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    Hi. So Ive been thinking of being a Ni ego type because Ive been typed as such on my type me thread (based on limited information though) and it seems very relatable but Ive been having doabts. Everytime i think about me being an Ni ego type, i have this weird feeling or vibe that i might not be, i think it could be my subconscious telling me that I'm really not an Ni ego type (which will be referred to as NET) but it also might be this other thing, a lack of confidence being a NET. In MBTI communities who deal with cognitive functions, Ni is looked at as a god function that only the greatest of people get because it's so rare( i dont know if it's also considered rare in socionics too) and that makes me really insecure about considering myself as a NET because I'm not special at all but anyway...i would like some explanations of what Ni is and how each NET type would use Ni and how Ni can be identified by oneself in behavior and behaviors etc (if you guys can) and maybe some differences between Ni and other cognitive functions like Ne, Si and Ti.
    Ive seen descriptions of Ni having a focus on time, some descriptions(which i can't recall exactly, just vague memories) in my opinion take it a bit to far, they focus on the aspects of time that seem S like or Te like. Focusing on punctuality and how long certain activities will take but this doesn't seem N like at all anyway i think we should get rid of that concept altogether as Ni should be more about symbolism, interpretation and development (of ideas, which would be the only points where Ni would focus on time because development can only happen over time) i doabt that much ethical NETs would enjoy reading a quantum physics (or whatever) book about time and stuff but i could still be clinging to MBTI definitions. Anyway, wouldn't my seemingly random speech style be Ne like or just irrational (in terms of socionics)? Are my constant doabts caused by Ni( which Ive read causes many doabts for NET types in socionics only, just wanted to add but in MBTI it's considered the anti doabt function, once it's made up it's mind then thats it) or Ne(seeing potential and possibilites)? So...yeah... thanks for participation(if there is any). Sorry for being an Idiot.

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    Not Godlike and not revered here except, maybe, by those still heavily influenced by MBTI. Not rare because everyone has Ni available to them. The position matters of course and that is what determines strength but even among those with base Ni the strength is going to vary. Here is a more recent thread where people give their take on Ni. Opinions vary.

    http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...the-heck-is-Ni

    Here are brief summaries of Ni in different positions.
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    Introverted intuition is an introverted, irrational, and dynamic information element. It is also called Ni, T, temporal intuition, or white intuition. Ni is generally associated with the ability to recognize the unfolding of processes over time (how one event leads to another), have visions of the past and future, develop mental imagery, and see intangible hints of relationships between processes or objects. Types that value Ni always like to have in mind a specific plan for how their life will develop in the future. Thus they have little time for the concept of "living for the moment" or "making the best of the present". They generally engage in pure leisure activities only for short periods of time, and even then their leisure activities generally involve a psychologically demanding or competitive aspect.

    Ni as Leading Function

    As a base function, Ni generally manifests itself through a lack of direct attention to the world around oneself, and a sense of detachment or freedom from worldly affairs. This can lead to a highly developed imagination and very unique mental world, but it can also result in a great deal of laziness and apparent inactivity. Because the individual gets his or her primary information about the world through imagination, a person with leading Ni may be able to thrive in situations where data are scarce, or where he or she lacks the usual prerequisite experience. However, this may also become a disadvantage if the person ignores real data about the world too much. The ability to transcend the axis of time and understand the cause and effect relationships that occur is also a feature, sometimes resulting in the ability to accurately predict general future trends and outcomes of certain events.

    Ni as Creative Function

    The individual likes to predict the further development of the situations and topics that he is interested in. The individual applies his highly developed sense of vision not as an end in itself, but as a way of promoting the development of his more central interests and activities.

    Ni as Role Function

    The individual is able to turn his attention to longer-term implications and personal imagination but only for brief periods; his natural preference is to concentrate on the immediate surroundings and sensations, or on the job at hand. If poorly developed, this function can lead him to extensively plan his future while failing to evaluate his reasons for doing so.

    Ni as Vulnerable Function

    The individual prefers to focus on immediate tasks, taking things as they come, rather than try to evaluate the outcome of present trends. Inclination to tell stories or narrate events on a sequential basis, rather than outlining how one event led to another. He perceives time in an undifferentiated manner: the past, present, and future are all perceived as being in or near the present. When talking about the future, especially one's longer-term plan), the individual treats it as if it were accessible today and often is not aware of all the developments that must happen first. He generally has a poor sense of how long things will take and what the best amount of time to spend on things is. Therefore it is difficult for him to stay on schedule without extensive, even total, pre-planning.

    Ni as Suggestive Function

    The individual is attracted to people who are confident in their ability to evaluate where present trends are leading and to choose the opportune moment to initiate action, or to refrain from it. The individual is impulsive but at the same time desiring of not going too far in his impulsiveness and unsure of his own ability in this area, so people who are confident on how far to go and when to stop are admired and their company is desired. The individual also longs for a sense of greater meaning in his life beyond the immediately physical and enjoys the company of people who can show him the light in that area.

    Ni as Mobilizing Function

    The individual periodically needs an outside evaluation of how a situation is likely to develop in order to keep from worrying excessively. Without an outside reassurance that a task can be accomplished in time without hurry, or that there is no need to deal with an ongoing development and that for the moment it's best to wait and see, the individual is anxious and inclined to try to deal with such issues immediately and sometimes impulsively.

    Ni as Ignoring Function

    The individual thoroughly understands discussions and arguments focused on following present trends into the future and their possible implications, as well as on exploring one specific imaginative vision of personal meaning, but he much prefers to explore many possibilities, starting from a present point in time and reality, rather than to concentrate on just a few specific visions or trends.

    Ni as Demonstrative Function

    The individual is quite adept at following discussions on the developments of present trends into the future and at contributing to them on occasion if he feels so inclined, but he does not take that as seriously compared to investigating possibilities in the areas he is interested in at present. He usually dismisses supernatural claims as being silly, wishful thinking, unless they happen to be related to the very specific religion he feels inclined to believe in and which he may be inclined to make part of his leisure activities.
    I think listening to self is very important. That is your intuition. I mean if you can tune out outside opinions and your own doubts you may get a clear answer to your question. Doubt is a human thing but if it is an affliction it might not be socionics type related. You could look into enneagram for more insight. If it is keeping you from living life then it is an issue you need to deal with and that is beyond socionics and possibly enneagram. I think a good start, in building some self confidence, is to stop referring to yourself as an idiot. No wonder people type you Ni. j/k. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asd View Post
    Well Ni traverses the axis of time while Ne more “spatial” in that it covers the breadth of viewpoints, looking at the same thing from several angles. Or maybe I’m specifically describing 3D creative Ne. But anyways yeah, just observe people who are Ni egos or Ne egos etc. the difference should start becoming pretty obvious.
    I think it's more helpful to think of Ni as narrative in nature rather than exclusively temporal (that is, a temporal narrative -- an understanding of yourself, for instance, in time -- is only one type of narrative). Most Ni egos I've known seem to particularly like stories, and they often like to make points or convey ideas by telling stories. @Adam Strange on this forum is an obvious example.

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    Ni is a subjective, perceiving function that seeks to understand what will (most likely) happen.

    Some possible manifestations:
    --Abstract, esoteric ramblings
    --User inattentive/disengaged to immediate surroundings; may look unimpressed/soft gaze
    --Lazy
    --Focus on past, future, imagination/mental imagery
    --Likes having a plan

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    "Focusing on punctuality and how long certain activities will take but this doesn't seem N like at all anyway i think we should get rid of that concept altogether as Ni should be more about symbolism, interpretation and development"

    Absolutely, yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by peteronfireee View Post
    Ni is a subjective, perceiving function that seeks to understand what will (most likely) happen.

    Some possible manifestations:
    --Abstract, esoteric ramblings
    --User inattentive/disengaged to immediate surroundings; may look unimpressed/soft gaze
    --Lazy
    --Focus on past, future, imagination/mental imagery
    --Likes having a plan
    Agree with most of this for Ni leading types (not creative) although the laziness/inattentiveness is from low Se specifically.

    Also about having plan - this seems more typical of Ni valuing rationals.

    Ni ego in general has to do with having a strong grasp of consequences of actions, a sense of prudence, and a tendency to criticize others and be negative (Ni mobilizing for this last part too).

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    Ni-types seem to frequently present ambiguous or conflicting statements so one can wonder from where they're coming or to where they're heading; some have been known to regularly play the devil's advocate and communication is treated like a game that they enjoy. They tend to take defensive stances and never give away their positions until they're sure of a win. They can be somewhat image conscious but some of the images that they guard can seem rather odd to others. Many seem to have a what's-in-it-for-me attitude or approach.

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