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there's actually the hour of birth that determines a chart, but there's even the genetic inheritance, and every sort of influences at play to make what a person is. astrology is one of the many influences we are subjected to. all of them makes what we are. i like to see people efforts in trying to mold these two disciplines together, i think indeed there's much truth to them both, so that the hybrid of the two could be even more true.. this guy made a research about the enneagram in astrology https://vissesh.home.xs4all.nl/mysti...am/famous.html, he came to see that each planet has a more or less significant probability to be associated to a type. and this is just about planets, consider each person has at least 10 planets, and we know that in enneagram there are 2 contacts for type, and tritypes, so that the shades to every personality are more layered somehow... his findings came to see that the same enneagrams are shared by people with the same planets. I still have to grasp that article fully though
... hmmm yeah birth hour is very important, nothing to say about it.
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