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    Question What do you (dis)like about your e-type?

    Give a top 5 each!

    Starting out for 3w4.

    LIKE

    1. Perseverance, I can square up and adapt, goal-oriented
    2. Not too jealous but aware of my uniqueness and the uniqueness of others. So, I'm confident in being special.
    3. Can achieve anything, I also like achievement in others
    4. I have the evil but sexy sass of Draco Malfoy (also 3w4)
    5. Whenever I feel like I can't measure up, I realize that I am just myself and don't have to be like anybody else.

    DISLIKE

    1. Excessive egocentrism, narcissism, condescencion, hostility, Kanye-ism, lonerism, vanity aka insecurity
    2. Feeling empty sometimes
    3. Dependency on outward evaluation, often
    4. What is identity
    5. Can't lose

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    About myself specifically as e9, in no particular order:

    LIKE:

    1 - ability to put things in perspective. A lot of people do things because of random shit inside their own heads, instead of doing things *at* (general) you. From this, an ability to evaluate eg: political stances wrt how they benefit a specific worldview, rather than just whining that they don't fit *my* worldview. More accurate image of the world.
    2 - ability to chill
    3 - decent (colloquial) intuition, gut instinct
    4 - decent at asking people questions about themselves, reasonably good at active listening (see #4)
    5 - Some dissolution is transcendental.

    DISLIKE:

    1 - Addictive personality, for better or for worse
    2 - Can shut people out quite efficiently, use indifference to hurt
    3 - Random anger from people is unsettling, have to work at not automatically either shouting back or folding.
    4 - Can forget to talk about myself at all (see #4)
    5 - Some dissolution is just plain weakness.

    People who 'want to be e9' because they 'are so chill and nice' annoy me. I suspect that they need to separate 'chill' from 'blank' and 'passive niceness' from 'actively decided kindness'.
    Reason is a whore.

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    As a 4w5 so/sp:

    LIKE

    1. I have very good aesthetical taste. Perfectionist.
    2. I know just about everything about personal/emotional problems. Nothing surprises me because I have felt it all.
    3. I can be very nice. I like to help others.
    4. Sublime emotions. I can experience the highest of the high emotions.
    5. I am tolerant and accepting of people who are different.

    DISLIKE

    1. Often very sad and depressed. Mood swings. Manic depression.
    2. Very low self-esteem.
    3. Too emotional, too self/image-conscious.
    4. Self-destructive, self-absorbed, complains too much.
    5. Aimless, lazy.
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    6w7

    LIKE

    1. Willing to think critically and question my own preconceptions
    2. Problem-solver
    3. Easily builds logical rationale behind opinions and actions
    4. Willing to be vulnerable and share things with people, very genuine
    5. Can see two sides of every coin

    DISLIKE

    1. Doubting my own valid opinions and relying too much on outside input
    2. Problem-finder
    3. Easily rationalizes opinions and actions
    4. Reliant on other people to make me feel self-confident, oversharing
    5. Compulsively looks for two sides of every coin

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    Like
    1. High emotional sensitivity
    2. See beauty in things others don't
    3. Honest with myself
    4. My imagination and creativity
    5. Vulnerability

    Dislikes
    1. See negativity in everything
    2. Find sadness in everything
    3. Low self esteem/shame
    4. Get attached to what hurts me
    5. Hard to live in the now and stop thinking about what has been or what could be, if only

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    6w5

    LIKE
    1. Dedication
    2. Loyalty
    3. Ability to question and challenge authority in the right situation
    4. Analytical ability
    5. I see problems that others often overlook

    DISLIKE
    1. Perpetual doubting (In enneagram I also seriously considered 5w6, 9w1, and 1w9 before finally settling on 6w5)
    2. Excessive worry over relatively insignificant things
    3. I see problems that others often overlook (can be a strength or weakness depending on how you look at it)
    4. Trust issues
    5. Overly compliant to authority at times
    LII-Ne with strong EII tendencies, 6w7-9w1-3w4 so/sp/sx, INxP



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    Quote Originally Posted by chips and underwear View Post
    6w5

    LIKE
    1. Dedication
    2. Loyalty
    3. Ability to question and challenge authority in the right situation
    4. Analytical ability
    5. I see problems that others often overlook

    DISLIKE
    1. Perpetual doubting (In enneagram I also seriously considered 5w6, 9w1, and 1w9 before finally settling on 6w5)
    2. Excessive worry over relatively insignificant things
    3. I see problems that others often overlook (can be a strength or weakness depending on how you look at it)
    4. Trust issues
    5. Overly compliant to authority at times
    Yes, this describes you Doubting is such a good point, your typing process itself already says everything. I had that as well just with the confusion of me being able to act like any type. And who is the chameleon of the enneagram? The 3. Awesome that you brought it up!

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    9w1

    Dislike:

    -Deep down I don't actually care for anything but I feel like I should act like I care. I have some patterns I fall back to and get easily addicted to things (luckily I never really tried some sort of drug or alchohol or smoking- I am painfully aware of the fact that if I do try, I most likely wouldn't be able to stop as easily as I would like to fool myself into thinking.)
    -I actually can't show it when I am really sad, in fact, whenever I roleplay with my IEI friend and there is something that makes me feel really bad, I tend to go and jump around in a cheerful manner. Which often ends up with my mother asking why I look so happy and stopping on my tracks to realize that no, I am sad and everything hurts.
    -I know how to actually start care about things but feel like ultimately it doesn't matter deep down once again, so why bother? Unless it is going to help someone else, I would procrastinate something that would help me to hell.
    -I am not as razor-sharp-focused compared to LII 5s (or ILE-Ti 5s which I assume Chae would chime in with?) and my mind tends to be a bit more hazy. I can just tune out whole world and act in autopilot if I get stressed. But at the end of the day, I need a conclusion about things so I eventually end up getting out of said haze at some point.
    -(more of w1 based but) I really can't handle it when I make a mistake- especially when it ends up with hurting any other person. It just doesn't fit my personal principle of being fair/thinking it is not my right to hurt someone with my actions just as much as they shouldn't be allowed to do same to me. I actually developed methods around actually giving my all to a project just to not feel like a huge failure and human waste at a small mistake in something I poured hours and hours on.

    Like:

    -I can get along with most people if I try. Despite not really exactly "seeing their point of view" (I can imagine how it must be for them to a certain point and feel/act like I can relate), according to people, I give this really soft and understanding air despite being distant. There is this childlike vibe that comes with high and usually-acts-sunny-despite-not-feeling-it 9ness which makes it easy for people to not feel judged. (Probably have something to do with my low as well? I hate feeling judged so I avoid making such judgement calls on people as much as possible.)
    -Which leads to them opening up somewhat easily to me due to downplaying my own strengths as well as laying out what I think/feel/experienced so far and it often ends up with them describing it as "therapeuthic". But despite that, I don't really feel a huge "connection" to most of them. I just like helping people out of principled love for humankind as a whole if I can, which is, pretty rare as well. (I wouldn't exactly go out of my way to do that but occasionally, I do...) It makes me feel like there is some meaning to doing things at times as well, perhaps.
    -Nobody really sees me as a threat or enemy. At most, they would simply ignore me or think that I am weird.
    -If I recally correctly, 9 sp tend to have some correlation with so I suppose that's another point I like? I like the comfort food&sense of stableness/security quite a lot and despite being bored when there is nothing else to think about, I naturally act in accordance get my HA (despite in a way that is perhaps not the healthiest...) and most likely to make it seem as I have it higher than I have/as if I can actually handle it. Haha not really but I don't like it when people know that I am not exactly best at that....
    -(this part is more about being a sp/so but) not having to deal with relationship bullshit and not feeling any need to be in any romantic stuff Makes life a hell lot easier. My 9w1 LII (not sure about his subtype but most likely Ne subtype) (yes, I actually showed him LII profile and asked if he identified with it as well as watch his interactions) sx/so friend had a lot of problems due to feeling need for relationships which ended badly due to not having a properly developed at the time. So yeah.





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    Like:

    1. Caring, peaceful.
    2. Able to see the big picture.
    3. Able to travel other worlds, & return the lost soul of a situation due to shamanism.

    Dislike:

    1. Not enough narcissism.
    2. Easily misunderstood
    3. Too watered down in real life even though art and writing is so strong.

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    8w9

    Likes:
    1. I'm grounded
    2. I'm independent
    3. I'm resilient
    4. I have a good poker face
    5. I'm practical
    6. I'm protective
    7. I have solid boundaries

    Dislike:
    1. I'm vulnerable and can't admit it
    2. I can't say what my needs are for fear of them being used against me
    3. I'm alone most of the time
    4. I work too much
    5. Too many power struggles in my life
    6. I'm stressed out
    7. Can't get close to people
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    1-6-2

    Like:
    1. Producing high quality
    2. Dependability
    3. Calmness
    4. Being well-liked
    5. Being sensible

    Dislike:
    1. Self-blame for things that should be inconsequential
    2. Inclination to be judgemental
    3. Expecting anything is a great risk
    4. Needing guidelines to function
    5. Irrational relational uncertainty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    good:

    1. practical and realistic
    2. can have a visionary streak
    3. intellectual
    4. can tackle difficult tasks without fear of failure
    5. good humored (usually)

    bad:

    1. confrontational in the professional world
    2. don't care much about image
    3. can take impulsive decisions
    4. may insult/confront important / powerful people without thinking about it
    5. not orderly
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    Good:
    1. Realistic and opportunistic
    2. Secretive with a good poker face when necesarry
    3. Know how to leave a good impression and make people like me (but only when I want to and for those people who count)
    4. When things go wrong, can easily leave things behind me and start again - can detach from most people, situations and past failures easily (the only exceptions are my SO and parents)
    5. Self-sufficient and non-whiny: aware that I can only count on myself.
    6. Mostly positive attitude, believing that future is full of opportunities
    7. Very romantic, attached and idealistic in romantic relationships, warm dependable friend when it's a two-way street

    Bad:
    1. Often being ashamed of my close ones and how they reflect on me. Sense of shame when I'm seen in public with an embarrassing person.
    2. Innate sense of superiority
    3. Too concerned about looks, desirability, money, status
    4. Low impulse control
    5. Lying to appear better and more interesting
    6. Sometimes feeling empty like life has no meaning beyond superficial pursuits (cynical and nihilistic when feeling down)
    7. Can cut corners at work or redirect work to others if I feel a task is beneath me or too mundane. As long as it appears I'm very busy at all times and the results are good, I'm not killing myself for boring shit

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    Enneagram is bullshit. I prefer astrology because it entirely logical that the month I was born in defines everything about me and decides my fate.
    Important to note! People who share "indentical" socionics TIMs won't necessarily appear to be very similar, since they have have different backgrounds, experiences, capabilities, genetics, as well as different types in other typological systems (enneagram, instinctual variants, etc.) all of which also have a sway on compatibility and identification. Thus, Socionics type "identicals" won't necessarily be identical i.e. highly similar to each other, and not all people of "dual" types will seem interesting, attractive and appealing to each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    1. Often being ashamed of my close ones and how they reflect on me. Sense of shame when I'm seen in public with an embarrassing person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    I only dislike how intense and immediate so many things feel to me, like, chill down a bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post

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    Quote Originally Posted by darya View Post
    I feel the exact same, and it extends to my own behavior as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nate Chur View Post
    Enneagram is bullshit. I prefer astrology because it entirely logical that the month I was born in defines everything about me and decides my fate.


    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung

     



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    Quote Originally Posted by Director Abbie View Post
    3. Expecting anything is a great risk
    I thought perhaps I should clarify this. It's not "expecting that anything is a great risk," but "that expecting anything is a great risk." The anything is not the risk; the expecting is the risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Likes
    -feeling a sense of wonder in living
    -able to get through difficulty
    -self-guided
    -uproot myself for dreams (and fantasies)
    -the high highs and low lows

    Dislikes
    -moodiness
    -often unable to connect to life, or joyful events, in the moment (biggest regret)
    -time wasted in fantasy
    -neediness / dependence
    -emotional manipulation

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    like:

    - when I'm on, I'm on the ball and rolling with force
    - spiritual...
    - when I touch people or cuddle with them, they relax and fall asleep (people have come over just to "take a nap" or something)
    - even spending time with me and we are doing stuff people fall asleep because they feel relaxed LOL
    - I'm unintentionally funny

    dislike:

    - I'm supposed to be good with 3's and 6's but I feel the most comfortable around 7, my closest people have been 7, so either I'm mistyped or it is just a personal preference that doesn't go by the book.
    - when I'm off, I'm really *off*.
    - I can never cry to relieve stress like a healthy person, I just can't cry it takes so much to cry and when I do cry shit hit the fan so bad I'm paralyzed.
    - I withdraw probably more than a 5 unless I have one close connection that I feel keeps me invigorated to keep coming out of my cave.
    - Edit (changes this one): When I'm furious I have odd strength. Like, flipping a table would be like flipping a table and it goes flyyyyyying~unintentionally. It makes me think I should take up spear fighting.
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    8w9, with a heavy 9 wing. Unsure about my tritype but I might be 8-2-5, The Strategist (Triple Rejection).

    Some of these things might just be particular to me, honestly...


    Like:
    1) The iron fist in a velvet glove thing is badass. c;
    2) Understanding how to be patient and persevering and push through with goals to the end.
    3) Agreed with @Pole Ninja 's point on having a good poker face, which prevents wrinkles too .
    4) Highly independent and pretty capable.
    5) People underestimate me and my depths since I'm not showy, which I can use to my advantage.


    Dislike:
    1) I am easily manipulated emotionally using anything cute, vulnerable, or fuzzy; essentially being an incredibly emotionally vulnerable person who externally appears as if they can take receiving harshness from others.
    2) More slow and lazy than 8w7 so getting fat easily.
    3) Things build up inside.
    4) Harder to relate to other women sometimes with this typing.
    5) Being accused of being cold, distant, and uncaring when I feel like I'm the exact opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niffer View Post
    8w9, with a heavy 9 wing. Unsure about my tritype but I might be 8-2-5, The Strategist (Triple Rejection).

    Some of these things might just be particular to me, honestly...


    Like:
    1) The iron fist in a velvet glove thing is badass. c;
    2) Understanding how to be patient and persevering and push through with goals to the end.
    3) Agreed with @Pole Ninja 's point on having a good poker face, which prevents wrinkles too .
    4) Highly independent and pretty capable.
    5) People underestimate me and my depths since I'm not showy, which I can use to my advantage.


    Dislike:
    1) I am easily manipulated emotionally using anything cute, vulnerable, or fuzzy; essentially being an incredibly emotionally vulnerable person who externally appears as if they can take receiving harshness from others.
    2) More slow and lazy than 8w7 so getting fat easily.
    3) Things build up inside.
    4) Harder to relate to other women sometimes with this typing.
    5) Being accused of being cold, distant, and uncaring when I feel like I'm the exact opposite.
    I agree with pretty much all of this. The getting fat thing is a bitch.
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    Lack of a soul.

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    9w1, 5 has decent influence too i think (and being LII ofc)

    LIKE
    1.Listener (openess to other idiosyncrasies, not showing judgement)
    2.Calm, quiet
    3.Mediator
    4.Optimistic (at least outwardly)
    5.Go with the flow, socially adaptable

    DISLIKE
    1.Laziness/passivity
    2.Repressed emotions (particularly anger)
    3.Being perceived by others as distant/cold, tendency to be avoidant
    4.Self-doubt
    5.Difficulty to stand for myself, to put boundaries

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    Likes about 9w1:

    Being positive outlook, and being able to see the good in many situations and people.

    How easygoing healthy 9s can be, and I generally like other 9s.

    Good listeners

    Easygoing Nature

    Dislike:

    There is a whole laundry list of things I dislike... I typed as 4w5 at first, then went with 5w4 for the longest time and was in denial of being a 9.

    The notion that 9s have a bliindspot to self.

    There are people who find high agreeableness, and finding points of agreement to be the most annoying possible trait in a person. This is a common sentiment I have come across in people. It's our way of connecting with others, and conflict causes a lot of anxiety for 9s, so it's a defense mechanism. Calling us out for this is a very very vulnerable area.

    I have trouble expressing how I really feel, and part of it boils down to the above.

    Based on the 9 description, the type isn't very much associated with creativity, or intelligence like say 4 or 5 is, and 9 typings are thrown around very easily in the typology community.

    The assumption that high agreeableness equates to not having a mind of our own.

    The deadly sin being sloth.

    It's hard to find good descriptions of attachment triad types. Chestnut's descriptions are pretty good though.

    Being lost on solving conflicts, and leaving a lot unsettled.

    I get to the point of explosion, and not knowing who to trust when I keep things bottled up for too long. I have trouble knowing how to express negative emotions with a lot of people.

    Problems with inertia
    9w1-5w4-2w3 sp/so

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    These rabbits were in fact on a raft, as were assorted rats and owls. There may have even been a reindeer.
    On a raft. And a boy was sitting on the raft.
    The picture worried me, I must say. There was an otter swimming in front of the raft, and I used to lie awake worrying about this otter, having to pull the raft, with all these other wretched animals on it who shouldn't even be on a raft, and the otter had such a thin tail to pull it with I thought. It worried me.
    Then one day-- and remember I had been looking at this picture every night for years-- I suddenly noticed the raft had a sail. Never seen it before. The otter was fine, just swimming along.


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    4- depth, creativity, can be self-revealing in a way that can inspire others, not afraid to face the dark, self-reflective and gaining much insight, appreciation and moved by beauty, quest for self/knowing self

    self-absorbed, self-alienating, often focusing on the negative/too in touch with the dark side, chronic feelings of being misunderstood, deep pain and sensitivity, overly withdrawn, jealous nature, potentially issues with finding those to truly connect with, feeling ashamed, can also hide even positive aspects and talents and waste them, always waiting for when things feel right

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    Overly intellectually deep and scattered spastic clown who scares you shitless by talking nerdy to you.
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    ability to connect ideas/tools/resources and solve problems

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    ugh...lack of focus. you gotta do the dishes someday, nanashi!


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    E1 permanent mind tension
    when there is nothing wrong - soon you'll find something

    E9 are the opposite, which try adopt to anything. not to improve the environment
    to join minds with E9 seems would balanced me
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    ^actually the opposite of 9 is 8.

    Anyway what i like: enthusiasm, determined.

    Dislike: never being satisfied with what I have no matter what. Can walk over people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Dislike: never being satisfied with what I have no matter what.=
    is that limited to material things, or is it more like a general sense of "grass is greener"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ergot View Post
    is that limited to material things, or is it more like a general sense of "grass is greener"?
    A general sense
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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    A general sense
    If applied to companionships, a restlessness in that area could have in common polr

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    The contrast is just crass, man. You have people who nearly slaughter themselves here and then you have uwu my biggest weakness is that I'm basically a little angel.

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