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    I'm curious if many of the natural physical changes we go through are more stressful for Si users (especially ISFj, ESFj, ISTp) due to their internal awareness of sensations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sorrows View Post
    I'm curious if many of the natural physical changes we go through are more stressful for Si users (especially ISFj, ESFj, ISTp) due to their internal awareness of sensations. I would include ESTj but they seem to plow right through problems and seem unfazed by much.

    Would aging, developing arthritis, weight gain, etc. etc. be especially more difficult on Si leading? On that note would many of these changes be easier on say an ENFj?
    this is so hard to answer because one person can't feel how that same feeling feels to another person, to be able to compare directly.

    What I do notice is that some people get extremely worked up about little bodily sensations, while some other people are barely fazed by like horrible things happening health wise. The former may be related to anxiety perhaps? or sleep deprivation? no idea. There's definitely a dichotomy there though.
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    From what I've heard and observed from my SLI husband, he's infinitely more concerned about aging, appearances, and associated changes than I am. He even noted some silver streaks he's developed on either side of his head- neither of which I noticed, although I would find that rather attractive in him


    He doesn't have an ounce of fat on him either, and despite his strict exercise regimen, he's concerned that his abs are no longer cut, and that he's slowing down into his mid 30's. I have zero concerns about him as far as that goes, but it's as if he sees every detail. I'm not sure if he's coming around to the acceptance stage, or if he's just quietly agonizing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by applejacks View Post
    From what I've heard and observed from my SLI husband, he's infinitely more concerned about aging, appearances, and associated changes than I am. He even noted some silver streaks he's developed on either side of his head- neither of which I noticed, although I would find that rather attractive in him


    He doesn't have an ounce of fat on him either, and despite his strict exercise regimen, he's concerned that his abs are no longer cut, and that he's slowing down into his mid 30's. I have zero concerns about him as far as that goes, but it's as if he sees every detail. I'm not sure if he's coming around to the acceptance stage, or if he's just quietly agonizing.
    I'm a bit similar about this even though I theorethically am Si Polr, I think it may be a personality trait which is indipendant from anything else...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sorrows View Post
    hi applejacks...is he a 3 or have a 3 wing? I think aging is even harder on 3s...
    Im not sure his enneagram, but if I had to guess, I'd say a 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sorrows View Post
    On that note would many of these changes be easier on say an ENFj?
    Dont think so. Thats vulnerable . I was actually thinking that EIEs would be most sensitive to this.

    I would say SEI but mostly as a correlation. Because they can be out of tune with the normal stages of life and then feel that they're missing out. If a person develops a career, gets power, a family, influence, then ageing feels more natural.

    Basically ageing is a problem for anybody who stays too long in youth.
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    I think the types least affected by this are the ignoring types: SxE
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    Avoiding this stress is in the first place. So they'll aspire to find a way to deal with it, counteracting rather than suddenly realizing the repercussions of change. lives day by day.

    LSE is a good example already, and they have the benefits of and as an aid so it's largely connected to how you find this , I think it works better (literally ) blocked with when it comes to managing the stress right away not to dwell in it. PoLR plays a role there though, old age may come as karma later even if they dealt with every pain earlier - that is their mistake, they did it excessively, probably making it worse. Same goes for ESE but not that strongly due to lack of overactive . SEI and ESI strike a balance since they use some and lots of .

    It certainly is felt by all of them, but with the necessary expertise. Some EIE would be more burdened because they can't find the way out, and is particularly prone to see societal implications of it, not only physical ones (those might have been uncatered to/forgotten/given up already because is at its most vulnerable).

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    Body and health maintenance. It is kind of stressful to realize its effects indirectly.
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    Theoretically I would have expected Si egos to be less concerned about this bc they have better control over their health, while Si PoLR might feel this is a very important thing that they can't control (how I feel about my Se PoLR).

    In my experience w Si egos, this has been kind of true. My Si ego friends have better body images even when their physiques are not at their best. I guess one of my LSE friends is concerned about balding though.

    Ah, maybe it's more correlated with the self-preservation instinct rather than Si? Though Si and self-pres are positively correlated anyway so it's hard to distinguish...

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