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    Default There is a higher order to socionics or personality

    And it's genetic, I see it in families, too bad we have no means to theorize about it

    There's purpose to life... But what is it is the question

    I have a twin flame (whether or not that really exists), same name same type her family is identical in type to mine

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    I do agree that genetics/heritage plays a large role in personality/type, and VI patterns would differently seem to support that. I do think it foolish to think that type is completely random and is not influenced by survival of the fittest on people who lived generations in a certain kind of environment. For example a person who's heritage traces back to generations of European farmers and peasants might tend to be more stable and complacent then someone who's heritage traces back to African tribes that dealt with constant war and natural dangers.

    I really think someone should begin a massive research effort on VI and examination of race/genetic's influence over personality. Current typology is really only scratching the surface to what I believe could be discovered.

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    What isbeing implied by higher order? Im finding it too vague to reply to with any kind of confidence.
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    There is an inherent pattern that exists within socionics, there is intelligence to it, therefore some type of purpose. For it to exist in the first place, a theory of some sort must precede it; the who, what, and why of personality. You can type infants for instance, what is the thing that determines their type in the first place. I can see it in families, its not a coincidence that a person comes into the world one type and not the other. There's an order to it.

    For example, and this may not be a very good one, but when Donald Trump said he would run for president, and I saw all the other candidates I knew he would be president. The same with Obama. You can look at all the other presidents and can find a pattern for what or who is needed for that era and it repeats and/or reorganizes itself.
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    Calling something "genetic" is pretty meaningless unless you have identified the actual genes involved, or have some lead on the genes involved.. you can reduce just about anything to genetics on some level. I could probably argue that my being here on this forum is genetic.

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    I can listen to that. It sounds goofy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazedrat1776 View Post
    Calling something "genetic" is pretty meaningless unless you have identified the actual genes involved, or have some lead on the genes involved.. you can reduce just about anything to genetics on some level. I could probably argue that my being here on this forum is genetic.
    There's going to be an average for whatever group you look at, genetics or otherwise.

    Slap a bell curve on it. Then walk away.

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