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    What is the benefit relation between ILE and EIE like? I can not picture it at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerfadder View Post
    What is the benefit relation between ILE and EIE like? I can not picture it at all.
    I know one ILE-EIE couple. What is it that you want to know??
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    I had EIE flatmate once.


    I think I'm pointing out all sorts of corrections to their conceptual diarrhea. Connecting dots and correcting wrong ones that were floating around in his head.
    He (and I) made lot of mess to point of where we got notifications about cleanliness.

    I told him that we need to get our shit together temporarily. It was instant. Victims are weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    I know one ILE-EIE couple. What is it that you want to know??
    Which one is which sex, does their relation seem good and beneficial, how does the ILE benefit the EIE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by unsuccessfull Alphamale View Post
    I had EIE flatmate once.


    I think I'm pointing out all sorts of corrections to their conceptual diarrhea. Connecting dots and correcting wrong ones that were floating around in his head.
    He (and I) made lot of mess to point of where we got notifications about cleanliness.

    I told him that we need to get our shit together temporarily. It was instant. Victims are weird.
    Conceptual diarrhea like what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerfadder View Post
    Conceptual diarrhea like what?
    He is kind of philosophical person but he really liked to expand his views regarding natural sciences. Extremely interested in .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerfadder View Post
    Which one is which sex, does their relation seem good and beneficial, how does the ILE benefit the EIE?
    They are homosexual men.

    I don't consider it to be a good relationship, but they don't have any conflicts that I know of. My personal opinion is that they both need a wakeup call.

    The ILE is not able to let his Ne run freely. The EIE wants Ti so ILE has to adopt to that.

    The ILE is secretly in doubt about the relationship, I feel. But because of Fi PoLR it is too painful for him to admit it.

    The EIE seems to often be irritated or acting like he is not really pleased with the situation.
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    They are homosexual men.

    I don't consider it to be a good relationship, but they don't have any conflicts that I know of. My personal opinion is that they both need a wakeup call.

    The ILE is not able to let his Ne run freely. The EIE wants Ti so ILE has to adopt to that.

    The ILE is secretly in doubt about the relationship, I feel. But because of Fi PoLR it is too painful for him to admit it.

    The EIE seems to often be irritated or acting like he is not really pleased with the situation.
    Sounds like a special case of relation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerfadder View Post
    Sounds like a special case of relation.
    These assymetrical relations are difficult.
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    These assymetrical relations are difficult.
    I would not put supervision and benefit in the same bag. Benefit are great. In your particular example there are sexual minorities and assumptions of what they are feeling at play which make it not the best example of benefit, imo. Thanks for sharing tho and same at to @unsuccessfull Alphamale

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerfadder View Post
    I would not put supervision and benefit in the same bag. Benefit are great. In your particular example there are sexual minorities and assumptions of what they are feeling at play which make it not the best example of benefit, imo. Thanks for sharing tho and same at to @unsuccessfull Alphamale
    No but they are difficult because they are experienced differently by the persons involved. I don't consider benefit great, been there. I only go for same quadra or semi-dual. That's it.
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

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    Given equal intellectual levels, I would think that the ILE could provide a realistic perspective of things that the EIE is already aware of but hasn't thought of in quite that way. ILEs can sometimes prevent EIEs from getting ahead of themselves and doing something rash. However, the EIE should just take the perspective and run with it alone because an ILE will never measure up to EIE productivity standards.......

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