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    Hi, I've been reading a page on quasi-identical relations and it said that the relationship would be more favorable if the partners were ''dualized''
    Can anyone explain what this means?
    Does this mean that once you've met your dual, you are more of a complete person or something, more capable of understanding relationships in general? Or does this mean that when your dual is around that the relation will be better?

    This is the piece; highlighted it in red.

    R.K. Sedih, "Informational psychoanalysis"

    "Adult" – "self-confident teenager". This interaction resembles mirror relations. Attempts to correct partner, though frequent, almost never reach the degree of complete "discrediting". Partners can argue sometimes for hours, not coming to a consensus, but, nevertheless, obtaining some interesting information along the way, and thus they become imbued with respect for each other. This happens not always but often enough. Cooperation is easy, partners often help each other out. Quasi-identicals are usually positively predisposed towards one another. Though they lack the ability to see each other's point of view, this rarely leads to serious conflicts. Their behavior towards each other for the most part is quite amiable. "Unsure teen" - "child." The second seems a bit rude sometimes, but rarely malicious and selfish.
    If partners are not dualized, their relations are, of course, more difficult.
    Problems in this scenario strongly resemble the interaction of extinguishment, though there is less of a desire to find fault with each other.

    And the link: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...ical-Relations

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    you tend to relax trying to impose your will coming from the less developed functions and learn to trust your dual. when two types that haven't had the benefit of that experience come into contact they both try to act from those weak positions because they've been more or less forced to for most their life. this leads to conflict because they arent positions fully capable of solving complex problems and they are being used because each person has a heightened level of mistrust towards the world in general (usually) compared to a dualized person. its a recipe for conflict because there's real reasons to criticize the other, and real defensiveness in reaction to said criticism. what could break the cycle, mutual trust, is in short supply

    in general people do have brief periods of "dualization" even if they don't realize it. it usually comes out as "wow that went better than I expected--maybe humanity isn't all bad." positive experiences in that vein, whatever you call them, tends to lead to a healthier outlook which smooths over potential differences in future interactions with others, leading to better results... and the opposite is true: negative past experiences can spiral down into fear and anxiety and spoil what could be otherwise good relationships (quasi identicals here, for example)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Does this mean that once you've met your dual, you are more of a complete person or something, more capable of understanding relationships in general?
    This I suppose. But I really don't get why duality could improve a quasi identical relationship...seems senseless to me. Being dualized is significant when you meet your Conflictor for the reason that you said, but I don't think that duality would improve in a significant way any other kind of relationship. I don't see any base for that in my experience.
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    I think it means that if both Quasi-Identical people have a dual (LIE has ESI, ILE has SEI), then their relations with the quasi-identical person (LIE-ILE) are not as bad as they would be if neither one of them had a dual.

    This is probably true in my case. I work with an ILE, and both he and I have duals at work, and we normally get along pretty well with each other. However, last week, both of our duals were on vacation, and he and I had a disagreement that quickly escalated and almost got out of hand. I think both of us were surprised and dismayed.

    As far as I can see, this is the only disadvantage that I have seen to having a dual. When you have been around a dual for a fairly long time and they are suddenly not there, life gets bad, like, right now. One common reaction to things suddenly being very wrong is to lash out, especially if you don't know specifically why things are bad.

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