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    Hi,

    I can't explain exactly how to do it. I discovered a method to type people instantly based upon their birth date.

    Following a certain reasoning, the time of the year is related to the whole spectrum of visible colors.

    The years is divided in four :

    Summer Solstice (Yellow) - June 21
    Fall Equinox (Red) - September 22 RGB (255,0,0) Y axis
    Winter Solstice (Blue) - December 22 RGB (0,0,255) X axis
    Spring Equinox (Green) - March 21

    A birth date correspond to a part of the spectrum and a precise color or "a frequency".

    It can then be translated on a Y - X axis on a grid where the MBTI parameters are written.

    From a birth date you can obtain the psychological characteristics of any individual.

    So there is 16 millions colours and as much profiles.

    Based upon this method and some research i made the 5 last years, i made a database of 250 000 celebrities with their MBTI profiles.

    I need some advice or reviews to modify it or make the needed adjustments. Maybe i can add some features.

    Unfortunatly i locked the cells and hide some spreadsheets, to protect my work, but it's still functionnal.

    Soon, i will post the complete list if i can with the results.

    I need some reviews...

    Here is the link of the Database (12,1 Mo) (Link Edited) : https://goo.gl/bLzGRk
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    Sorry but I think this kind of thing is just mind going crazy.

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    Please, do not open unless you are 100 % safe .
    pic.png

    Overall seems to open up. I don't have microsoft stuff.

    Why don't you just post source code?


    I don't really understand how astrology can be seen as plausible. Afterall there is underlying biology.


    Please, do not open unless you are 100 % safe .
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    It does not work for me...


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    that link doesn't work for me Boris! I like the idea, it's been done astrologically as well, and your division of the year indeed is astrological! I like it, I'm November purple! Many people told me they think of me as purple so wow.. yes, nice!

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    Yes, run weird macro documents inside virtual machine. I have lost 99 % of people.


    Please, do not open unless you know that you are 100 % safe.


    Checked it with VirusTotal and it passed the test.
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    I converted your document to odt-format.
    Overall it seems OK.

    Inside that odt archive is 187 Mb (uncompressed) xml file that contains typings. This is not the best way to share information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unsuccessfull Alphamale View Post
    I converted your document to odt-format.
    Overall it seems OK.

    Inside that odt archive is 187 Mb (uncompressed) xml file that contains typings. This is not the best way to share information.
    show please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hybris theory View Post
    show please!
    It is hardly readable to a human.

    File is huge and information is scattered in different sections. It takes computer program to sort it out.
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    =( so many incomprehensible geniuses around

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    Quote Originally Posted by hybris theory View Post
    =( so many incomprehensible geniuses around
    Also crazy people!

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    LOL Paul Dirac is SLE?
    Isaac Newton is ESI?

    AND BTW

    Donald Trump drum roll

     

    IEI

    Loser Hillary Clinton is ILE
    Britney Spears LSI
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    I mean he is sort of a scumbag poet. maybe in the future we'll look at him as the forerunner to an entirely new way of understanding language

    he's certainly wormed his way into the heart of like 14% of the population

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    I will remove the macro. It is used for a color code inside the document. The document is safe. I don't know why you can't see it. The document is a Microsoft Excel 2007 Document.
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    I remove the color Macro and i remove the protection of the Document. The cell was locked because i hide some ugly spreadsheet and calculations.

    Here is the link of the Database : https://goo.gl/bLzGRk

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    @Boris can we somehow enter our own details on the spreadsheet and calculate our likely types using your formula?
    If so please let us know how to proceed.

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    Now I can open it without serious memory leakage issues in LibreOffice.

    Why did you hide your database name sheet?

    You can add your own name and birthday in there.

    I did and it was painfully slow and I entered formula to keep up with with lines (LO). Excel is not really the way to go with databases.

    I guess you could just strip information using script that fetches information from Wikipedia to make it simpler.
    starting from there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_celebrities
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    Does this means that twins always are the same personality type?

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    Looks like I'm LSE 1w2 9w1
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    There is some work related to genetics and the transmission of personality traits from the parents to children. This is the reason why there is a genotype generator inside the workbook. I work on a punnett square generator who predict the personalities of children based upon the birth date of the parents. It's too complicated, and i can't post that thing here.

    In the morning i made a copy of the database of CelebrityTypes.com and i compared the types they give with the values of my list. It seems that typology is very subjective and there is no clear method to rely on. The success rate is less than 25 % and there is no consensus among people on the web when it come to type certain personalities.

    By the way, i send you the link of the Complete List with the value inferred, but i know there is some errors, the limits (the lenght) of each type is difficult to adjust. i.e : Isaac Newton is born january 4...and he is INTJ. The transition between INTJ type and ISFP happen around january 4-5. So the majority of people who are born january 4 appear to be INTJ and the people who are born the next day seems to be ISFP. Unfortunatly in the list Newton is typed ISFP and i know this is an error. So there i some adjustement to be made again.

    Here is the Complete List, it's very big : https://goo.gl/grf6KY

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    I actually got my mother's type.

    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung
     
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    @Boris78 Can you please provide the transition dates to different types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unsuccessfull Alphamale View Post
    Yes, run weird macro documents inside virtual machine. I have lost 99 % of people.


    Please, do not open unless you know that you are 100 % safe.


    Checked it with VirusTotal and it passed the test.
    I'm thinking this might be your suggestive .
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

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    @LeShay : Yes here it is : https://goo.gl/zBFnAE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    I'm thinking this might be your suggestive .
    My experience tells that many people can not solve technical problems when something unexpected happens.

    if I gave some sort of vague answer I might later discover that particular person tried to install program by downloading it from malware sites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unsuccessfull Alphamale View Post
    My experience tells that many people can not solve technical problems when something unexpected happens.

    if I gave some sort of vague answer I might later discover that particular person tried to install program by downloading it from malware sites.
    I know. But the feeling that something suspicious "dirty" is crawling around in the code could be related to .

    Im not at all questioning the actual fact or need for warning. But people emphasize different things.
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    I know. But the feeling that something suspicious "dirty" is crawling around in the code could be related to .

    Im not at all questioning the actual fact or need for warning. But people emphasize different things.
    Some descriptions say that ILEs tend to warn people just in case.

    I think it could be due to prognosis. Not necessarily dirty but unpleasant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unsuccessfull Alphamale View Post
    Some descriptions say that ILEs tend to warn people just in case.

    I think it could be due to prognosis. Not necessarily dirty but unpleasant.

    I think computers can offer a canvas for Si-projections. We talk about "cleaning up the system". A "cluttered" system, "dirty code", "infection" etc.

    In reality it's virtual but we think of it in those physical terms related to hygiene and sensing and the organic world
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

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    About 80% of the thread is not related to the subject. Two guys discuss about their computer problems. I'm new to this forum, and sincerely i don't want to stay here. Bye!

    Note: No i'm not a hacker neither a script kiddie or a teenager... i'm 40 years old. I rarely participate on forums.... there is always some dumb users everywhere we go.
    I don't know if you are a moderator and i really don't want to know. But you are dumb. Maybe there is some individuals here who are great, sorry for them. Bye

    Do us a favor, "FORMAT" your brain...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris78 View Post
    About 80% of the thread is not related to the subject. Two guys discuss about their computer problems. I'm new to this forum, and sincerely i don't want to stay here. Bye!

    Note: No i'm not a hacker neither a script kiddie or a teenager... i'm 40 years old. I rarely participate on forums.... there is always some dumb users everywhere we go.
    I don't know if you are a moderator and i really don't want to know. But you are dumb. Maybe there is some individuals here who are great, sorry for them. Bye

    Do us a favor, "FORMAT" your brain...

    This is the most amazingly useful tool I have ever come across for typing purposes.

    Yes a little refinement still in progress is noted but this is the best a human has yet come up with in my opinion!

    I spent a large amount of the weekend going through it with the assistance of husband and we were both in awe and excitement with what you have produced.

    Everything from your program is in alignment with the typing of those in my life especially once you provided the crossover dates where a few people did cross over and a few did not. The ones who did crossover it was only by one day. If you are interested at all in what those particular dates are then I can send them privately to you here on the forum.

    Overall your work is phenomenal and I hope you receive the assistance in programming etc that you are looking for and that your work becomes recognised for what it is.

    I was stunned that you were banned a few days back. So sorry that you have not been treated in a better manner.
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    @Boris78 could you please clarify why the INTx's swap the j and p in the Socionics part of your model but the INFx's do not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boris78 View Post
    About 80% of the thread is not related to the subject. Two guys discuss about their computer problems. I'm new to this forum, and sincerely i don't want to stay here. Bye!

    Note: No i'm not a hacker neither a script kiddie or a teenager... i'm 40 years old. I rarely participate on forums.... there is always some dumb users everywhere we go.
    I don't know if you are a moderator and i really don't want to know. But you are dumb. Maybe there is some individuals here who are great, sorry for them. Bye

    Do us a favor, "FORMAT" your brain...
    What do you expect?? If you enter a forum claiming that the STARS determine the socionics type of a person, then most people will think you are crazy or very uninformed about type.

    A small hint: Presenting really good evidence might help
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

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    I'm sorry for your departure Boris, I liked your idea lots but I'm one of those dumbs who still couldn't open the damn program. By the sheet I'd be LSI and I'm not, but it's nevertheless a really fascinating work, keep it on and don't get so bothered by a bunch of online idiots like us pls.
    @Tallmo pfff all socionics comes indirectly from the astrological types, Ikr, tis crazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by hybris theory View Post
    @Tallmo pfff all socionics comes indirectly from the astrological types, Ikr, tis crazy
    You can associate all you want and connect different fields intuitively. That doesnt help. Socionics is all about learning to observe cognitive processes empirically. Its a fact that there are 16 types. It comes from reality. If you let your intuition run free im sure you can connect it with all kinds of mythologies. As you can with everything.

    Im not gonna argue about this anymore. I appreciate astrology as a mythology. Because thats what it is. It says something about the unconscious in projected form. As do all mythology. But to take it litterally is not the right thing.
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    You can associate all you want and connect different fields intuitively. That doesnt help. Socionics is all about learning to observe cognitive processes empirically. Its a fact that there are 16 types. It comes from reality. If you let your intuition run free im sure you can connect it with all kinds of mythologies. As you can with everything.

    Im not gonna argue about this anymore. I appreciate astrology as a mythology. Because thats what it is. It says something about the unconscious in projected form. As do all mythology. But to take it litterally is not the right thing.
    I agree with pretty much it all but if you get to read about how Jung formulated his hypothesis (and obviously both MBTI and socion even more come from it) you'll see how influenced he was by astrology and other eastern spiritual ideas. Yeah he worked them out but they're evidently at the core, he even argued with many of his colleagues because of the origin of his ideas and the ideas themselves, and no wonder this side of his research went in the folder of "Jung's crap" later, but it's still there. Not to mention that typology methods are as abstract as astrology, now it's cool that it is labeled as "psychological", it instantly acquires a title, but not for this it can be scientifically proved.

    It's funny I just went in the same argument talking of the provable side of astrology on an astrology forum eh

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    this is what I don't understand, if being born on a certain date determined type, wouldn't it be obvious everyone born on x date was y type?

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    there's actually the hour of birth that determines a chart, but there's even the genetic inheritance, and every sort of influences at play to make what a person is. astrology is one of the many influences we are subjected to. all of them makes what we are. i like to see people efforts in trying to mold these two disciplines together, i think indeed there's much truth to them both, so that the hybrid of the two could be even more true.. this guy made a research about the enneagram in astrology https://vissesh.home.xs4all.nl/mysti...am/famous.html, he came to see that each planet has a more or less significant probability to be associated to a type. and this is just about planets, consider each person has at least 10 planets, and we know that in enneagram there are 2 contacts for type, and tritypes, so that the shades to every personality are more layered somehow... his findings came to see that the same enneagrams are shared by people with the same planets. I still have to grasp that article fully though ... hmmm yeah birth hour is very important, nothing to say about it.

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