@Venus Rose seems to be telling people they're not typed correctly. I don't know what her view of LSE is, but we're not nice by nature or gentle. LSE in general is a bit harsh, rough around the edges and comes off as such. I would say that EII is harsh as well and also very judgmental. I have been living with my dual all my life, so I know. EIIs are pretty bossy in that they will often push you into making certain choices or decisions. It's not manipulation, that would be Fe. EIIs are more direct than that. ESI are more assertive, sure but EII is tough, it is after all, the ethical core of the delta quadra. I personally can either deal with or avert them fairly well. But I don't get along with every single person I type as my dual. Duals don't automatically like each other. The point is that they don't. I have often dismissed a lot of delta NFs as being impractical, weird, too judgmental, etc. But at the end of the day, I know my dual when I see them. Me delivering facts like this is not Ti, it's Te. If it bothers you, then you're likely not EII.