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    Quote Originally Posted by lynn View Post
    maybe SEI sx/sp
    She actually VIs very IEE with her facial expressions and looks in my opinion. I would also see her as Ep temperament.





    She VIs like the girl on the left expression vibe (didn't find a better comparison pic.. the photos on 16typesinfo seemed to have expired), her vibe isn't introverted.



    She is very playful in a Ne way. Even the guy in the video calls her cheeky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmic Teapot View Post
    does she look like this person?:

    <- edit: thanks to everyone who took the time ->

    @Chae @Myst @Medusa Do you have a moment for V.I.?
    I thought about this for some time - but I feel so ridiculous for posting images of my face online. But then I saw that girl thought - whoa that me. I asked a some friends of mine if I'm hallucinating but apparently she looks exactly like me (before I lost weight )

    Please don't quote.
    I remember when you posted pics of you.. I could see SLI in you. And maybe even the girl. It is weird but I know a guy from school who was SLI and who had quite a few siblings who also were SLIs.. even though they obviously were related they had very specific features like in the Filatova portraits.. where I noticed many SLIs had these faces with eyes, which stood a bit further apart (not meant in a rude way) and you definitely VI like that a bit. I also had one SLI girl in my 7th grade class.. she also had these eyes. Here some of the Filatova portraits with these features:



    First row: guy on the far right and second girl from the right (basically the two people at the right side of the first row).
    Second row: girl on the left and second guy from the right.
    Third row: guy on the left and again second guy from the right.

    I noticed quite a few SLIs I met throughout life had these far apart-eyes and you had it a bit too.. just smaller eyes.

    Someone posted a pic of Maria Konnikova in the "physical features you find attractive"-thread, who VIs veeery much SLI:

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    Jürgen Klopp - LSI

    https://youtu.be/l6WncL6XN40

    Dat Ne-Polr

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    Elyas M'Barek - SLE
    Günther Jauch - SEI
    Mario Barth - ESE
    Stefan Raab - LSI?

    Any opinions on Joko and Klaas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuunky View Post
    Elyas M'Barek - SLE
    Günther Jauch - SEI
    Mario Barth - ESE

    Any opinions on Joko and Klaas?
    Thanks for participating! Jauch, not a logical type? Joko & Klaas were typed as Beta earlier in the thread, just like Palina. Jürgen Klopp's forum consensus is ILE so far, needs more arguments to flip that around.

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    Well actually I take that back. I see more LII than SEI for Jauch. Seems definetly Ne/Si valuing and introverted.. more alpha than delta @Chae

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    And for Jürgen Klopp i see definetly a person with weak but valued Fe and strong Se. He definetly seems to like a merry atmosphere and seems very passionate beta-like during the games.. He also comes off as a person who generally doesnt like if someone has a different opinion than he does which suggest Ne polr for me..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuunky View Post
    Well actually I take that back. I see more LII than SEI for Jauch. Seems definetly Ne/Si valuing and introverted.. more alpha than delta @Chae
    Yes LII is better!
    Jürgen Klopp: merriness also applies to ILE, even more so since their HA is 2D and not 1D. He could overdo it instead of being merely suggested like say Jogi Löw (LII). The obstinacy could be a point for PoLR yes, his viewpoint, his law (). Although this can apply to other logical types as well Let's check out an interview.


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    @MaviTilki Thank you

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    I really cant tell klopps type based on this video @Chae

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuunky View Post
    I really cant tell klopps type based on this video @Chae
    Ok no problem though Could you find one where it's clear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    Actually she always, always came across as a "typical" LSI-Se woman to me. She seems to be so forward, self assured and slightly reckless. Most IEIs have a slightly soft and intellectual vibe.
    That would still be compatible with her being beta-ish and IEIs being attracted to her. (I also find her attractive, but I instinctively feel she'd find me boring, and I'd find her too wild and forward)
    I thought about it for a while and if Sibel isn't IEI then she might actually be LSI! Might also be her being a Beta that I feel so similar to her and the way she looks/ acts.
    Not totally sure, but yeah.. could also be an option, she is a Beta introvert for sure, hehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Xavier Naidoo ILI-Ni 1w2 SP/SX

    Videos portray a strong sense of purpose. Capitalism and work is always a topic. Strong critic, history connoisseur, spiritual approach. Categories. Strong moral critique of the system through facts. Known for social blunders through said critique. Not fond of happy tunes, preaches and predicts instead. States the case, no sugarcoating. Most prevalent is his complaint about inevitability. Lawful accuser.



    I think he is an IEI. His lyrics have a strong Ni vibe. Also very expressive whis is an Fe thing. Here is an interview where he also makes alot of Ni-Fe statements. https://youtu.be/9UoXMhrYcL8

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    I am wondering if any of you German speaking people have an opinion on Hitlers type. He has been typed EIE in this forum. But I am starting to doubt that. Maybe he was LIE.

    I have watched videos of his bombastic speeches, but my German is a little rusty so not so easy to follow him.

    It is hard to think of a successful warlord and politician as EIE. How many successful EIE dictators are there? Not many. However LIE is common in politics and war.

    I do think he was an Ni type though. Ni in creative position makes sense I think.

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    Sendung mit der Maus: very LSE type of show on German television.

    Focus on educating children showing how things are made, mixed with quirky stories that show unusual ways to solve problems. Topics are industry, nature, jobs, creativity, and health. Different languages and professions are introduced and explained. The hosts often do some DIY, travels, or visit people to know what they do for a living.






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    Bushido - LSI


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuunky View Post
    I think he is an IEI. His lyrics have a strong Ni vibe. Also very expressive whis is an Fe thing. Here is an interview where he also makes alot of Ni-Fe statements. https://youtu.be/9UoXMhrYcL8
    yeah, IEI makes sense for Xavier Naidoo..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    I am wondering if any of you German speaking people have an opinion on Hitlers type
    he was born in Austria-Hungary, not Germany

    > Maybe he was LIE.

    Nein.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    he was born in Austria-Hungary, not Germany
    Doesn't matter. I was asking the German speaking people, because they understand German.

    Nein
    And what do you think he was?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    I was asking the German speaking people, because they understand German.
    To understand Hitlers type does not need to have German as native language and even to know Germany exists at all.
    Also all Russians are German speaking, as almost everyone here knows the phrases: "Hände hoch" and "Hitler kaputt". And we are kind of experts in what are Hitler, fascizm and how to mess with them. So I fit to your criterions better than you thought. We also still remember a little of French, Polish, Japanese, Mongolian, ... but that are other stories.

    So, you may think that Hitler is clear ENFJ without doubts. You just will not find better expert about him here.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Horst Lichter: IEE




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    The movie coming up in German cinemas "Jugend ohne Gott" (Youth without God) strikes me as highly Beta ST. The plot is similar to the Hunger Games.



    The kew words flashing up at the end: "Without law... without trust... without hope... without shelter"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    The movie coming up in German cinemas "Jugend ohne Gott" (Youth without God) strikes me as highly Beta ST. The plot is similar to the Hunger Games.



    The kew words flashing up at the end: "Without law... without trust... without hope... without shelter"
    Lol I am so behind with the new movies coming out, haha. This looks actually somewhat interesting.. I find most German stuff to be a bit idk.. not so good lol. The French are usually much better at making movies.. it also turns me off when Germans try the overdramatic American way in their movies and it somehow never feels authentic and German voices always make me not take the movies seriously most of the time.

    But yeah I could see how Betas would hate a perfectly regulated world.. idk I feel they are somehow made for chaos and fight, lol.

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    Susan Hoecke - IEI


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    Jannis Niewöhner - mb ISTJ
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    The movie coming up in German cinemas "Jugend ohne Gott" (Youth without God) strikes me as highly Beta ST. The plot is similar to the Hunger Games.
    interesting.. is that actually a sci-fi adaption of the novel "Jugend ohne Gott" ? now i wonder whether they actually kept/transformed storylines or characters from the novel (which i haven't read yet) or whether the film just borrows some themes/motifs & obviously the title.

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    Jan Ammann – EIE





    New Youtube [x] Get Typed! [x]
    Celebs [x] Theory [x] Tumblr [x]

    *********** 21-04-19:
    "Looks like a mystic that just arrived to battle and staring out at the battle, ready to unleash"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    I am wondering if any of you German speaking people have an opinion on Hitlers type. He has been typed EIE in this forum. But I am starting to doubt that. Maybe he was LIE.

    I have watched videos of his bombastic speeches, but my German is a little rusty so not so easy to follow him.

    It is hard to think of a successful warlord and politician as EIE. How many successful EIE dictators are there? Not many. However LIE is common in politics and war.

    I do think he was an Ni type though. Ni in creative position makes sense I think.

    Vielen Dank!
    I think he is EIE.

    His speeches are stereotypical - (Gulenko).
    New Youtube [x] Get Typed! [x]
    Celebs [x] Theory [x] Tumblr [x]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    I am wondering if any of you German speaking people have an opinion on Hitlers type. He has been typed EIE in this forum. But I am starting to doubt that. Maybe he was LIE.
    My opinion is: He extraverted value judgements – Extraverted Feeling

    I can't see Hitler as LIE. He was quite bad at organizing stuff / goods, but really skilled at influencing people.
    I tend to say Goebels – minister of propaganda – was probably EIE too.

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    Hello Chae!
    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    More German people to type:

    - Barbara Schöneberger — IEE
    - Lena Meyer-Landrut (Ep) – IEE fits her
    - Oliver Pocher ( PoLR I guess) – ILE-Ne
    - Michelle Hunziker – ESE
    I add:
    - Anke Engelke – IEE
    - Götz Alsmann – IEE
    - Hella von Sinnen – IEE, doesn't seem like one, but she has Enneagram 4 heart type and 8 gut type, probably 7 head type.
    - Bernhard Hoëcker - ILE
    Last edited by WinnieW; 09-20-2017 at 11:48 PM.

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    Popular scientists in Germany:

    Prof. Harald Lesch (german astronomer and philosopher) – ILE?
    He takes lectures for his students with very minimal preparation, thinks while he talks, likes teaching and working with students,
    has multiple interests, wrote a awarded PhD thesis about plasma physics




    Vince Ebert – ILE (at least the stage performance)



    A video in english language with strong german dialect.


    Josef M. Gaßner



    A very friendly NT type?
    Last edited by WinnieW; 09-20-2017 at 11:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    Vince Ebert – ILE (at least the stage performance)



    A video in english language with strong german dialect.
    This guy is like a carbon copy of Paul Panzer (German comedian) who's probably ILE as well.




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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    Hello Chae!

    I add:
    - Anke Engelke – IEE
    - Götz Alsmann – IEE
    - Hella von Sinnen – IEE, doesn't seem like one, but she has Enneagram 4 heart type and 8 gut type, probably 7 head type.
    - Bernhard Hoëcker - ILE
    Yes those are good ideas!

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    Typing Hitler is old hat, EIE 6w5 SX/SO. I'd rather be interested in the typings of the RAF members, Baader/Meinhof/Enslin at least.


    Ulrike Meinhof: LSI?



    Andreas Baader: EIE/LIE?



    Gudrun Enslin: also Beta or Gamma


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Typing Hitler is old hat, EIE 6w5 SX/SO. I'd rather be interested in the typings of the RAF members, Baader/Meinhof/Enslin at least. [/video]
    There's different opinions whether Hitler was e6 or e1 with good arguments on both sides. EIE definitely makes sense with his speaches, but then the enneagram throws me off...I've never really met an EIE 6w5 I have however "met" an EIE E1 (which is also not a common combo) - he's a cardinal of Roman Church in my country, and is a Satanic villain with perfect poise and passionate (nazi) speaches - a perfect example of machiavellian brainwasher : ). He does have more of a poised haughty anger to himself though (similar to 3w4), compared to loose-cannon paranoid anger of Hiter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    There's different opinions whether Hitler was e6 or e1 with good arguments on both sides. EIE definitely makes sense with his speaches, but then the enneagram throws me off...I've never really met an EIE 6w5 I have however "met" an EIE E1 (which is also not a common combo) - he's a cardinal of Roman Church in my country, and is a Satanic villain with perfect poise and passionate (nazi) speaches - a perfect example of machiavellian brainwasher : ). He does have more of a poised haughty anger to himself though (similar to 3w4), compared to loose-cannon paranoid anger of Hiter.
    You delivered the explanation yourself! Hitler's paranoia and emotionality tuned toward passion - fueling the fears of the people, projecting - speaks of the insecure expression of 6 (with an undertone of 4 also!). It combines seamlessly with EIE.



    His entire biography tells a tale of a quest toward security (his Aryan family theory, circle of Nazis including the SS, the Hitler Youth program + anti-Semitism were extreme expressions of that) since his war injuries, loss of his mother, and failed career in Vienna due to rejection. He wrote "Mein Kampf" specifically to target the `traitors´ of his Coup D'Etat while creating an image of scapegoats, the Jews, who he painted as parasitic world conspirators trying to take over so Germany would be in danger. For instance, because they would spread STDs or threatened the economy. He dedicated the book to his "blood witnesses" i.e. co-propagandists as a move of loyalty. He demanded Austria's collaboration with him, requesting territory for "his" German people, who he expertly established contact with to showcase his dedication, taking the plane to visit the entire country to establish bonds. "Mein Kampf" was first intended to be called "Against Lies, ignorance, and cowardice" - alarm bells!! That is 6. There's no motivation to be right or perfect except his idea of a racial ideal. Even in his last hours it is reported that he felt "betrayed" by the Reich in a panicking meltdown.

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    Hello Chae
    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    Yes those are good ideas!
    Thank you!

    More popular german IEE:
    - Ralf Schmitz
    - Bastian Pastewka
    - Ina Müller
    - Michl Müller

    Ralf Schmitz and Bastian Pastewka are sooooo IEE-Ne Enneagram type 7

    I like to add:
    Ranga Yogeshwar - LII
    Joachim Bublath - LII (was host of science TV shows)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chae View Post
    You delivered the explanation yourself! Hitler's paranoia and emotionality tuned toward passion - fueling the fears of the people, projecting - speaks of the insecure expression of 6 (with an undertone of 4 also!). It combines seamlessly with EIE.

    His entire biography tells a tale of a quest toward security (his Aryan ideology, circle of Nazis including the SS, the Hitler Youth program + anti-Semitism were extreme expressions of that) since his war injuries, loss of his mother, and failed career in Vienna due to rejection. He wrote "Mein Kampf" specifically to target the `traitors´ of his Coup D'Etat while creating an image of scapegoats, the Jews, who he painted as parasitic world conspirators trying to take over so Germany would be in danger. For instance, because they would spread STDs or threatened the economy. He dedicated the book to his "blood witnesses" i.e. co-propagandists as a move of loyalty. He demanded Austria's collaboration with him, requesting territory for "his" German people, who he expertly established contact with to showcase his dedication, taking the plane to visit the entire country to establish bonds. "Mein Kampf" was first intended to be called "Against Lies, ignorance, and cowardice" - alarm bells!! That is 6. There's no motivation to be right or perfect. Even in his last hours it is reported that he felt "betrayed" by the Reich in a panicking meltdown.
    Yeah, I agree e6 seems like an obvious choice for him. I was very suprised when I read opinions on him being e1 and which aren't rare either. What I don't agree with is that 6w5 goes seamlessly with FeNi - 6 with 5 wing is introverted combination and it's usually Ne polr crazy territory : ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    Hello Chae

    Thank you!

    More popular german IEE:
    - Ralf Schmitz
    - Bastian Pastewka
    - Ina Müller
    - Michl Müller

    Ralf Schmitz and Bastian Pastewka are sooooo IEE-Ne Enneagram type 7

    I like to add:
    Ranga Yogeshwar - LII
    Joachim Bublath - LII (was host of science TV shows)
    Pretty good, Schmitz might be ESE as an alternative but IEE is already close I think. What do you think about Nena and Nina Hagen?




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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    Yeah, I agree e6 seems like an obvious choice for him. I was very suprised when I read opinions on him being e1 and which aren't rare either. What I don't agree with is that 6w5 goes seamlessly with FeNi - 6 with 5 wing is introverted combination and it's usually Ne polr crazy territory : ).
    It IS an unexpected combination, in a way that Hitler's intellectualism and reclusion aligns more with 5 and not the usual 7-wing for EIE 6. Hence I also opt for the subtype, it fits better.

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