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@Lord Pixel, I'm sorry I didn't see this earlier.

I think you should ignore the advice you got from the guy who said "How would you like to have someone saying that to your GF?" The LSE has a clear (but faulty) idea of her relationships in her head, and she isn't going to be swayed by someone's argument if she doesn't agree with it. So the worst you can do is strike out. But, you can do better.

Oh man, I have been on such a curious search for LSE info, and this response just provides that on a platter. Thank you man! I sort of lit up when I saw you had 5 examples of LSEs.
Also I noticed your sister and mom are both LSEs so I think it's safe to assume you know quite a bit about female LSEs in particular, so you seem like a good source of female LSE knowledge there lol.


Thank you for the encouragement to pursue her, there is something inside me that is excited about that, to go for what I want and being told to do just that is really affirming. I was also determined to do better and find an available LSE girl.


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1. My LSE sister. She had a childhood crush on my IEI buddy, and when he dropped out of college and was living in his parent's basement, she went over and proposed to him. He refused. She gave him one month to think about it, and told him after that, she'd never ask him again. On day 25 he rode his bike over to my parent's house and agreed to marry her. They have been pretty miserable ever since.
Moral of the story: LSE's might know what they want, but often don't know what's good for them.
Your sister proposed to a man, wow, did she get on a knee or what? lol that sounds insane lol. I imagine a girl would find that humiliating if the man declined but she just hung in there, wow lol.


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2. My millionaire LSE buddy. In HS, he was struggling but had never gone on a date. He double dated once with a friend of his, his date was an EII, she chose him and that was the end of his freedom. He turned his life around and is now very wealthy.
Moral: Duals are very good for you.
This sounds like the dream man.

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3. My LII sister married an LSE guy. He came into her store one day with a buddy and they were dancing to the Muzak, and she mistook him for an ESE and went after him big time. He was already married with kids, but the marriage was unhappy. He decided to divorce his wife and marry my sister, and they have a mixed happy/frustrating marriage now. But he (the LSE) is faithful and is determined to make it work.
Moral: LSE's prefer sex with Infantiles. No question. They are perfectly capable of choosing the wrong Infantile.
This infantile thing is so damn embarrassing, mostly because it is true, aw geez.

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4. My LSE mother married my SLI father in college. He was in law school, she was an immigrant's daughter. They went on a bus outing and she lit a cigarette, and he said "What? You smoke?" and she said "Yes, and I drink, too!" It evidently impressed him, since he was looking for a strong woman. I asked my father why he married my mother, and he said, "She made me get married." I overheard my parents talking once about an incident that happened before they were married, where a guy my mother knew told her at a party that he was going to steal her away from my father, and she just laughed at him. Their marriage has endured, but they aren't exactly as happy with each other as they could be.
Moral: An LSE can think she knows what she wants, but she's capable of choosing non-optimum solutions.
That laugh, that whole situation where she laughed as a matter of fact, sounds very LSE lol I can picture the laugh and everything.


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5. An LSE guy I work with. He's married, but not to his dual. Instead, there is a female EII (CFO) whose office is next to his and who is presently going through a divorce. Sometimes, she goes into his office to talk to him. I've overheard them (the offices are not soundproof) and she is either hunting him or doing experiments, I can't tell. They normally get along fantastically, but when she is in "why don't you call me?" mode, he suddenly remembers he has to call his wife. She obviously has the native levers which operate him. But the guy is totally faithful. Or committed to his plan. Lol.
Moral: If you wait too long to dualize, you might lose your chance.
So this is the guy you mentioned who all of the sudden has to call his wife, that is the funniest thing in the world LOL. straight out of a movie lol. I can just picture the adjusting or the neck tie before the call is made, trying to keep one's composure lol. This sounds like the sort of thing F types live for lol. Having touched someone in the soft spot, and now they don't know what to do with it. Poor guy lol.


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I think LSE's have the same problem that I have, which is low Fi. We don't know very well how we feel about things. We have a plan, and we'll be damned sure we are going to carry out that plan, come hell or high water. Even when the plan is a really bad plan.
See, I feel like this was something I always knew in the back of my head, seeing someone so gung-ho for their plan but not always seeing the plan as failing or not working. My LSE pastor is running and dieing church, and as sad as it is to see the church dieing, it's even sadder to see how much he is dedicated he is to something that might be slowly dieing, all I see is a man barely hanging on now with that E3 smile on his face always saying "It's possible all we need is a good attitude". This is probably a Polr Ni issue though.


So yea, I see the reoccuring theme here. LSEs are capable of making bad relationship decisions and committing to them. Not sure if this particular girl has made a bad decision, she has posted on social media how much she likes her current BF, though I do not think he is a dual, maybe an IEE, he appears extraverted. But yea, I want to give into my desire to pursue her, because honestly there was something very natural and just easy there, something very effortless, and that almost never happens with most women for me personally so it's a bit of a shocker.

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I recommend that you go for her. Let her know that you really, really like her. Don't say you are going to steal her away; she will think you are an idiot. Don't say you want to marry her, she will think you are ill-considered. Talk about your family and the one you hope to have some day. Tell her you are iron-clad faithful. Tell her how much you respect her, and don't dress like a bum. Tell her how great she is. Tell her you really like spending time with her, and you hope to find someone like her to marry someday, and you are really unhappy now. Ask her advice, tell her you don't know what to do. She will focus on your unhappiness and will try to do something to make you feel better. Eventually, she might come to see you as a better partner than her present BF, but making that transition in her mind might be difficult. You will have to always look respectable, like someone she can show off in church. She's not running on feels, she's running on logic and is following her plan for her life, which is probably not a very good plan, but it's her plan. You need to hang around her until she sees your merits and you become her new plan. Do it every day.

Best of luck to you.
Lol, funny because I'm trying to see if she's someone I can show off in church. Some of these things though might require a great deal of comfort to express not gonna as I do not want to sound like I am kissing up to her as it might frame the interaction into something like she's more valuable than me, you need me, therefore she could leave at any moment and lose nothing, while I lose everything. Do you think that would come off as kissing up to her instead of well welcomed? But I think asking her advice is probably a very easy route to interact and get closer to LSEs so I'll definitely take that approach. If I got closer to her and still wasn't in a relationship I think talking about who I would want to be with and marry someday would come more naturally. I have taken the route of trying to ask her questions about herself and it has not worked lol. Asking her advice and talking about the qualities I want in a woman that also line up with her qualities sounds better than what I have been doing. iSo that's how she sees things regarding her plan and how she would have to see me as part of her plan, that makes sense, thanks for that insight.