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    My Typing (if socionics is even a real thing)


    Hi guys, I'm Number 9 large (props if you get the reference lol), and I stumbled on this questionnaire, which I believe is used to type people? I identify a lot with LII (INTj), ILI (INTp) and recently, LIE (ENTj). I've also believed I once was the mbti INFP, socionics ESTp, ESTj, ISTj and ENTp.

    According to my last test on sociotype.com/test I value Ti, Te, Ni, Ne, have moderate Se and Si, and very low Fi and Fe.
    That doesn't really type me as anything at all, so I question the validty of socionics in general.

    Out of all the functions there are 8x8= 64 combinations, not 16, and my second last test got me both INTj and INTp as equally matched, with ENTj being 98% as likely.
    On my most most recent test I got ISTp, with INTp and ENTj being 98% as likely.
    Sometimes I wonder what bullshit I'm even studying, but still this theory catches a lot of my hours of attention, because I have a feeling that we're onto something here, especially concerning visual typing and the concept of duality, which I can relate to very well, because I tend to fall for what I think are SEE's (or ESE's), I'm not sure about that one.

    Anyway here are the questions. Let me know what you think of me and my ideas, mostly. Brutal honesty, please.

    What is beauty? What is love?

    True love doesn't exist. It's just a concept made up by human beings to give meaning to the feeling they feel when they are physically attracted to someone. Beauty equals physical attraction, or appreciation of an objects looks.


    What are your most important values?


    I understand that life is inherently meaningless, therefore my values are simply relative to what I think is best. This means that in practical day to day matters, I tend to speak well of a 'live and let live' attitude. I understand that we are all in the same boat of useless existence, this is really the only thing that we have in common with all living beings, and we acknowledge it by respecting one another.

    So in short, respect, treat others the way you want to be treated, and live and let live. On the other hand, I completely understand the law of the jungle and accept it as a natural state of affairs, and it seems to be a hidden human agenda aswel. In the end we are all selfish, we only help others to increase gain for ourselves.

    Do you have any sort of spiritual/religious beliefs, and why do you hold (or don't) those beliefs in the first place?


    I think I identify as a nihilist, as you may have noticed
    Therefore I believe life is inherently meaningless. Our lives are not any more meaningful than that of bacteria, or flies that live for a day.

    We come here, reproduce and die, that's basically the cycle of life. Meaning, as we know it, is absent, and any meaning you give to this life is equally meaningless and mundane, something to pass your time on earth by.

    Opinion on war and militaries? What is power to you?


    I despise war, as I think we can get a lot more profit from working together as a unified planet. I think war is stupid, serving selfish and corrupted power games, driven by fear and greed. It's the individuals and nations that think they are a unity that are the problem. In reality we are all in the same boat, and can accomplish brotherhood from that fact alone, but people are too stupid to see it.

    What have you had long conversations about? What are your interests? Why?

    Conversations: The meaning of life, religion, philosophy, also socionics, psychology in general, love, finding your partner.


    Interested in health/medicine as a conversation topic? Are you focused on your body?


    Actually I am working out for 2 years now, to attract girls. I like to discuss training programs and the best and fastest way to get ripped.

    What do you think of daily chores?

    Boring, mundane, try not to focus on them, procrastinate untill I get into problems and can't ignore them anymore.

    Books or films you liked? Recently read/watched or otherwise. Examples welcome.

    The Gladiator, Harry Potter in my teenage years. Also liked the Revenant.


    What has made you cry? What has made you smile? Why?


    Not being understood by others, loneliness, rejection by girls, feeling alienated and different than other people, but not in an inferior way, but more that they just don't get it, and when I try to explain myself I always end up dissapointed, not getting the well-informed responses that I long for.

    In the end I mask myself with a smile, but on the inside I know I am lonely and prone to be misunderstood, while I almost always mean well..


    Where do you feel: at one with the environment/a sense of belonging?

    I actually don't really feel a sense of belonging (see my previous response.) in my daily life.

    I identify as a nihilist though, and if I had to choose I would choose to identify with philosophers, great thinkers that were ahead of their time, living in the wrong time period.


    What have people seen as your weaknesses? What do you dislike about yourself?

    I dislike that I am different, while at the same time cherishing it.

    I would not like to be more stupid just so I can fit in, although I am interested in what it would feel like to be fitting in.

    What people see as my weakness is never ending doubts, indecision. My weakness is endless pondering over situations and usually social obligations, which I then usually, after a couple of nights bad sleep, blow off, usually regretting it later, but it's the only way to stop the never ending doubt and fear that bugs my mind at times.


    What have people seen as your strengths? What do you like about yourself?

    Actually I don't really get the impression that people like me all that much. Some people (I think?), like it when I give objective advice to them, but even that I think most people simply don't appreciate, as I don't either.

    I think what people do like about me is my sincereness and honesty. Sadly few can meet me halfway with these qualities.
    I've heard from girls that they think I'm cute, but that's not really a mental quality, more a physical one.

    I also consicously exercise bodybuilding to make up for my mental 'deficiencies' of not fitting in.


    In what areas of your life would you like help?

    Maybe someone to do all the useless daily chores that I so hate, like cleaning up my room, renewing my identification card or other useless bureaucratic procedures that in the end always get me into trouble.


    Ever feel stuck in a rut? If yes, describe the causes and your reaction to it.

    Sometimes, but at the moment I feel like I am moving somewhere useful.

    I had it last year, when I was studying psychology and philosophy in college, but actually I wanted to go to law school, because I just know I am going to be jobless and useless if I finish those two studies. I'd rather philosophise in my free time about whatever I want (rather than forced topics which I might engage in only if it suits me)

    Law school would serve me as a tool to obtain money, so I can engage my dreams of conducting a full-blown research on socionics (perhaps, this idea occurred to me yesterday, so it might change, because I am personally really sceptic of this ideology and perhaps pseudoscience, but I have a feeling that we're onto something here.

    Especially Filatova's visual identification strikes me as very very interesting and unusual, but strikingly familiar, and it would serve me really well if I could identify personal features from people by simply looking at them.

    I might write a book about that someday, if I can


    What qualities do you most like and dislike in other people? What types do you get along with?

    I actually find that I am very attracted to very spontaneous and fun-loving girls, who according to socionics, might identify as either ESE's or SEE's.

    Have always been.

    They seem to possess some fun-loving spontaneous quality that I cannot muster, and I envy them, while at the same time being attracted to them, they draw me in :-)



    How do you feel about romance/sex? What qualities do you want in a partner?

    I want her to be physically fit, to the same degree as me. If physical attraction would scale from 1-10 and I am an 8, then I would want her to be an 8 aswel, no more no less. This would prevent cheating, as we both know we can't get any better than ourselves.

    For personal qualites, see the previous question

    I like women who take the initiative, who are assertive and dominant in bed at least, this makes me feel like I'm not fucking a corpse you know? I don't like helpless women, I like strong individuals who know what they want and how they want it.
    This I truly adore.


    If you were to raise a child, what would be your main concerns, what measures would you take, and why?

    I would let the kid decide his life for himself mostly. I would let him make obvious mistakes I would see coming, because I know life is the best teacher, and I would only withhold him from her teachings if I would protect him from every harm, it would make life boring and meaningless ( which it already is, but you know what I mean.)


    A friend makes a claim that clashes with your current beliefs. What is your inward and outward reaction?

    Inward: I am willing to listen if their claim is concurrent with reason. If not, then I lable than as stupid inherently.

    Outward: Willing to listen, if their claim is irrational, I try to ask them skeptical questions of why they say that or claim that, and try to refute it with logic, if that doesn't work I simply give up and decide that that person is probably not really worth my time lol, at least for that discussion anyway.


    Describe your relationship to society. How do you see people as a whole? What do you consider a prevalent social problem? Name one.
    Prevalent social problem: Us vs Them mentality. We are all one people. We are all living beings, monkeys, horses whatever, it's all the same really, just different outtings of life. Distinctions only really exist in our minds.

    Oh and mindless adherence to football clubs, wtf is that even about, the most stupid thing.

    You could call me a critic, skeptic. Don't believe anything they say to you, unless you know it's true yourself, which you don't, so yea

    How do you choose your friends and how do you behave around them?

    I don't really choose them, they choose me, it happens naturally.

    Around my friends I like to crack rude jokes and see if they crack, if they do, then they're not worth my time. If they can retalitate with equal banter, I really appreciate that lol.

    I like to torment people a bit with words and unscrutinized logic, packed in a friendly manner.


    How do you behave around strangers?

    restrained, passive, try to light up the mood with sarcastic remarks

    If you've read through all this bullshit, congratulations. I have a couple of questions for you.

    - How would you type me?
    - Do you think socionics represents reality? Why, why not; partial reality?
    - What is the difference between ENTj-Ni and INTp-Te?

    Thanks for reading.
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    Ding ding ding


    “refute it with logic”

    ESTJ
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Ding ding ding


    “refute it with logic”

    ESTJ
    That particular quote seemed more Ti>Te valuing. I think SLE is right for him.

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    Did either of you read the whole thing or is the typing based on that one sentence? Just curious.

    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    Did either of you read the whole thing or is the typing based on that one sentence? Just curious.
    Read every word of it
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    I see integration issues here mostly. Anyway the questionnaire aside the issue seems to be about in dialogue and seeing very stark black and white boundaries in definitions.

    I think SLE might be worthy typing (maybe LSI). Maybe something around bit more logical side of management/leading could satisfy you and integrate you better.

    As in gamma well the issue is that it does not play well with the dialogue of ILI (who as in socionics might be lacking will too much for you) for your type or surrendering for now for the final victory of LIE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    Did either of you read the whole thing or is the typing based on that one sentence? Just curious.
    No, I'm just here in case of drama

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    the beginning made me laugh so much : D also LSI? hmm... nevermind, you know you

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    Damn my first post

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    This is where my great adventure began

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Ding ding ding


    “refute it with logic”

    ESTJ
    Im honored. When are we gonna make our delta children?

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    Wait where are all the other posts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    That means more milfs for me?
    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Ding ding ding


    “refute it with logic”

    ESTJ

    eheheh, it happened

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooo View Post
    eheheh, it happened
    Hey im not complainin lol

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    i bet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Im honored. When are we gonna make our delta children?
    I have my own family
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    I have my own family
    Never too much of a good thing right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Never too much of a good thing right?
    What does that even mean? That you cannot find satisfaction from your relationships?
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    What does that even mean? That you cannot find satisfaction from your relationships?
    It means that if one family is good 2 families is better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    It means that if one family is good 2 families is better
    Nah not for me.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackberry View Post
    lmao

    edit. Still going for LSI Se.
    Unlike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Nah not for me.
    Bore

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    those answers were really honest and cute. awn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackberry View Post
    those answers were really honest and cute. awn.
    Whats the point lf getting typed if u lie lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Whats the point lf getting typed if u lie lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackberry View Post
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Bore
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    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Really bore

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    Have you ever considered LSI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    Did either of you read the whole thing or is the typing based on that one sentence? Just curious.
    I didn't even read that one sentence, as per the standard of typology. Remember, an internet forum full of nobodies knows you better than you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post
    I didn't even read that one sentence, as per the standard of typology. Remember, an internet forum full of nobodies knows you better than you do.
    Ok, was just curious. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Perpetual Now View Post
    Have you ever considered LSI?
    yeah ive considered LSI but im not one

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    I think alpha extrovert 9w8, leaning with sp/sx

    ESE 9w8 sp/sx maybe but I'd strongly suggest ILE too

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeaderLightChange View Post
    I think alpha extrovert 9w8, leaning with sp/sx

    ESE 9w8 sp/sx maybe but I'd strongly suggest ILE too
    ok mate. thanks for the tip

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