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    I've never see this method of typing, looks interesting though, here are my results.

    1. SLI (I found the style of video and demeanour engaging)
    2. ESE
    3. ILE
    4. SEE
    5. ILI
    6. LII
    7. SLE
    8. LSE
    9. LSI
    10.SEI
    11.EIE
    12.IEI (would have scored quite a bit higher, but there was a sense of detachment/distance in the videos)
    13.LIE
    14.IEE
    15.EII
    16.ESI
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    @JonMoon

    It needs to place ESI. The list above has 2 IEE.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    @Naktis
    was typed to ESI by video

    ILI
    LIE
    ILE
    LII

    EIE
    EII
    ESE
    IEE

    LSI
    SEE
    ESI
    IEI

    SLI
    LSE
    SEI
    SLE

    link
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Thanks for the heads up, should be edited now

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    @JonMoon

    Fe valued type
    more alpha, but not ESE

    most possible types: ILE, SEI, LII
    among them SEI has higher chance
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Thanks for the response I'll look into those types.

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    EII
    IEI
    IEE
    SEI
    ESI
    ILI
    EIE
    LIE
    ILE
    SEE
    ESE
    LII
    LSI
    SLI
    LSE
    SLE

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    @mfckrz
    prefer NF and avoid TS. also you more prefer I
    may point on EST* type
    in case you sorted like was recommended.
    note: I saw sortings by clubs with NF at top before - those people had NF types

    @Anglas
    Ni/Se valued
    would be better to write types instead of numbers. then could be said more
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    @mfckrz
    @Anglas
    Ni/Se valued
    would be better to write types instead of numbers. then could be said more
    I think you have changed the keys. If you didnt than its:

    ILI
    EII
    ILE
    EIE
    LSI
    IEE
    LIE
    SLE
    ESI
    LII
    SEI
    SEE
    IEI
    SLI
    ESE
    LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglas View Post
    I think you have changed the keys
    There would no problem in case I'd change the key in short time after you've posted the sorting as numbers. In the current situation - you've posted above numbers and now their meanings - so you've opened the key.
    You may replace the numbers with types' names in the 1st message or to delete that message. Until that my comments about the sorting leads to opening the key.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    There would no problem in case I'd change the key in short time after you've posted the sorting as numbers. In the current situation - you've posted above numbers and now their meanings - so you've opened the key.
    You may replace the numbers with types' names in the 1st message or to delete that message. Until that my comments about the sorting leads to opening the key.
    .

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    @Anglas

    You dislike Si types - the only ego function which have most at 4 bottom types + only Se at top half. This points on your Se valued type.
    A chance of your E type is some higher - as 2 top are I and 2 bottom are E.
    You prefered N types - all top 4, 3/4 bottom. What rises S type possibility. But why S type would dislike the most Si types? It's the only function what have 3/4 at bottom. While at top Ne and Ni are presented equally. So the neutral about your S/N.
    If type is S then among them more possible is SLE. as LSI and SEE have superego at top, and more chance for E is against ESI.
    If you have N type what that can to be? It's among beta-gamma: EIE, IEI, ILI, LIE. If I did not know you better - I'd just noticed that your preferences fit better to LIE, IEI and taking about more chance for E, that gamma is top 1 and 2nd is LIE's semidual - LIE would be said as most possible N type. But there is also the interesting situation: the 1st S type you liked is LSI, 2nd is SLE and the least type you like is LSE - dual, activator and superego of EIE. And this add-on with S types you prefer compensates LIE vs EIE possibility closer to equal.

    SLE, LIE, EIE - the types you should think the most about by IR test
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    I liked the analysis @Sol , thank you for your time.
    This typing method has potential (it obviously has flaws), there a ways to make this like an excel program, where a person could just rate an invidual on a scale (1-10 or whatever) 1.0 value for base and 0.5 for creative, negative values for super ego functions and so on. Like for example:
    if a person rates someone who is a SEE type and gives him like 6
    6**1 = 6
    6**0.5 =3
    you get the idea (keep in my i'm putting random numbers here)

    I think you need more people to take this test to get more data for it to be accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglas View Post
    This typing method has potential (it obviously has flaws), there a ways to make this like an excel program, where a person could just rate an invidual on a scale (1-10 or whatever)
    In the future I may try for formalize IR preferences analysis. At least, partly.
    With better materials than bloggers and mb better sorting method there will be more usefulness from formalizations. At least, a dual should be in most cases placed to top 4 types. At now a human mb needed much to overcome noises.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Cool test, and strong correlation for a first impression...

    SEE
    LIE
    ILI EIE LSI LII IEI SLE
    SEI ESI IEE
    ILE LSE ESE
    SLI
    EII

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    @DELL
    you should sort all 16 types. there should not be types said as equal for you
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    @DELL
    you should sort all 16 types. there should not be types said as equal for you
    Will try to be more thorough some time down the line, when it's not so fresh in the mind....

    These are rough comments below though, from what I remember....

    At least there is consensus for SE>SI preference/attraction

    SEE strong attraction
    LIE nice, very comfortable
    ILI EIE LSI LII IEI SLE cool, comfortable
    SEI ESI IEE seemed ok
    ILE LSE ESE hmmmm
    SLI meh
    EII Medusa

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    Quote Originally Posted by DELL View Post
    At least there is consensus for SE>SI preference/attraction
    seems like
    mb there could be goten more if to sort all. also when you sort all types - you think about your impressions more and deeper so may place types differently, - closer to expected by the theory

    your approach is not by rules so higher chance for P type. your comment with time mention is closer to N types
    as we see 2 first types are gamma and 1st in 2nd raw is gamma too (as probably had more of your sympathy) - ILI has more chance than IEI
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    ILI has more chance than IEI
    Yeah that's what I thought.... definitely would be ILI>IEI based on what I have read of the two types though...

    I had strongly considered ILI (along with LII) before this test anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by DELL View Post
    I had strongly considered ILI (along with LII) before this test anyway
    You may record a video so I'd look what types are possible by VI impressions.

    Also try to understand peoples' types IRL and to check how IR effects fit to concrete types. It's obligate step to be highly sure in own type. During this step you'll get initial typing skills and will check them too. This takes a time to notice that people IRL fit good to the theory with the supposed types. You may use VI impressions to intuitively guess their types, to analyse their behavior, to offer them tests.
    Would be nice if you have ILI indeed. You've placed SEE at the top - so pretty situation.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    @Sol

    1. LSE
    2. LIE
    3. LII
    4. SEI
    5. ESE
    6. ESI
    7. ILE
    8. IEI
    9. SLI
    10. SEE
    11. LSI
    12. IEE
    13. EII
    14. SLE
    15. ILI
    16. EIE


    First three tied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COOL AND MANLY View Post
    First three tied.
    you need to sort all
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    I did. Tied is past tense.

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    @COOL AND MANLY
    you prefer T types, so more for your F type

    ESE, EIE, ESI have superego at top 4
    IEI has suborderie and subrevisie too high
    SEE has suborderie at 1 top
    EII has subrevisie at top 4
    IEE has suborderie at top

    SEI fits better (conflictors are not bad at a distance). also it has superego and subrevisie at bottom. mb it's your type
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    @COOL AND MANLY
    you prefer T types, so more for your F type

    ESE, EIE, ESI have superego at top 4
    IEI has suborderie and subrevisie too high
    SEE has suborderie at 1 top
    EII has subrevisie at top 4
    IEE has suborderie at top

    SEI fits better (conflictors are not bad at a distance). also it has superego and subrevisie at bottom. mb it's your type
    Very interesting.

    You said in the first post that I shouldn't focus on romantic interests, just people who I feel comfortable around, so that is what I picked. Is this the correct way to do it?

    Maybe that confused you a little. I don't think I'm an F type. I very rarely talk to people. I don't seek human interaction. I'm very focused on work and my interests. I don't celebrate birthdays (mine), I don't attend parties or weddings unless pressured or I think it would look really bad and would cause drama where there is none, and I would only do it for very few people. The rest can think whatever they want. I really don't care. I'm an extreme loner. I have very few friends and the ones I have I don't even try to keep in touch with. Basically, if we have no current hobby or interest that we share and I don't have to invest a lot of time to get their attention then I have no reason to speak with them.

    If we are in the same room, I will talk to them, if not, I'm not going to call or plan anything. I'm the asshole who people call every 4 months to check that they are still alive. I can entertain myself. I don't care to keep in touch if I think you are going to be fine without me, like if I'm not worried about their safety or something. I do make time for people when they reach out and I will do whatever I can to help if they need it, but it's not going to be constant. I'm very independent and can't stand leeches. But I also care about people's well being. If they are young, I will be there for them, but once they reach a certain age I treat all adults the same and they are responsible for themselves, emotionally and financially. I make exceptions for the people who actually follow my advice (which is not easy, I make very detailed instructions) and are just unable to do better. But I'm very busy doing things that interest me like reading and increasing my knowledge, investing, etc. and I'm very protective of my free time.

    Thank you for taking the time to do this, I always wanted to understand your reasoning, this kind of makes sense. I tried to do it alone and wasn't sure how you would arrive at a type using your method.

    You don't have defend your typing. I have what I want. Thank you again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COOL AND MANLY View Post
    You said in the first post that I shouldn't focus on romantic interests, just people who I feel comfortable around, so that is what I picked. Is this the correct way to do it?
    people which inspire friendly sympathy. by the recommendations

    > I don't think I'm an F type

    T types are more personally attracted ("soul" attraction) and more find as pleasant F people, which give them higher irrational friendly sympathy. T for T are some boring as persons. More clear this is for people of other sex. Own sex is significantly associated with a cooperation and a competing than close friendship, so this may shift sympathies to closer types.

    You've chosen 3 base T as giving the most friendly sympathy to you. Not just T, but base T. And not just near top prevail, but 3 T types are top. Your types preference gives good chance for F.

    I may look at your video to get additional info about your type
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    people which inspire friendly sympathy. by the recommendations

    > I don't think I'm an F type

    T types are more personally attracted ("soul" attraction) and more find as pleasant F people, which give higher irrational friendly sympathy. T for T are some boring as persons. More clear this is for people of other sex. Own sex is significantly associated with a cooperation and a competing than close friendship, so this may shift sympathies to closer types.

    You've chosen 3 base T as giving the most friendly sympathy to you. Not just T, but base T. And not just near top prevail, but 3 T types are top. Your types preference gives good chance for F.
    That is fine. That is your opinion.

    I will say that I'm still not sure exactly what you mean by friendly sympathy, especially towards the opposite sex. If you mean friends, then yes most of my friends are mostly T types, all male. So this kind of test doesn't help.

    I don't believe in having a soulmate.

    Also, what about people who enjoy both sexes? How do you judge their attraction? This is kind of funny. But I understand your reasoning.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    I may look at your video to get additional info about your type
    No, thank you.

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    Sol loves to type people who don't value Fe as SEI and other Fe valuing types, lol, it's amusing.
    "The seed of suffering in you may be strong, but don't wait until you have no more suffering before allowing yourself to be happy."

    4 core, sx/so slight sx bend, maybe 469 (they call me The Seeker!) 4w5, 6w7, 9w1, IEE-Fi Harmonic with IEI flavors




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    Quote Originally Posted by COOL AND MANLY View Post
    I will say that I'm still not sure exactly what you mean by friendly sympathy, especially towards the opposite sex. If you mean friends, then yes most of my friends are mostly T types, all male. So this kind of test doesn't help.
    If you used the test according to the recommendations, then with high possibility your type is F. What is friendly sympathy is evident.

    Your forum's communications does not exclude F type.
    So your type was more clear, I need your video.

    P.S. to add your sex in the profile is useful
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by bouncingoffclouds View Post
    Sol loves to type people who don't value Fe as SEI and other Fe valuing types, lol, it's amusing.
    It is, but it kind of makes sense though. How amused would you be if he didn't share his reasoning? I appreciate that he is willing to explain himself.

    He uses process of elimination to arrive at the type which is logical, and it looks like because my first three preferences were all base T he eliminated all T types for me. Which is kind of extreme, he immediately lowered his chances of getting the type correctly by 50 percent. I think that is his biggest mistake. But I think it can be improved. I don't know what he would have done if I had a mix of T and F up there, I will just look at his other posts to find out.

    Then he relies on Intertype Relations as described by socionics to choose which relations are most comfortable and which are not. This is fine.

    It's a two step process. Very simple actually. I like it.

    I do think I value Fe btw. My hatred for Fi is actually much higher and deeper. It just that my Fi is more developed. I self-type as LII.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    If you used the test according to the recommendations, then with high possibility your type is F. What is friendly sympathy is evident.

    Your forum's communications does not exclude F type.
    So your type was more clear, I need your video.

    P.S. to add your sex in the profile is useful
    No worries, friend. I'm male.

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    @Sol

    By the way. This is assuming that all your typings are correct, which I very much doubt. But in the spirit of being fair, I played along.

    I still enjoyed your test.

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    @COOL AND MANLY
    the most useful you may do to understand own type is to make a videointerview
    unlike with F, your concrete F type is lesser clear
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    @COOL AND MANLY
    the most useful you may do to understand own type is to make a videointerview
    unlike with F, your concrete F type is lesser clear
    The best I can do is send you a picture in private if you want. Even my mom doesn't have a video of me. I don't like the attention.

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