I expect you didn't mean any harm by saying that, and I do follow your logic. It's an emotions/feelings thing, though. I could break it down for you if you like, here or elsewhere? It's hard to tell what needs explaining and what doesn't.
You remind me a bit of my brother-in-law. One time the family was hanging out and the topic of hair straightening came up. Both my mother and sister (wife of my brother-in-law) had regularly had their hair professionally straightened. He asked them why and a bit about the process, seeming satisfied with their responses. He looked at my mom, then at my sister, then looked at me and more closely at my hair. With a straight face and in innocent seriousness he somewhat brusquely asked me, "Why don't you get your hair straightened?"
*sigh* lol
Oh, to find you in dreams - mixing prior, analog, and never-beens... facts slip and turn and change with little lucidity. except the strong, permeating reality of emotion.
thank God, Adam needs an EII to break it down for him the same way Medusa needs an ILE. please, please please take Minde up on the offer to work on this
and Adam, I'm saying this because most people just disregard you as a creepy asshole and I don't think that's fair to go around totally deluded like that. You deserve the truth. If nothing else be like Jack and go seclude yourself for a while and come back a new man. its such a waste to live your whole life like that, being on the outs and not knowing it. maybe you don't care, but then you won't care about my assessment either, so whatever. I have to try
By all means, @Minde, break it down for me. I respect your opinion and your thoughts, so I'd like to hear what you have to say. You can do it in a PM if you wish. That would be preferable to me, anyway.
I'm out for a day or so (travel), so there's no rush.
How would @Bertrand explain my "relationship" with Adam?
Doesn't seem like Conflict to me.
And I also don't know what an ILE would help me with much. Could you enlighten me?
I don't think I need more silly ideas or possibilities to think about...
Pink elephants? Red dinosaurs? Imagine the illuminati symbol on the backside of your ass!
Whoooo
f yeah.
I'm pretty sure that's an insult to male SEE's. Also, isn't extraverted sensing like the most manliest IE of all?
I'm also pretty sure that Fi doesn't have to be feminine in any way, especially not when combined with Se.
Also, if I were to be SEE and I was uncomfortable looking like a SEE because it would be ''too feminine'', wouldn't I try to look more like a SLE instead?
I'm pretty sure it's nigh impossible to impose yourself as your dual. Duals are almost complete opposites in almost every way.
Yeah, just like everybody else.
@Persephone
Wow you're pretty.
You seem INFj or INFp to me. then again it's only 2 pictures and you're like staring at me ''mystically'' so I naturally associate that with those types.
You remind me a bit of my sister, actually, who typed as MBTI INFJ
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@Persephone you remind me a bit of Carice van Houten. She's the actress who plays The Red Priestess in GOT - Often typed as EII
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...es-with-Videos
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ing-EIIs-INFjs
nah you got me all wrong. my point was that Se is manly, but in terms of style and sense of humor you'll be more like your dual because you can't get away from your cognitive functions, which is why you wouldnt be more like SLE (not to mention quadral values). in some sense 4d valued Se is what it is, so you'll have some aspects in common with SLE. but you wouldn't want to use those aspects to imitate them, rather your image of "cool" and "masculine" would be along gamma lines
im not trying to insult you and I think male SEEs are manlier than me, for example
yeah it can go either way, when people tend to not be encouraged according to their base type they tend to resemble their dual more
check this chick out. She types as ILI and after listening to her, I believe her. but she's definitely got more of a SEE style. I think it goes both ways so male SEE will express themselves more like ILI is stereotypically thought of in a lot of ways (blunt, analytical, detached, pragmatic, loner, etc), especially, I believe if they're more internet based, and not like jocks or whatever
I mean it doesn't have to go this way, I'm sure there's goth or whatever female ILIs but its just a phenomenon that I've noticed happens sometimes and I think it has to do with similar core values but inverse strengths, so its almost like one imitates the other but not as well, and then is too good in other ways
I don't know if you're ILI or SEE for sure or not, and I do think the weird tradition of typing people right off the bat may as well be "type my social mask" because you only get a good feel for people after a good chunk of time, and also new people's responses to questions and ideas changes as they themselves develop their own understanding of the theory. its always a cluster at first. id say give it 6 months and then you and the community will have a much stronger idea and a much deeper pool to draw on for assessment
My behavioral loci are clearly more outward than inward most of the time. Sure, maybe I'll crash a bit if a schedule is hard to adapt to or I'm barraged with tasks far outside my comfort zone, but aside from that I'm more likely to feel stir-crazed than bombarded with too much information. I think I'm Extroverted and so do the people immediately around me. And I'm not innately rational, I just try really hard to be.
I may be misrepresenting his rationale, but as I understand it, he types me Fi because I view my emotions as "belonging" to myself rather than my environment. They're a volatile but pervasive part of my mental life. Like I'd rather shell myself off than try to integrate my own feels into a precarious or demanding situation. I think that's what he meant?
But at the same time I don't do a very good job containing them, and each increment of my anger is clearly visible as it builds up to combustion or the stimulus dissipates. Instead of feeling one thing and displaying another, I have to force myself to stop giving a shit for the moment except to complete the task at hand. (This isn't because I think it feels "phony," it's just very hard for me to fake what isn't there.) I'd rather be expected to be polite than warm and gregarious, but it's more in my nature to be blunt and scrappy than polite.
.onion
Think you're on to something.
Yes I've already posted pictures but I usually delete them after some time. People do tell me from time to time I remind them someone but they never get to put the finger on it. Maybe we met in our past lives?
Thanks, you are sweet. I selftype INFJ in MBTI , though I was officially typed INTJ step 1 and 2.
<3 Someone suggested that before, thanks... She is mesmerizing in GOT.
Have you considered ESI?
I got a quite strong SE vibe from your third pic in particular (strong presence/domination from the eyes)
and you seem to fit in quite nicely with these guys:
https://www.pinterest.com/socionics/esi-fi/
not really, no, my Se sucks : )
is ESI all I get? : /
do you have any older pics that would illustrate some development over time
i like to get a feel for the flow of a person's life because it seems like people can radically change their image and just a snapshot of one or the other may not be representative of the whole
yeah robespierre will fight, he just does so like a rooster
in the same way the guy in that video is expressive, its just fucking annoying. thus is the way of the polr
a good way to think of polr is when you go all in you're like a shittier version of your conflictor
@Bert
the pics were from when I was in order, 22, 23, 18, 24
hmm, I picked them because I look fine to me, I usually look awkward in pictures and make the weirdest expressions, kind of too self-consciousness at play... hm, maybe my selection reverted to compensate what I usually lack. It's nice to see what people see anyway : )
yeah I feel the same way about my own pics
Actually yeah I think @Bertrand posts way too much subjective Internal IE stuff to be Te lead, if the only two options were LIE and ESI then Fi lead makes more sense, and, as for the Ni, ESIs can be philosophical on that level he's doing alright.
yay im the prettiest girl in the socion
looks are so deceitful when people are blind tsk ; )
I agree with @neproblems that there is a lot of Se in the second, third, and fourth pics. I'd say you are ESI-Se from VI, TBH. The second pic looks a bit like @blackburry, and the third pic looks a bit like @kalinoche, and the fourth pic just looks ESI.
The woman in your avatar picture, on the other hand, looks like she is an N-type, sort of like spider. I assume that is not you, because.....eyebrows. However, different pictures of one person can vary a lot. Personally, I have taken pictures of me that my own mother didn't recognize.
I am LIE, and I find the second and third pictures attractive. I can see "prettiness" in other types, but duals are a type that I find to actually be attractive*. This typing method may be worth as much and be as subjective as VI, though. Take it with a grain of salt.
*Full disclosure, probably TMI: I find LSI's and SLI's to be attractive, too, but in a different way than ESI's.
the "ur hot therefore ESI" method is worthless and you should stop using it
its so Si and Ni polr if there was any doubt in my mind you're LSE that post definitely sealed it
also no one gives a fuck about what you find attractive so you can stop bringing it up at every available opportunity
its Ni creative like me taking a shit is Si creative, and I'm no manzoni
I guess I've selected some pictures that make me look kind of different from how I usually look, I can blame that. It's a pity though that as soon as one appears a bit.. confident (?? Idk what makes you say I'm Se) then it's labelled as Se. Lolling. I'm the least confident person ever anyway : )
@Myst
I can tell I'm not Se because I value intuition, patterns, brain connections, delving in my dreams and in other people's minds as well as in mine. If I focus into something my brain starts scanning all that a subject is about, I don't follow its dynamics anymore and get lost in my head. I'm not Se because I'm not attuned with the "physical" world, so to speak, I don't "live in the moment", so to speak, and I can't take advantage of situations. I'm not organized, not like to keep myself and my environment in place, and I really fail to many of the descriptions of ESI.
Ne is more my thing, and even my subtype, which is supposed to make people more lively than the stereotyped EII you all seem to have in mind.
Nice try : )
・゚*✧ 𝓘 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑒𝓅𝓉 𝒶 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒 𝓘 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓇𝓋𝑒 ✧*:・゚
@Adam
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these are some of the test I took in the last 2 years, I did more but the results never varied from this... I tried twice now to take the sociotype.com test but it doesn't process, ugh. I usually get straight IEE in there, irrational subtype.
Aha.
@hybris theory have you taken this test yet?
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...TIONAL-ASPECTS