Last edited by Tommy; 02-18-2018 at 07:51 PM.
How do you think in which other way I could dertermine a meaningful test result? The approach would be building my own test, but there would be a problem comparing my result to the results of other people.
It does make some sense that all people answer the same questions and compare the results.
If you want comparebilty of the results the method is needed.
Even people having as PoLR function do such tests.
No point in getting others involved imo if you're wanting to use them as examples of LII/ILE, because who says they're typed right? For other opinions yes, but finally you've got to add it up for yourself.
Edit: I'm going to say 'typing tournament' sounds rather valuing, I've been waiting for that to appear
I think you're all analyzing small sections of data and losing track of the big picture.
For what concerns how you're all reasoning, @falsehope would be a sensor, since he's mainly come to his conclusions comparing people to others he already knew without ever referring to theory.
This said, I don't want to cause unrest nor doubt anybody's type. @WinnieW should provide larger pieces of information. Just my two cents.
Last edited by croww; 02-18-2018 at 09:07 PM.
WinnieW who reasons using pretty much data alone.
It was all too good to be true. I think I'll sit this one out now.
Just looking at the pictures I'd guess INTj...you got that teacher look lol (glasses and semi-formal attire = LII; where my logicz prize at?)
Wild guess aside...I'm not sure what type you could be, but using your answers as guide I'd also say you're Se devaluing, so either alpha or delta then.
In your pictures you look friendly and approachable but a bit guarded/cautiously distant, or perhaps simply not skilled in charming the audience (the Fe shenanigans...the Fe bawsheit ...sorry...I just remembered how my behind got whooped by an EIE at work...anyway! Let's continue with your typing)
I could see you lighting up by an enthusiastic's ESE/EIE motivation for you to join the group; you seem like a shy person who's waiting for a friendly invitation. That doesn't necessarily make you an introvert though; you could still be ENTp even if you're shy...but I do think you're Fe valuing, so alpha NT.
Please upload a video if you have time and feel comfortable doing it!
I'm not very good at Visual Identification (which I don't consider reliable), but I think you're LII > ILI or at least Alpha > Gamma. I just can't get any Fe PoLR vibe, neither from the pictures nor from your posts. I highly recommend you to fill in another questionnaire (you can also make a video) where you provide insightful answers. I will analyze it and give my final typing. So far there's too little information to elaborate any kind of conclusion.
KEEP IT LIGHT AND KEEP IT MOVING
Hello NdFeB08! (Are you a magnetic person? Because of your member name. Ok, I'm kidding.)
Indeed I was shy to the degree of having social anxiety. But grown out of it, mostly, I think.
I'm under the impression that an accelerated growth of my weaker functions happend in the last few years. So I'm getter better with and active use of , but I'm still not very mature in some aspects.
Yes, I like other people that are skilled in using , therefore I guess that is my dual-seeking function.
Your observation is correct , I'm the way you described me. An other proof of the capability of 4D
If VI would be reliable why I should I ask somebody else to type me?
Then I'd make a Selfie, compare my own picture with the list of sample pictures of different types and chose the best match. That would be my type.
I guess that I'm frustratedd to some degree, and going through a mild midlife crisis.
Sorry for my bad temper and harsh behaviour.
A sensor type collect all available facts, makes lists of them, weight them pro and contra. Does this for the type descriptions and for the person to type, choosing the type with the best match.
It is based on an accumulatio of details.
An intuitive type (also) collect available facts, but does what I'd describe as "holistic modeling", both with the descriptions and the information of a person.
The weighting of the facts is done in an interconnected way, each fact dosen't get weighted separately.
And compares the different models against each other, choosing the best match.
@croww. What do you want to know? How can I know what facts are relevant to get typed correctly by other people?
I can't tell the whole story of my life in this forum.
Which means, I can't be a Sensing type, because this is my typing method.
Yeah, I can work with details and detailed information, but I'm really bad using details in communication. Most of the details are get incorporated in the big picture and I have to extract them out of it, if I have to do this.
Stereotypical for SLI, tho' this on its own doesn't make you that type necessarilyI guess it was one of my first interests. I learned the basics of electronics at the age of about 10. Self-taught by reading books and doing first experiments.
You don't often seem lighthearted or cheerful on here. I can't comment on whether IRL (if you do it there since you don't here) you do the Fe or the Ne version of it.
PS: I wasn't teasing. I think I can't add anything else though, you decide what you want to do with the type opinions.
tbh. I can be rather reclusive, but also outgoing, and having fun talking with people. I guess it has more to do with open-mindedness. Usually I don't waste my time talking with people that are prejudiced and closed-minded.
I like to quote one of my favourite saying of the famous Albert Einstein:
"The (mind) horizon of many people is a circle with zero radius,
which they call their point of view."
Is there a better way to express the dislike of closed-mindness in words?
I guess a realized why I tend to clash with most LSE, because I can't stand Te ego in combination with Se demonstrative, and LSE probably can't stand my Ni demonstrative.
Se demonstrative against my Se PoLR.
I get along with ESE because Fe ego + Se demonstrative is not that bad for me.
I get along with most LIE because they have Ne demonstrative & their more skillful use of Ni + Se, which even can feel comfortable to me.
All in all. A get better along with healthy gamma NT than LSE.
Last edited by WinnieW; 02-26-2018 at 11:26 AM.
Okay.Maybe it's because english is not my mother language, my choice of words are not always that good.
Just going by what I've seen, sure.Maybe you are not reading all my posts in this forum.
I don't really usually do teasing tbh... it's not a problem with you personally from my part or anything like that.Ok.
Seems ILE is most probable with LII possible as well.
ESE, especially older ones, are not walking around being overtly emotionally expressive like : OMGGG howowowoooWWW ARRRREeee you!!!!!!!
4d means TOTALLY nuanced and professional as fuck. Put Fe in that slot to get the picture.
Thanks for telling me.
I did this for a few years as profession. I started with building my first own PC.
Well, "loosing big picture" is what Panoramic-holographic types call zooming in/zoning out. I have heard it even from SLE's.
To me seeing "picture" does not mean looking at picture (it has abstract meaning). It just means to look at different causalities where the pic in front of you means very little. In fact I didn't get the "seeing whole picture" phrase because I assumed that it meant complete internal web of the generated possibilities by the mind while completely discarding actual context.
I'd say that they loose track of causalities. It is bit too present or context oriented form of the mental presence. On top of that carries very little meaning because I don't see value when it comes to shifting myself forward.
Measuring you right now
Winning is for losers
I'm kind of bored of the idea that some people seem to go by, which is about Fe base not having to be all that emotional often. To me that defeats the point. It just doesn't work in practice. I find sticking with the socionics basics on this works better.
Emotional vs expressive. I doubt they are true emotions all the time.
How much resemblance you think that you have with this guy?
I think he is quite clear ILI.
Measuring you right now
Winning is for losers
Can't really compare my own behaviour to the guy in the video.
Maybe a video in a comfortable interview setting might reveal more about myself.