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    Question Can you ever have enough of your primary instinct?

    I've recently been fixated on typical so/sx problems. However, I seem to come across money easily, am in good health, have plenty of time/resources for my interests/hobbies, etc., so I thought, "If only I was self-preservation first! Then I would be satisfied." But then I realized, maybe that wouldn't be the case. Maybe if I was sp first, I would have higher standards for my sp wants/needs, and whenever I secured a current sp want/need, I would just elevate my sp standards. That certainly seems to be the case with my so standards. Five years ago, I longingly dreamed of a certain job that I now scorn and consider my back-up plan. In my first year of grad school, all I wanted was to find a good group of friends, which I did, but shortly after, I began to really want a boyfriend. Do I really need a perfect boyfriend or to be at the absolute top of my career to be happy? Would they even make me happy, or would I just find more so stuff to want after I got them?

    So my question for you is: can you ever be satisfied with what you have in your primary instinct? Are you currently satisfied with it? What do you imagine it would take for you to be satisfied with it? Have you noticed changes over time in what you think satisfaction would require; do these changes correspond to having achieved previous criteria for satisfaction?

    (Outside of adopting a Buddhist mindset and shedding desire as a whole.)

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    That´s just your personality has little to do with enneatype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Economist View Post
    So my question for you is: can you ever be satisfied with what you have in your primary instinct? Are you currently satisfied with it? What do you imagine it would take for you to be satisfied with it? Have you noticed changes over time in what you think satisfaction would require; do these changes correspond to having achieved previous criteria for satisfaction?

    (Outside of adopting a Buddhist mindset and shedding desire as a whole.)
    For me, it's technically impossible. It can always get more intense, more extreme, SX virtually has no limits to me. What it takes for me to be satisfied is all centered around SP, the change being that I thought otherwise in the past ("better, faster, stronger" Kanye style, complete fallacy). Those previous criteria: cast away - SX has the advantage that it can easily shed its shell.

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    I think whether or not anyone can be truly satisfied is a philosophical question without a clear answer. I feel like its mostly a matter of time such that people tend to experience moments of satisfaction but complete and abiding contentment would look really weird. we'd like to think it looks like happiness but it would probably look more like total non motivation. even spiritually enlightened beings feel the urge to "stay behind" and help others such that while they may have achieved some form of personal satisfaction they could be said to be unsatisfied until everyone, or at least they're trying their best to help everyone, make it: "injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere", etc etc. there's also stuff like heroin but I don't think anyone would consider a lifelong (for however long such a life lasts) satisfaction, and there's always the need for more. I'm inclined to think satisfaction as a concept wouldn't exist if it could be permanently achieved, rather it is defined as ephemeral in tension with states of desire and suffering, which constitute human existence

    the idea of heaven is a sort of logico-syntactical extension of "satisfaction" into the "infinite", but it seems to be a kind of purely abstract extension of actual states into the unreal (i.e.: conceptual or, more pejoratively, "imaginary")

    thus I'm inclined to say no, but it has little to do with the enneagram and more to do with the irreducible structure of constituent human experience at the broadest levels

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    Occasionally I am. But then I get insecure and think my partner will leave me, or wish that they were as obsessed with me as I am with them. It comes in waves like everything else in life. =)
    Because of the intense mood swings I have when im ina relationship (i almost fucking died last year) I like being single atm.
    Last edited by maniac; 03-21-2017 at 07:09 AM.

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