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    Quote Originally Posted by Venus Rose View Post
    You thought my understanding of the types was incorrect, or others' understanding was?
    In >50% of cases the type which people think as own is doubtful to be correct.

    Without IR (intertype relations) effects (impressions from people, from their nonverbal) checking with good fiting to theory, with >10 people in types of which you are sure, to be sure in own type is not good.

    > I don't know what you mean here.

    Delilah's type is not EII, but Fe.

    > Don't understand this either.

    A dual in IRL (in real life) communication gives you the impression of friendly sympathy. It's the basic trait of a communication with good IR and noticed the most with duals.

    > Delta quadra is a relatively unpretentious, kind, and gentle quadra.

    There are no "unpretentious" types. They all press others to follow own interests, life understanding and try to make the life own and of others good and better, - more so in own valued regions.

    > I am very soft, non-threatening, and non-aggressive, due to weak and unvalued Se.

    Many introverted women, especially with F types, may describe themselves close to this. INFPs easily, for example.

    > I didn't mean emotional openness

    Emotions as part of the information in the communication also relate to "sincerity".

    The delta specifics is higher respect to objective truth as Te, the objective reality. The abbility of Te types to remember the said to notice the direct lie. The good way to inspire an aversion in Te type - to be caughted on direct lie. As S types are harder to understand people then such situations lead to overprotection and the loss of the trust even more. In general, Te/Fi types tend to do not lie directly, but they may mislead indirectly.

    EII more care about being emotionally pleasant than anything else, what fits to being sincere not more than for EIE.

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    I hope to see your video in typing section. There are no women on forums in which EII type I'm sure. During all years I write on them. I and others can't trust much to what people type themselves, they need to type themselves and a video would help. While the additional opinions about your type mb useful for you too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Venus Rose View Post
    some people misinterpret and misread Fi users, and then they may brand them "manipulative,"
    Some people "misinterpret and misread" the typology theory. The better than T types, conscious control of peoples behavior is the trait of all F types. They all mb called as "manipulative".
    Mostly it's seen as "bad" and hence called by "bad words" like "manipulation" when F values does not match and those kinds of influences are not liked.
    Same subjectivity with what is thought as "bulling". Anything you dislike is bulling.

    There is much of subjectivity in emotionality and in the usage of terms with emotional marks. That was part of what I tried to explain you when you used them. Idealistic simplicity in typology is common for novices.

    Fi types, especially EII/IEE, understand good emotional relativity. Not your case, possibly due to lack of experience with types, or mb other your type. Also for them you shaw too much troubles to understand me, the context of said by me.

    > because they feel manipulated; not because they are being manipulated. Big difference there.

    In general sense, any conscious influence on other human is a manipulation. We want to change in him or his behavior something and influence on him he'd got those changes.
    Last edited by Sol; 11-23-2018 at 11:15 PM.
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