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    I'm and EIE, and I have been dating my IEI boyfriend for about a year now. Our relationship is really great for the most part and we get along amazingly well. I don't think we have ever once argued, and he is very sweet and loving and expresses his love often. However, my boyfriend does goes through periods where he is really distant for a few days and doesn't reach out or even text me a good morning or anything at all. I barely heard from him yesterday, and that little talking we did do was initiated by me. Today he didn't text me at all and has been completely silent. I am very confident and secure in our relationship, but the fact that he can go an entire day (or even several) without talking to me does bother me. I don't make a big deal about it. I guess I'm wondering if this sort of thing is normal for IEIs? Or does it usually mean they are stressed or something is wrong? I'm just trying to understand, because his hot and cold behavior does confuse me. Thanks!
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    That's normal for most relationships... but yes.

    My advice is... don't try to interpret that kind of behavior as anything... because it doesn't really mean anything. That's just his energy level most likely... it goes up and down and fluctuates. Irrational types, especially the Ixxps tend to do things based on their mood and what they're feeling at the moment.

    But if it bothers you, then you can tell him that it bothers you and he will probably adjust his behavior accordingly... But I mean I don't know him or what your relationship is like, of course.

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    I can't speak for normal, but it matches my experience. Once in awhile it's because he's having a hard time and if I'm just like "hey, what's up?" he'll tell me and I know not to expect him to reach out for a bit. But usually hes just preoccupied with stuff or needs to hermit it up or something, idk. I don't like it either but it seems pretty intrinsic to who he is. Hopefully you have better luck.

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    Has he always been hot and cold like that from the very beginning? And have you ever talked with him about the fact you are bothered or worried by his behaviour? What exactly upsets you about it? And do you know what he does when he is not in contact with you? Is he busy with work/school/family/whatever?

    The fact he is sweet and affectionate when you are together makes it unlikely he is dismissively attached or has lost interest in you (this only counts if he has kept acting that way and not stopped with it recently – if he has stopped acting that way more recently, he might have lost interest). Those were the first two options that I thought of.

    But it seems as if he is possibly just a "strong introvert" who needs more time alone by himself. Maybe he is dealing with some emotional trouble right now, but doesn't want to burden you with it? It would be good if you two had a conversation about all this, just ask him if he is okay and needs any help, and that you are worried something might be wrong or troubling him. Come from a place of compassion, not contempt. It is important your voice sounds soft and understanding, and not accusatory.

    If he says nothing's wrong, tell him that his behaviour worries you and that you would appreciate it if he at least sent you a text in the mornings or at some other time to let you know he is okay. If he is not okay with that, or he does not agree to compromise on this at all, something might be up; as in, he's either emotionally unavailable (more or less) or not interested anymore or doesn't want to be "bound" by this relationship and keep exploring his options. At that point, reconsider if you think it is worth staying with him if that is his condition and mindset.

    Another question to ask yourself: Is he the monogamous type, has he had long term relationships before you in the past? If not, it could be he's going through that phase where he needs to figure out monogamy. Many guys have an exploratory period where they don't want to settle down yet. If you are his first or one of his first long-term relationships and he is younger, he might be going through that right now. Again, think about how much he is worth it to you and how much you might be able to "train him" a little bit, show him the great benefits of being monogamous, like be affectionate but also give him space, be there when he needs you, etc. He may get over that phase, and then those episodes of distancing stop more or less. But he may not even be going through that right now! So all in all, you need to get to the bottom of what exactly makes him act the way he does, and then proceed from there.
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    Hello,

    I am new here, and relatively new to socionics. I've come here from the world of mbti...

    I am IEI and am trying to think of whether i go cold like that... I genuinely need a lot of affection shown to me and a lot of constancy, and aren't the beta quadra meant to be the intenense ones?
    I am am not sure whether I do come across as distant at times to others... I think an ESFj ex dis complain of that, but I thought that was because he wanted to subjugate me to himself, so was resisting.

    I associate that sort of phasey approach to relationships with INTjs and INFjs.

    Do you strongly believe that your bf is IEI or might he at all be another type of introverted intuitive?

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    Reassure and respect him in it, and as @Singularity said, don't interpret things into it unless you really know what he's thinking. Can you genuinely talk to him about this as you do it here? Really, it would help to keep you from wondering and asking some people on the Internet. Aren't relationships meant to be like: Talking to each other > about each other? Try to understand why he does it thoroughly, try to understand why you react like this thoroughly. Only as he refuses to answer, you can be sure something's off.

    Tell him that you feel bothered by it. Do you really think you'd ask for help if it wasn't a big deal? And that's understandable, he just has to know about it.

    Maybe enneagram helps. What's his type? That can support you understanding his motivation. For instance, if he's enneagram 4 or 5, nothing of that is surprising because both have strong withdrawal mechanisms, it's normal that they need space. Or he's a phobic 6, that explains the hot and cold part - he still needs to find his trust equilibrium, that's why I think reassurance is the best first step to generally see what happens.

    Also, how introverted is he?

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    I once dated an IEI in hs who went to hermit to "study"... indefinitely ... and I never heard from him again until summer was over...
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    If he wasn't IEI it would be an easy, Oh he's cheating. But, IEIs are like that. So he could just be going through the normal IEI hot and cold thing. Or cheating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    I once dated an IEI in hs who went to hermit to "study"... indefinitely ... and I never heard from him again until summer was over...
    Hermit where exactly?

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    Honestly speaking, that sounds like he might be not that much into you. I'm not IEI but I do need a lot of space and alone time, even when in relationship with someone, but if I knew my partner needed frequent contact, and I was in love with them, I would give in. Have you told him straight out that you don't feel okay with that behavior? In any case, I would look for other signs of what his real interest is and decide what to do from there.
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    I call it IEI "flo" and only SLE can handle it properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Well, I dated a SEE who seemed to actually like that aspect about me. He felt like it made things interesting and it seemed to keep him interested throughout our relationship. He liked the hunting aspect of it. Our relationship problems actually stemmed from other things.

    I kind of wonder if it actually has something to do with the victim - aggressor dynamic. With the aggressor getting bored or restless unless there is a bit of unpredictable behavior.
    I have to say, as much as it sometimes irritates me and fuels insecurities, I'm more intrigued and simulated after three years than I usually am after six months.

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    If he has to avoid you and he seems distant when you two are together he has adapted to be disingenuous on some low level... it could be many things, either he just doesn't think he can be genuine with you due to your values / lack of values or your expectations; or maybe he hides parts of himself due to shame or depravity, or maybe it's a mix of those things... who knows. It's a very common problem, often it is rooted in moral values and moral conflicts

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    My daughter is IEI and keeps to herself ALOT. I don't see her, even living in the same house, very often. Other times though, she's out and about and fun to have around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Hermit where exactly?
    His house I guess lol
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    Wow, so many helpful replies here guys. Thank you! I ended up talking to him about this and explaining why it bothered me. He apologized and agreed with me that it wasn't considerate on his part. He gets distant/doesn't like talking/texting with people when he is depressed or having a bad day. His emotions are often all over the place, and I completely understand his need to go into hermit mode as part of his personality. Him and I deal with stress very differently, and if that's what he needs then I respect that. I just wasn't okay with him not saying a word to me during these periods, because it worries me. Him and I agreed that when he needs to hermit, that he will give me a heads-up and let me know that he's having a bad day and won't really feel up to talking. He is generally very caring and understanding of my needs, and when I confront him or tell him about what's bothering me, he is always quick to admit his wrong. I really do appreciate and love this aspect about him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starfall View Post
    Well, I dated a SEE who seemed to actually like that aspect about me. He felt like it made things interesting and it seemed to keep him interested throughout our relationship. He liked the hunting aspect of it. Our relationship problems actually stemmed from other things.

    I kind of wonder if it actually has something to do with the victim - aggressor dynamic. With the aggressor getting bored or restless unless there is a bit of unpredictable behavior.
    SLE also have their own "flo" - which creates a lot of tension between the two as IEI flo starts to fight to assert his/her own rights to their own flo. SLE have a hard time reconciling that other people have their own ideas about how they like to spend their time and that it doesn't need to always be with them. If their isn't a strong persistent insistence coming from the SLE that the IEI has to parley from, then its not a SLE but rather a SLI (similar flo as IEI).

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    Reassuring to see that apparently this is an IEI thing. Not sure that makes it easier for me personally though...*sigh*
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