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    Default Extroverted intuition Ne for ESFj vs. ISFp

    In theory Ne in an ESE-Fe should have a strength of 2.5D.
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    I always perceive ESE as having clearly stronger than myself.

    But the pattern is the same over all types. Compare the of LII and ILE. The LIIs have clearly stronger
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    I would say mobilizing Ne is superior to suggestive Ne by strength of dimensionality alone. On the other hand, suggestive Ne is more receptive to Ne due to seeking it and valuing it more.
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    You can trick yourself into thinking your HA is stronger than it is and that you don't need anything here, but you're helpless with the dual-seeking ime and quite aware that it's not a strength. For example many IEIs will show off their "Ti", but you rarely see the same thing from ExEs. Likewise, XLEs will show off their "Fe" much more than LXIs will.

    HA is both stronger and something you're more likely to attempt to do yourself. (Not that you won't ever attempt your dual-seeking, because you will, it's just not to the same extent that HA is)

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    ESE: -, SEI: +
    LSE: + SLI: -

    Suggestive: SLI's are extremely intrigued if I tell different way to think and solve things. SEI's like to hear about new ways of possible implementations and this might take pressure off from .

    Mobilizing or launching. This is very different. ESE wants to experience novelty whereas LSE's might want to hear some innovative ideas to improve their life quality.
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    The mobilizing is always "stronger" than the suggestive. We have more energy to do it and we are way more confident about doing on it on our own, even though we aren't capable of doing it consistently.

    For Ne this means that ESEs are much more likely to seek out new stimuli, opportunities, and information of their own accord, while SEIs will only do so begrudgingly or at the behest of others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sorrows View Post
    In theory Ne in an ESE-Fe should have a strength of 2.5D. Ne in an SEI would be 1D
    in theory both functions are just weak and it's hard to say about their significant difference in this for practice
    "dimensions" is just another bs like Reinin's

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    @sorrows, for these two types, Ne information is a limited subset having a dual nature being both relative and absolute so it's not nearly the same Ne data set that one would find with an IEE or EII. Input leads SEI processing so I think that Ne would tend to be more influential to this type on average although both access the information in exactly the same fashion.........
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