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    Little words on my xp with duality (men -friendship-, women -love and friendship-)

    1) Ive very hard time with male dominant ESTJ. Almost typed myself INFP for this reason at first. Female don't get me on, I find them often dumb (they probably aren't, just don't like the style). Pushy, just can't imagine you have desire, ambition yourself, everything need to be their way (wich become "the" way....) seem to be unable to introspect, have always right, even when they admit their fault it's for staying over you in an annoying way and generally it end with you feeling guilty whatever the subject or situation. Can't. On a side note, I don't know many, I've probably known some unhealthy ones. Because I can admire some famous one and don't find this bad vibe on them. I think that the problem is that the one Ive known, Ive known them only superficially but failed to open them about their real feeling about things, perhaps a state of mind where they could take thing in an easier and more beautiful way.

    2) Ive had a really good friendship relationship with a creative ESTJ, he was really cool, but he putted not sufficient attention in some domain I was putting attention, idk how to explain. I was finding often he was doing shit with his life almost volontarely. Prob not type related. Anyway it stay a good memory, lot of laugh, lot of experience, this helped myself openning a little about stuff I don't speak often about like speaking about sexuality "like a man". Subject of discussion was really open, it was more myself perhaps that decieved himself because too much closed. His pseudo wannabe spiritual side was really annoying thought, and he didn't made goal like myself, like jumping from a thing to another without taking account that if we stopped a little going everywhere, we could make a great thing together. We have accomplished some stuff together anyway. Relationship ended clearly because I was too introvert/serious/negative (at this time I was somewhat depressed) for him and from some POV differing too much.
    My cousine is a female creative ESTJ and we go along very well, even if there are some stuff we are not seeing the same way, in term of responsabilities/relationship/how we are expressing what we want, dunno how to express it.

    3) Normalizing ESTJ. I only know 4 or 5 female one, we go along very well, here I can really recognize the description of duality given by socionic. Conflict stop smoothly, everything is cool, smooth, fun, not too much, not too little, perfect. It gone bad with one of my ex but that was my fault, it was a bad moment of my life where Ive done shit. If I could I would give temporarly my personnality to them in order they take care a little then take it back without any lack of faith. My main ex was very benevolent to myself, she was trying very much that I give the better of myself, the kind of better that even myself don't know. Really cool relationship.

    4) harmonizing. Had 2 harmonizing ESTJ friend. One was a little annoying (too vain, a kind of empty narcissism -not the disorder, he was cool, we majorly had good time i can't negate-), but the other one was very spiritual and gave a very strong impression in myself. I still admire this personage, he have been my mentor for 6 years. At the core there is still some problem that I have with creative one about setting goal, way of seeing life, etc.
    Last edited by noaydi; 11-28-2018 at 04:20 PM.

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