MBTI or Socionics theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    I have to admit that I don't show much left on my own, even at formal presentations I don't show much emotional expressions, but I do show strong while interacting with other persons (and animals).
    That is more like a variant of I think. Showing emotions to people (or animals) you are close to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    It's not a baseless selftyping. I even doubt that the result of selftyping is that meaningful.
    Why I claim to be a member of the alpha quadra?
    It is because I had
    ILE as result in about 10 different Socionics tests
    + either INTP or ENTP as result in about 15 different MBTI tests
    + & as ego functions in 2 or 3 different cognitive function tests
    + was typed as xNTP by somebody who is skilled in typing

    I don't mind being ILI at all, but there are a lot of test results that backup my claim to be an alpha NT type.

    I scored a lot of test results without having much clue about cognitive functions, MBTI or Socionics theory.
    Your results are indicating ILE no more than ILI, but, an ambiguous I/E dichotomy.

    Notice what you're doing though - you are using information - test results to formulate your decision, which is a very Te approach. If you were Alpha NT i'd expect you discuss the structure of the information (Ti) rather than the function of the information (Te).

    I mentioned this to you before I think, that your logic is a approach.

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