Quote Originally Posted by empineer View Post
I think the part with asking for advice and not taking the advice into account (or at least not letting it seem that you did) is more driving an SEI mad than an EII. An EII would like to know that the person "knows" how much EII would be willing to sacrifice for the person they are talking with. Since EII is almost all the time running such scenarios of (what can I do about this or that person in their lives or relationships to make it better) in their mind, the background energy it takes from them is sometimes really huge but incalculable of course. Therefore, what would make us feel appreciated is hearing the partner in conversation "express that they know it". It is important for us to hear whether or not it is unique or helpful the way we try to help in critical situations. For example most of the time when people fall in one-sided love or are thirstily looking for a new partner but cannot find any matching, EII is the one to (even unconsciously) come to and there is every single time thousands of different scenarios running actively behind an EII's mind to see how they can help. I have received appreciations though for what I tried, from LIE, SEI, SEE or sometimes even SLE (how great is that?). I think EII should also try to make clear what they expect. I learned it the hard way though
I have seen and experienced the bold
and in line with David's post - - - there is a lot of work that EIIs do unseen and i think it comes down to accepting and understanding they are constant crafters of their interests and their relationships

I think that's an important thing to understand about them - ideally the scrutiny and discrimination are valued ; and even if not 'agreed with' in terms of conclusion disrespecting that effort is generally a good way to Not Appreciate EIIs


RElated to the last thing in this quote above
It's very good practice for EIIs to get used to saying what they want or expect from people because if they do all of the work internally and only ever show people the results -much like David - they might not ever realize it -- and even then they might not have the compassion and desire to understand that David exhibited

*lessons on delta NFs taking care of themselves and representing their interests etc etc *