that SLE 783 aesthetic
Weirdly easy to identify enneagram in that musical. Their depiction of Burr is a classic 395, Eliza's a 9 with a 2 fix, etc.
that SLE 783 aesthetic
Weirdly easy to identify enneagram in that musical. Their depiction of Burr is a classic 395, Eliza's a 9 with a 2 fix, etc.
Nicki:
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Triple assertive handling is sometimes difficult since all types involved here are "emotionally constipated" in their own way.
---> 3 pushes feelings away to get everything done
---> 8 pushes feelings away to be invulnerable, prefers to channel mostly anger but not what they truly experience
---> 7 - intricate case. Pushes feelings away when they are negative - and positive ones don't stay for long either because of new wanted stimuli.
Wings are the best help here. 3's wings are both really in touch with their sentiments especially, it's good to go from a 3 perspective when issues arise. As we talk about emotion either way, the heart center has to be the one doing the work. 8 does well winging to 9, 7 using 6's anxiety-action pattern can also circumvent trouble even if it means dipping into the fear component that way.
The desintegrated triple assertive is a 951 - two gut fixes, two reclusive types. A crass difference to their usual self, which is immobile due to a stress-fleeing 9, a mentally unaccessible 5, and a critical 1.
I found a video that actually demonstrates the difference. The screeching, hungry "monster" vs the inner passive voice they want to silence.
Todrick Hall dropped some sassy shit just today, this has to be here. Volume UP
Core 7:
Someone wrote a song about us.
Mamrie Hart on how to deal with sexism.
Paybackkkk for the naughty boyz
387, SLE version:
Oddly enough, Madonna uses typical "mover shaker" imagery in the lyrics including fire, scream/shout, being the baddest, triggers for something.
If popularity determined relevancy, we'd have little need to preserve history at all.Originally Posted by Ghost
Just as an aside, I don't see how any of what you described needs to be strictly spiritual. It sounds more psychological imo. Not that I necessarily do or don't agree.
Do you really know of Mozart though? If I talked to you on the street right now, where you can't use Google, and said "list 5 works by Mozart" would you be able to do it? Or is he just a name to you? Pretty much everyone actually into classical music knows Clara Schumann. Jack the Ripper is definitely just a name, since literally no one knows who that was.
If women naturally rule the world with sex, bend all the men of this forum to your will right now. Do it.
That gif types as 873.
Triple assertives are the mayhem creators of the enneagram. I've had this for 20 years myself - only my 3 image "facade" protects me and my environment from exploding. When I don't keep tight control over what I'm doing, the slightest bad move riles people up and sparks chaos. I bring out the worst in people if I don't watch out, and I can embody the worst myself. I was immensely hated at school because I accumulated 3 selfish things people despise:
- a god complex aka trying so hard everyone falls behind
- hedonistic avoidance (which makes others insecure about what's going on) plus
- a heavy snark of controlfreakism.
I would not want to blend in or participate in peer activity, either. So that's how people never got to know me fully, didn't know what I was up to - bad thing when your first impression is "antisocial ego deity". There weren't many who dared to read between the lines. That I would be selfish to get by and get the love my parents would deny me when not performing well. Can't blame them, my attitude was massive, I'm still bitter like that. If you could measure "protective" arrogance in bricks, I'd be the great wall of ChinaTry to invade, I'm hard candy for miles and miles on the inside to rot your pretty teeth away <3 Many just befriended me so I would not be a threat, while others just poked fun at me because I tried so hard, and again others would maintain their distance. I can really split people like this and feel weird for being lowkey proud of it. Mover Shaker disadvantages I guess, let me indulge in that self-pitying for a sec before putting on my mask again.
･ﾟ*✧ 𝓘 𝓌𝒾𝓁𝓁 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒶𝒸𝒸𝑒𝓅𝓉 𝒶 𝓁𝒾𝒻𝑒 𝓘 𝒹𝑜 𝓃𝑜𝓉 𝒹𝑒𝓈𝑒𝓇𝓋𝑒 ✧*:･ﾟ
@handjob Owwhh yesss slay me Donna
I spy a nip slip there. #iconic
Yeah yeah Kanye is more of a 6 fix but this still all needs to be here
Yaaaassss he's an ANIMAL on that track!!AHHHHH
Triple assertive summarized!
They are motivated by:
- enjoyment
- success
- control.
Triple assertives in relationships.
Generally very, very difficult. By average health level, that is. On the one hand, they want to achieve a fun bond but also want to be in charge. That usually puts the triple assertive as the dominant partner. Their drive and energy is really strong and needs to be channeled, and someone needs to bring their singlemindedness into a "WE". The moving-shaking requires someone closer to a follower rather than a leader. You can't have two stars in one household or birds of a feather...? The former is the case. We can imagine two 783s as a couple, each one of them would go their own way! They'd fall apart, compete too much, or struggle for who's the boss when 8 is emphasized.
All that egocentric forward drive is best suited with an equalizing, calming, supportive force that brings out the altruism of this tritype. Someone who is attuned to keep in the background doing the details of 7's vision, 3's goals, 8's delegations. You can see that this already aims at a work relationship. But with triple assertives it's nothing surprising, they are so outward-oriented wanting to
1) champion people
2) have fun with people
3) dominate people
that work is the realm you'll find them in, all day everyday. They can't live the chill life. So their partner has to keep up with that naturally, not in a forced way. They also shouldn't show weakness because that's when enneagram 8 attacks. So 4 has to be excluded. Instead, they have to be motivated to help (2), to achieve (3), to do the bits and pieces (1), to stay out of the limelight (5), to be guided (6), to keep the peace (9).
So my TOP 4 ranked suggestions for a triple assertive's partner are:
2,6,1 - The Supporter > 6,1,3 - The Taskmaster > 5,1,3 - The Technical Expert > 9,6,2 - The Good Samaritan.
I excluded that they both have 8 in their tritype for obvious reasons. 7 shouldn't overlap as well, two people avoiding pain and the negative won't help. 3 can overlap for exactly the work rationale. 9 may get in the way of maving shaking things but can also help to calm it, either way it's ambiguous. 261 is likely the best tritype to be with. They help and bring the element of altruistic love, they are loyally guided and tackle dangers, they sturdily work through minutiae.
A good compatible example is RDJ with Susan Downey, who's a 631. There's mutual integration help: She helps his 3 integrate 6, he helps her 1 integrate 7. Their roles are distributed clearly:
Robert is in the spotlight as the actor.
Susan is behind the scenes as the producer.
That way, collaboration and mutuality works really good. They are both equally powerful in their realm and don't cross one another. It also helps that Robert has lived through his wild days already, and Susan has a lot of experience, guaranteeing a higher degree of individual stability.
actually in relationship i am a lot milder than in a work or sports environment. that´s the place in my life where i like to feel like i can relax a bit.
Obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit
Triple assertives, especially SX-firsts, do well in pairs when their partner is lenient, making their energy go toward being productive. Otherwise, the triple assertive's tremendous power goes to waste, they move and shake where it's not necessary nor appropriate, have others resent them, and so on.
Guy Ritchie about RDJ and Susan at work:
Note also how Infantile-Caregiving plays out. Robert (IEE) like a talented but obnoxious kid, Susan (Delta ST) the parent who finds involvement in checking up/parenting.It's a real yin and yang, and it's made him a joy to work with. Robert would be a pain in the a** if he didn't have Susan to police him.
Why do you feel like you can relax? Hypothesis: because 3 can rest desintegrated at 9, and 8 goes to 5. I'm the other way around: To me, relationships are plain effort effort effort, I get even more invested and less mild because things are at stake (SX-first issue). I also think I must take responsiblity which is the 8 in me, relaxation is not allowed.
#EVILTRITYPES
(I made an e-villain thread somewhere else check it out as well)
The trinity of stereotypical malicious personas within the triple assertive context - as represented sarcastically by Spongebob. Of course, the punch line ends on 8 because they are the worst.
Gluttonous adrenaline junkie who just can't stop....
Professional deceiver, probably with a skeleton in the closet...
SADISTIC PSYCHOPATH
(obviously @handjob & me in a nutshell)
When out of control, this tritype has a bigger, better type of drive. Part of that creates what is called the "assertion", seizing what they want selfishly.
8 wants to rule more and more.
3 wants to achieve or do more and more.
7 wants to enjoy more and more.
Ep temperament --> most prone to coincide with triple assertive
SX first --> also most likely to coincide with triple assertive.
SLE SX/SO 873 is probably the epitome and most archetypal of the Mover Shaker. SEE a close second.
My top best professions for the TA tritype, sorted after fixes:
8-fix:
Politician
7-fix:
Venue Owner
3-fix:
Entertainer
Such a contradicting tritype. The energies/drives go into completely different directions.
7 is like: "Heyyyyyyy let's have fun and escape shit! Tomorrow is a good day, fellas! Partey <3 Also I have the best ideas ever."
8 is like: "Greetings, it's your boss, I run this. Give me authority and more of everything. If you hurt weak people I'll end you, all right."
3 is like "Hello I am a successful robot who feels empty and wants to look awesome in your eyes. Good, time to work harder then"
387 SX/SP
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