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    Default Examples of Creative Function's Contexts/Products

    When I went to sleep last night, this quote popped up in my head

    the creative function describes his main instrument for interacting with the rest of society ("How do I make contact with other people?"). For extroverts this means creating a context for people to interact within, and for introvertscreating a product worthy of being included in interaction.
    So I wanted to ask if anyone can give examples of what could be a (context/product) of each IE or type?
    also, why context for extroverts and product for introverts?
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    Taking myself as the example for IEE.

    I feel that people are quite at the mercy of my humanitarian (dis-)approval. This is the context I impose since my base function believes in the fact that we could make things differently and freely without convention. So the latter requires this framework of people scrutiny and interrelation that I would regulate according to the basic ideas I follow.

    That's also how my contradictory PoLR works, I believe. It makes zero sense to judge someone while at the same time advocating "do as you like, develop your potential!".

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    - When planning his birthday the LSI I know asked every single guest about their eating habits (gluten free, vegan, pescetarian, lactose intolerant, no pork) and then made a detailed table with all dishes and market exactly who could not eat what. Sadly we had no EIE who could appreciate his work. He's a good host.

    - SEIs create comfort. On our x-mas celebration she cooked and decorated. She's an excellent host and very caring. They are also very critical and willingly engage in political discussions. Same goes for ESE with the exception that they also create a lot of laughter and try to include everyone in games and talk but mind serious topics that could spoil the mood.

    - EIEs are similar to ESE's in that matter. They can be reasonably good cooks, prepare activities and are good planners and organizers for trips of any kind. They are hard workers and group oriented.

    - LIEs create opportunities for others (for your career and social connections). They will invite you to activities and celebrations or hire you for their company/start-up. In case they like you they'll even plan your future. They also give great advice which they can back up with life experience.

    - SEEs promote people. They make jokes, can talk about your best qualities (preferably your knowledge and skills) in front of others when you feel down in hopes of lifting your mood. They can laugh about shocking Fe-Porl jokes and make ILI's feel less awkward around others.

    - ESIs are great advocades for others. This doesn't sound like much but it means the world when you think you're the root of all problems and then an ESI arrives and wipes the floor with the real culprit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmic Teapot View Post
    - When planning his birthday the LSI I know asked every single guest about their eating habits (gluten free, vegan, pescetarian, lactose intolerant, no pork) and then made a detailed table with all dishes and market exactly who could not eat what. Sadly we had no EIE who could appreciate his work. He's a good host.

    - SEIs create comfort. On our x-mas celebration she cooked and decorated. She's an excellent host and very caring. They are also very critical and willingly engage in political discussions. Same goes for ESE with the exception that they also create a lot of laughter and try to include everyone in games and talk but mind serious topics that could spoil the mood.

    - EIEs are similar to ESE's in that matter. They can be reasonably good cooks, prepare activities and are good planners and organizers for trips of any kind. They are hard workers and group oriented.

    - LIEs create opportunities for others (for your career and social connections). They will invite you to activities and celebrations or hire you for their company/start-up. In case they like you they'll even plan your future. They also give great advice which they can back up with life experience.

    - SEEs promote people. They make jokes, can talk about your best qualities (preferably your knowledge and skills) in front of others when you feel down in hopes of lifting your mood. They can laugh about shocking Fe-Porl jokes and make ILI's feel less awkward around others.

    - ESIs are great advocades for others. This doesn't sound like much but it means the world when you think you're the root of all problems and then an ESI arrives and wipes the floor with the real culprit
    Isn't the LSI example more about + than the creative function? Same with opportunities and uplifting for LIE and SEE. Mood making for SEI is good, as is planning for EIE. ESI was on point, when they enforce their moral they're at their best.

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    LSI's creative rather enforces their logical framework, so the "product" then would be having all in law and order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    LSI's creative rather enforces their logical framework, so the "product" then would be having all in law and order.
    ...so a table?

    We're talking about the guy who's filatova potrait I showed you once
    I can assure you LSI's are exceptional planners and very detail oriented
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmic Teapot View Post
    ...so a table?

    We're talking about the guy who's filatova potrait I showed you once
    I can assure you LSI's are exceptional planners and very detail oriented
    The method he used could also be , and since was the primary step it's not the clear-cut LSI ego process we're looking for here. No doubt they are!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    I feel that people are quite at the mercy of my humanitarian (dis-)approval.
    I feel sorry for them

    That's also how my contradictory PoLR works, I believe. It makes zero sense to judge someone while at the same time advocating "do as you like, develop your potential!".
    I like this correlation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmic Teapot View Post
    ...so a table?

    We're talking about the guy who's filatova potrait I showed you once
    I can assure you LSI's are exceptional planners and very detail oriented
    what @Chae is trying to say is that the example you wrote is of LSI's demonstrative function not the creative function
    so she wasn't trying to say he isn't a LSI
    ^correct me if I am wrong @Chae

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    I feel sorry for them
    It's primarily users, I've witnessed egos to be receptive and professionally factual about it instead so I have to mention there is a divide I'm aware of. It's quite interesting quadra-wise, and how elements fit together.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    I like this correlation
    You could extrapolate this to other types, the weak functions can spoil the strong ones. That's why the demonstrative is so terribly important behind the creative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    what @Chae is trying to say is that the example you wrote is of LSI's demonstrative function not the creative function
    so she wasn't trying to say he isn't a LSI
    ^correct me if I am wrong @Chae
    All correct, thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    It's primarily users
    oh then I made a typo I meant "I DO NOT feel sorry for them"

    You could extrapolate this to other types, the weak functions can spoil the strong ones. That's why the demonstrative is so terribly important behind the creative.
    yeah I guess for the creative function to be really creative in realizing the base function's goals, it should not be constrained by other functions to make that possible the opposite IE should be the weakest function (PoLR), it makes sense

    It was very insightful I haven't thought of how Creative & PoLR affect each other before, thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Mood making for SEI is good, as is planning for EIE.
    Creative in EIE is about expressing or manipulating the mind. A teacher has to be in tune with the pupils stream of consciousness and manipulate in desired direction. An actor has to express a character so we get the impression that there is a living soul under the character.

    I disagree that SEIs create moods. They are basically decorators (if they have devloped their ego functions).
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

    (Jung on Si)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Creative in EIE is about expressing or manipulating the mind. A teacher has to be in tune with the pupils stream of consciousness and manipulate in desired direction. An actor has to express a character so we get the impression thdt there is a living soul under the character.

    I disagree that SEIs create moods. They are basically decorators (if they have devloped their ego functions). Sensations are valued with Fe.
    Mhm yeah the unconscious purpose, good examples.

    Moods and decoration alike!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simo View Post
    oh then I made a typo I meant "I DO NOT feel sorry for them"



    yeah I guess for the creative function to be really creative in realizing the base function's goals, it should not be constrained by other functions to make that possible the opposite IE should be the weakest function (PoLR), it makes sense

    It was very insightful I haven't thought of how Creative & PoLR affect each other before, thanks
    Oh you don't, well is it that you value ?

    Yeah they get in each other's way so rightfully you'd need an unvalued function to help the ego block. No problem, cool!

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